Re: [PHP-DEV] Asymmetric visibility is a BC break

2024-10-23 Thread Larry Garfield
On Wed, Oct 23, 2024, at 11:04 AM, ericm...@php.net wrote: > On 10/22/24 22:39, Calvin Buckley wrote: >> After discussing it and thinking about it for a few days, I agree it's >> not a BC break. Existing code should be fine, and larger frameworks >> that tend to rely on reflection trickery and suc

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discuss] Impact of E.O 14071 on PHP

2024-10-23 Thread Krinkle
On Thu, 24 Oct 2024, at 01:25, fennic log wrote: > It was recently brought to my attention that the USA has passed an Executive > Order which prohibits Russian citizens from contributing to software used in > the USA. […] > > From what I have been reading + excerpts from linux group, PHP has to

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discuss] Impact of E.O 14071 on PHP

2024-10-23 Thread Bilge
The notion that just because Putin engages in war, his countrymen cannot contribute to FOSS is totally absurd. Linus and the US can sanction whomsoever they wish but that has no bearing on what PHP does or must do. Cheers, Bilge On Thu, 24 Oct 2024, 01:28 fennic log, wrote: > It was recently br

[PHP-DEV] [Discuss] Impact of E.O 14071 on PHP

2024-10-23 Thread fennic log
It was recently brought to my attention that the USA has passed an Executive Order which prohibits Russian citizens from contributing to software used in the USA. Reference material; https://ofac.treasury.gov/media/932951/download?inline https://ofac.treasury.gov/faqs/1187 The Linux Kernel has re

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Policy on 3rd party code

2024-10-23 Thread fennic log
On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 at 19:37, Larry Garfield wrote: > Since Jim's RFC proposal was criticized for being too vague, I hereby > offer a somewhat more prescriptive policy proposal on using 3rd party > code. (With JIm's blessing.) It's still more heuristics than rules, but I > think that's the right

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Discussion] Persistent CurlShareHandle objects

2024-10-23 Thread Rob Landers
On Wed, Oct 23, 2024, at 19:10, Eric Norris wrote: > Hello again, > > It has been two weeks, and unless there are any further comments I > plan on converting the above question into a voteable sub-question and > opening the RFC for votes tomorrow, Thursday October 24th. > > Thanks! > Hello,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Asymmetric visibility is a BC break

2024-10-23 Thread ericmann
On 10/22/24 22:39, Calvin Buckley wrote: After discussing it and thinking about it for a few days, I agree it's not a BC break. Existing code should be fine, and larger frameworks that tend to rely on reflection trickery and such also tend to need updates for newer PHP. The expectations don't rea

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Discussion] Persistent CurlShareHandle objects

2024-10-23 Thread Rob Landers
On Wed, Oct 23, 2024, at 21:20, Eric Norris wrote: > Apologies Rob, I don't seem to be receiving individual emails from the > mailing list, so I'll have to respond to my own email here. I've > changed my subscription to receive all emails so hopefully I'll be > able to respond directly to future

[PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Discussion] Persistent CurlShareHandle objects

2024-10-23 Thread Eric Norris
Apologies Rob, I don't seem to be receiving individual emails from the mailing list, so I'll have to respond to my own email here. I've changed my subscription to receive all emails so hopefully I'll be able to respond directly to future emails. > It might be a good idea to get a “strong opinion”

[PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Discussion] Persistent CurlShareHandle objects

2024-10-23 Thread Eric Norris
Hello again, It has been two weeks, and unless there are any further comments I plan on converting the above question into a voteable sub-question and opening the RFC for votes tomorrow, Thursday October 24th. Thanks!

[PHP-DEV] Interest in a binary parameter type in PDO?

2024-10-23 Thread Calvin Buckley
Hi internals, I've been debugging some recent issues users have had, as well as discussing some related ones. I've come to the conclusion there's a lot issues with applications trying to access binary data via PDO drivers. For example - Binary data when quoting in SQL Server can easily get mangl

[PHP-DEV] RFC: Support Read-Only opcache.file_cache for use with Docker

2024-10-23 Thread Samuel Melrose
Hello, Following on from a chat with some very helpful contributors on GitHub (https://github.com/php/php-src/issues/16484), I'd like to request feedback on a change and potentially put it forward as an RFC please. Change Description: The `opcache.file_cache` folder must currently be writable, b