felt
better casting abstain on several RFCs that’ve recently gone by than with the
vote I actually cast (though I stand by my votes in all cases regardless),
usually because of lack of strong knowledge of the subject matter.
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someone was actually using it.
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still worth something. If the requirement for that is that I
explain why I voted how I did on an RFC, I’m glad - even eager - to do so. If
the requirement for that is that I contribute at least one nontrivial
documentation edit or source code commit per month, or something similar, I
think the point has been missed.
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a choice as to which they find more readable.
?? is standard in both .NET and Apple’s Swift language - Apple added it to
Swift (including the chaining behavior) early during the beta cycle due to user
demand for exactly this kind of logic, and it’s been part of C# for a long time.
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> Greetings,
> Florian
I practically never participate in discussions, but I always read them before
voting. As you say, it's just common sense.
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9, gnu99, Clang C,
etc.) which -could- lessen the current unreadability of the code.)
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$hash). But it could just as well
> be a fancy, extensible OOP API.
>
> I think this would greatly improve the hashing situation for PHP.
>
> Thanks,
> Nikita
Strong +1 on this. I'd suggest writing an RFC.
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ymbols, you stand
a pretty good chance of crashing. Image unloading simply didn't exist
at all in any useful form before Leopard.)
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/* dylib.c - clang dylib.c -o dylib.dylib -dynamiclib */
static int var = 0;
extern int getVar(void);
extern void setVar(int value);
int
n.
Strong +1 from me as well. Deprecate, remove. Do NOT get Suhoshin
involved in this. It's not.
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there, it's possible there's a subtle issue (I haven't looked at the
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On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 04:23, Pierre Joye wrote:
> hi Justin,
>
> I'm totally for that, has been asked it for years.
>
> Let see what other nicer status we need as wel :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Justin Martin wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> With some frequency, I find bugs which
get in (or be backported/cherry-picked) if they had
important fixes, as long as we don't have another is_a() snafu.
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and can be fixed by adding it, but I have no idea what's special with
> new Fedora (i.e., I think some new gcc stuff, no idea what) or why our
> autoconf magic didn't do what it was supposed to do. Hope autoconf magicians
> can shed some light on this :)
This issue exists on Da
> repository does not make sense.
The original plan called for the SVN repo to be split up at some point
in the future, but DVCS gained traction and SVN went without any
attempts by anyone to put a proper workflow of any kind in place.
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lly
> PHP managed interface to a PHP repo?
I'm starting to think we should take a cue from Linus and just do as
we did with bugsweb, newsweb, and so forth: Build our own
(Hg/Git-compatible) DVCS from scratch!
(I'm joking... mostly.)
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thought that the Git mirror would be "good enough".
In my defense, at the time SVN looked a good bit better than it does
now. I really did think it'd last, LOL.
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I've just created a new RFC, https://wiki.php.net/rfc/linecontrol ,
regarding adding cpp(1)'s linemarkers to PHP. Discussion is invited.
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I've tested it on multiple architectures (i386, x86_64),
compilers (gcc 4.2, LLVM-GCC, Clang 2.9, Clang SVN), and systems
(Darwin, Ubuntu, BSD), and it appears to work cleanly on all of them.
The patch is against 5.4.
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Index: Z
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 09:12, Antony Dovgal wrote:
>>> Btw, am I the only one to whom the proposed syntax seems kinda
>>> hieroglyphic?
>> No. I don't see at all why we need this, just like I don't see why we
>> needed an alternative (short) syntax for arrays. This kind of syntax
>> additions tha
LIAS ZEND_MALIAS
#define PHP_ABSTRACT_ME ZEND_ABSTRACT_ME
#define PHP_ME_MAPPING ZEND_ME_MAPPING
+#define PHP_FE_END ZEND_FE_END
#define PHP_MODULE_STARTUP_N ZEND_MODULE_STARTUP_N
#define PHP_MODULE_SHUTDOWN_N ZEND_MODULE_SHUTDOWN_N
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oduced, of course).
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On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 18:54, Hannes Magnusson
wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 00:45, Pierre Joye wrote:
>> I would add:
>>
>> 2.1 fix the new ones
>>
>> That's what I try to do using a delta between two revisions. At some
>>
;s
a major undertaking to eliminate all the warnings, and it'll get ugly.
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On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 16:06, Richard Quadling wrote:
> On 23 July 2011 17:16, Antony Dovgal wrote:
>> Thanks Nuno, great job!
>>
>> On 07/23/2011 08:03 PM, Nuno Lopes wrote:
>>>
+1 to E_CORE.
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On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 06:28, Pierrick Charron wrote:
> I'm also ok with E_CORE.
>
> Pierrick
>
> On 21 July 2011 05:19, Pierre Joye wrote:
>> hi Pierrick!
>>
>> Thanks for the updated patch :)
>>
>> Now the only q
t; Yes, definitely "=>" vs. ":" in any case.
+1 to this.
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rme Blanco, Jonathan-Bond Caron
>
> Contra: Geoffrey Sneddon, Tomi Kaistila, David Zühlke
>
>
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to become fluent with them and their libraries, and there is a time
constraint. PHP has all of these issues, but 1) I know the language and how to
cope with the issues it does have, and 2) once those issues are coped with, it
works better than anything else I know well enough to use now.
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s.com/
- No Unicode.
If there is any direction for PHP 6, I'd like to see that direction be dealing
with problems like these. PHP has been used more and more as a general-purpose
language, when it wasn't designed to be. Addressing that would solve a lot of
core problems. And yes, it d
h the complexity of the
language. There are dozens of tiny little edge cases in PHP's parsing that
require bunches of extra parser rules. An example from above is the difference
between using "statement" and "inner-statement" for the two different forms of
"if". Because "statement" includes basic blocks and labels, the rule disallows
writing "if: { xyz; } endif;", since apparently Zend doesn't support arbitrary
basic blocks. All those cases wreak havoc on the grammar. In its present form,
it will never reduce down to something nearly as small as Python's.
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;>>
>>>> You know that you could write:
>>>> >>> #define PF private function
>>>> #define SCOPE_CLASS(x) class MyProject_ ## x
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> class UseMacro
>>>> {
>>>> PF preSave($object)
&g
e last statement:
> do you know about mtrack? it is a trac "clone" written in php by Wez
*Googles.*
*Reads.*
Well... dang. Go Wez!!
I like it :-). Thanks for the pointer! I'll have to look into that in more
detail soon, it could prove very useful. And it looks a good bit be
most common keywords in the language and can
> be perfectly done keeping the BC.
>
> P.S. Personally I will prohibit my developers to use the short syntax
> without the "function" keyword.
Agreed. -1 here also.
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und the community with the full knowledge necessary to
undertake the migration with minimum fuss; it's been pointed out that the kind
of massive manual balancing I had to do for CVS->SVN would be completely absent.
I just wish I didn't have to also admit that Trac is a really great project
management system. Unless things have changed drastically since I was last
active, PHP still needs one. ^^;
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difficult - in fact one of the
open-source scripts already out there for the purpose would seem appropos, it
just hasn't been done. They seem to be standard fare in FOSS projects, so I'm
-1 for removing the functionality, but +1 for removing the useless archives
from all active branches.
I wish I could volunteer to do the port, but I have too much on my plate right
now :(
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On Apr 29, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Johannes Schlüter [mailto:johan...@schlueters.de]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 9:40 AM
>>>> To: Pierre Joye
>>>> Cc: Gwynne
gt; implementation on the track again but it didn't get much response. And
>> I think we should decide on a version number and see if we can get an
>> Alpha release out by Q4 this year if possible, since the current
>> releases of new development branches have been taking for
comes to
> mind. I love the way these two guys handle things, and it feels like a nice
> balance.
>
> And while Rasmus may [or may not] deny his BDFL status, I'd love to see it in
> high gear especially now that he's funemployed.
+1
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million names.
I'd actually like to bring up the question of going to DVCS for PHP. I know I
was a vocal advocate against it before, but I've learned a bit since then.
Anyone care to discuss?
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>>> overload/underload is not the best word for this functionality. Also, I'm
>>> not sure if there are other class-based OO languages that allow this kind
>> of
>>> behavior... Prototypal languages perhaps, as is the case with javascript
>> and
>>> the Obj.prototype which (combined with anonymous functions) allows you to
>>> extend the "base" functionality of other objects that "extend" it.
>>
>> Even though it might look appealing from a framework user perspective,
>> it looks fishy from a language design perspective. It sounds like
>> you're trying to fix a framework design lack by a language trick.
>>
>> For the fishy part: what happens to the old class? what about static
>> method calls on that old class? What if two classes overwrites the
>> same class? Basically it would mean there is no way to know at compile
>> time which class new Foo; is supposed to instantiate.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you for your comments and thoughts!
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Trahey
>>>
>>> Web Applications Developer
>>>
>>> Database Administrator
>>>
>>> CSISD [Technology]
>>>
>>>
>>> footnote: I sent this message from a different address and it did not
>> show
>>> up. I tested sending to internals-h...@lists.php.net and did not get a
>>> response -so I assume there is an outgoing issue on my other server's
>> side.
>>> Forgive me if this message shows up again.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Etienne Kneuss
>> http://www.colder.ch
>>
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for the run-tests.php but
>> IIRC, someone was rewriting it already?
> Can we use this svn link/external somehow? Having one module for the
> tests but you get them when checking out a php-src branch. Gwynne can
> certainly answer this question :)
Yes, this is quite possible. I
+1
It also supports the "allocation is not initialization" (or anti-RAII) pattern
found in languages like Objective-C:
Objective-C:
String *s = [[String alloc] initWithFormat:@"I'm a little teapot, %@ and %@",
@"short", @"stout"];
PHP:
$s = (new String)-
.php.net/viewvc?view=revision&revision=291414
If I remember right, removing the diverts makes the ./configure --help output
no longer pretty. And 2.6x and 2.13 are both broken in their own lists of ways.
Though I thought the use of high-numbered diversions was actually a supported
thing -
7;t know this
for a fact firsthand.) Personally, I'd rather see PHP go to CMake. CMake does
have its own host of problems, but they could be dealt with. And yes, I would
volunteer to revive the CMake effort.
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n tested and run through valgrind and
the Clang analyzer. Any reason I shouldn't commit it? I tried to get it into
5.3.0 but the consensus at the time was "let's get this out the door already"
:).
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rying to get the box upgraded, but I never got that word, so
we're still http:// only.
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Begin forwarded message:
From: "Cristian Rodríguez"
Date: August 10, 2009 12:14:08 PM EDT
To: gwy...@php.net
Subject: [PATCH] php bugtracker should set Precendence: bulk header
php bug tra
You can do an SVN export to get the code without the .svn files.
Irrelevant. SVN code, with or without the .svn metadata, is considered
unstable and is almost always unacceptable in a production environment.
+1 for a 5.3.1 release ASAP.
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ng it doesn't match, there's no reasonable way to determine
*why*.
Also, more to the point, Oniguruma hasn't been updated in two years
and counting, which is enough to count it as unmaintained. PCRE is
still seeing releases on a regular basis.
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perfectly reasonable, but I don't think it belongs in core.
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I've been following so far.
That document is outdated. It's now (strongly) preferred that you use
one of the various methods for multi-branch commits available in SVN,
using merge or a sparse checkout.
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Have a nice day,
Kenan Sulayman
If you have something to say about a bug, please post it as a comment
on the bug report itself. You can do so using the interface at <http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=42194&edit=3
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other (admittedly finctional so
far) processing system run on the file.
As I said, it was just for the heck of it :). I know no one's likely
to find it interesting.
I did toy with the idea of something that was actually compliant, but:
Gwynne Raskind wrote:
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dlval->value.str.len = yyleng;
+ zendlval->type = IS_STRING;
+ BEGIN(ST_IN_SCRIPTING);
+ return T_OPEN_TAG_WITH_ECHO;
+}
+
+
"value.str.val = yytext; /* no copying - intentional */
zendlval->value.str.len = yyleng;
[1] Extensible Markup Language (XML) 1.0
On Jul 23, 2009, at 9:21 PM, Gwynne Raskind wrote:
Today, I just release a new version of the Log package, and I
attempted to tag this release in the same way. Unfortunately, I ran
into this error:
$ svn copy \
http://svn.php.net/repository/pear/packages/Log/trunk \
http://svn.php.net
whether to use SVN or Git for PHP. We decided on SVN. We also
have a Git mirror. In short, you're telling us what we already went
over sixteen dozen times and dealt with.
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On 07/20/2009 01:38 PM, Arnold Daniels wrote:
Hi,
Can I suggest having a l
#x27;m personally very much in favor of a rename to "php-commits" etc.
From commit-email.php (again), the list of lists that could be renamed:
php-gtk-...@lists.php.net
zend-engine-...@lists.php.net
doc-...@lists.php.net
pear-...@lists.php.net
pecl-...@lists.php.net
gd-...@lists.php
'proc->argv = (bypass_shell ? child_argv : NULL);' can be
simplified to 'proc->argv = child_argv;' since child_argv is already
initialized to NULL
I think that's it :) It's only minor things, I guess.
As soon as you fix these things, please go ahead and commi
even lists; use svn-
migration@ for this kind of question.
To answer the question, anonsvn.php has already been commited to
phpweb and should show up as soon as we get rsync back in service.
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Any other issues, please bring them to my attention. Preferably via
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svn repo directly, afaik Gwynne is on it.
I've now made five or six attempts to fix this, all of which obviously
missed at least some affected files. Everyone who runs accross a file
with this problem, please execute:
svn propdel svn:mime-type
Before you commit if possible, or afterwar
are allowed. We remain in commit freeze.
Everyone who has issues, please put them on svn-
migrat...@lists.php.net. I'll be around all weekend, and all of us
will respond to issues as quickly as we can.
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is out to avoid having yet
another "feature-filled" 5.x release.
So, once again, completely against this going into 5.3.
Same here. +1 for HEAD, -1 for 5.3.
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longer be turned off. However, the SAPI selection
process still procedes as it did before.
I'll see what we can do about clarifying the documentation. Sorry for
the confusion :).
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On Jul 3, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
Hi. I'm the maintainer of PHP in MacPorts
My
understanding of the lexer is insufficient to understand why this
particular set of parenthesis makes any difference at all, but there
you have it.
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gs to enable FastCGI, and so forth. In 5.3 they were unified
completely: you can't have one without the other anymore. Why would
you need to?
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"Michael Shadle" wrote in message news:bd9320b3090707q4fc2c2c3hbffbf289679e6...@mail.gmail.com
...
I think it would be
g
can present a last line of defense against unexpected input for
numeric fields, which are typically abused to do SQL injection.
[snip]
My hope is that the latest changes will allow this to become a
standard part of PHP.
+1 (+1000, actually :)
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the code, Netware doesn't have a shell in the first place.
I'm proposing the inclusion of this patch in HEAD (which I'll port it
to if I get a thumbs-up here), and possibly 5.3.2. Criticism and angry
flames welcome. Constructive critcism and good-natured comments will
be ignor
fter 5.3's release
won't kill anyway. But keep in mind that the SVN freeze will freeze
PEAR and PECL and GTK and... well, everyone. Once CVS write access is
shut off, it'll never be turned back on (unless there's a problem with
SVN). Whereas this freeze is just on PH
nvestigate switching to Git
sometime in the future, but that time is not now. Everyone, please see
<http://news.php.net/php.internals/44411> for more info on what you
can do to help with the move and what you'll need to do to be ready
for it.
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g the session cookie might
even be considered a "good" feature by some.
Including me! ;)
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ch will be changed to 1.
5) SVN write access will be enabled.
6) ???
7) Profit
P.S. If someone could crosspost this to pear-dev@, I'd be quite
grateful; I can't seem to get subscribed to it.
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seful sense), but the opcodes.html file is all there. With any
luck, someone else will come along and clean it up a bit, and/or
expand on it.
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/str_pad_variation5.phpt (SIGBUS on NULL
pointer)
tests/output/ob_011.mem (SIGSEGV on unmapped non-NULL pointer)
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security risk.
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esn't change anything either
except removing some dead code and removing one configure check. Per
Pierre's request, I'm sending it here for review :)
Looks good for me, apply to HEAD and document somewhere that we need
10.2 as the minimum version.
Correction: 10.3 as the minimum :).
On Jun 18, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Gwynne Raskind wrote:
Here is a nice simple patch for #48575 which rips out the mach-o/
dyld.h functionality in Zend (as suggested by the original reporter
and the Apple comment). According to my testing this not only
doesn't break anything, but actually do
some dead code and removing one configure check. Per Pierre's
request, I'm sending it here for review :)
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t thing we
need is extra noise without any means of categorizing.
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(<http://wiki.php.net/svnmigration>) and want to help, I beg you
on my knees to subscribe (send a mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>) and let us know what you want to do :). It's past time for PHP to
make this step a just a little bit further into the future and I hope
we can work t
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to get back to it this weekend.
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On Jul 19, 2008, at 6:55 AM, Lars Strojny wrote:
Hi everbody,
regarding my mail from yesterday, I've also created an RFC for the new
error level.
http://wiki.php.net/rfc/e-user-deprecated-warning
cu, Lars
A large +1 from me too.
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email as a sort of damage control :)
A loud +1 to this from me. Can we get an RFC into the Wiki on this?
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functions that were created inside
of the class have been free'ed?
I'm not up to date on the operation of the current patches to
implement closures, but typically this is how it'd work, retaining
references to what's needed as long as the closures exist.
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the stack is an issue, though; the Lua interpreter's idea of "scope"
is rather different from PHPs, and it's not nearly the same penalty
there.
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ous what others think.
Of course, that fragment does a very poor job of showing off the
extreme flexibility of Lua with regards to functions and scoping, but
hopefully it illustrates the concept.
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On Apr 24, 2008, at 3:19 AM, Antony Dovgal wrote:
On 08.03.2008 02:20, Gwynne Raskind wrote:
gwynne Fri Mar 7 23:20:32 2008 UTC
Modified files: (Branch: PHP_5_3)
/php-src/ext/session mod_user.c mod_user.h php_session.h
session.c Log:
MFH: fix bug #32330
On Apr 15, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Alexey Zakhlestin wrote:
bumping up
this one is still not applied in 5.3
On 3/31/08, Alexey Zakhlestin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There is a patch by gwynne, which introduces platform-specific hack
for darwin/macos-x.
http://cvs.php.net/viewvc.cgi/p
ies while being at it (thinking of libpng first, or openssl).
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ly already.
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k, maybe i made a mistake, that's what i compared:
Upon investigation I've discovered the problem to be this: When the
Darwin hack takes effect, the overwrite of CFLAGS removes the default -
O2, thus the slowdown. I'll commit a fix shortly, with apologies for
the oversight.
g should have no effect on production performance.
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isfying expectations rocks!
marcus
As the original proposer of nowdocs, I also give it a +1 for
consistency!
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Saturday, March 22, 2008, 9:17:27 PM, you wrote:
Hi,
as we introduce NOWDOC in 5.3
endless, endless configuration options. That's what we'd
end up with, and it's just not worth it.
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On Mar 20, 2008, at 6:28 AM, Richard Quadling wrote:
With regard to the CMake SoC propo
ght? :D
If automake and autoconf can do it, then as a rule CMake can do it
better.
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l see no gain :)
Perhaps it's time to make a "compatibility" extension with all those
ifdefs everywhere and engine hooks.
I'll +1 that. I'll even volunteer to maintain it, if someone who knows
the engine better can give me a framework to start from.
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HP_5_2.diff>
<http://www.wanderingknights.org/maryoku/bug32330-PHP_5_3.diff>
<http://www.wanderingknights.org/maryoku/bug32330-HEAD.diff>
Hope it's useful!
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On Jan 22, 2008, at 5:29 AM, Pierre wrote:
On Jan 21, 2008 3:38 PM, Antony Dovgal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
6 reasons why we must to get rid of The Switch ASAP
I was +1 months ago, I'm still +1 now :)
I'll throw in my +1 too. That's right, I'm still alive! :)
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