06.09.2016 9:13 PM "Fleshgrinder" napisał(a):
>
> I understand the concerns of all of you very well and it's nice to see a
> discussion around this topic. Fun fact, we are not the only ones with
> these issues: https://github.com/dotnet/roslyn/issues/159
>
> On 9/6/2016 6:01 PM, Larry Garfield wro
Hi!
> And then when the next people who want to build an alternative engine
> come along, they will include this constant, to make their engine as
> 'compatible' as possible with the current PHP engine.
Yes, same things that happened to user-agent string in browsers may
start happening here. But
Hi Lester,
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Lester Caine wrote:
> On 06/09/16 03:19, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
>> Hi Lester,
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Lester Caine wrote:
>>> A filter of "is this string corrupted with an injection attempt" seems
>>> rather more difficult to define than "ema
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Dan Ackroyd wrote:
> On 6 September 2016 at 22:39, Davey Shafik wrote:
> >
> >
> > The key to this is that it's part of the spec. If you actually want to
> > follow the spec, you have to implement it this way. If you don't, then
> > you're a bad person. :P
>
>
> P
On 6 September 2016 at 22:39, Davey Shafik wrote:
>
>
> The key to this is that it's part of the spec. If you actually want to
> follow the spec, you have to implement it this way. If you don't, then
> you're a bad person. :P
Perhaps you can make the RFC text be clearer then. e.g. to this bit:
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Dan Ackroyd wrote:
> On 5 September 2016 at 19:43, Davey Shafik wrote:
> >
> > Instead, it would be better to check PHP_ENGINE ===
> > 'hhvm' && PHP_ENGINE_VERSION_ID <= 30813
>
> And then when the next people who want to build an alternative engine
> come along,
On 5 September 2016 at 19:43, Davey Shafik wrote:
>
> Instead, it would be better to check PHP_ENGINE ===
> 'hhvm' && PHP_ENGINE_VERSION_ID <= 30813
And then when the next people who want to build an alternative engine
come along, they will include this constant, to make their engine as
'compatib
I understand the concerns of all of you very well and it's nice to see a
discussion around this topic. Fun fact, we are not the only ones with
these issues: https://github.com/dotnet/roslyn/issues/159
On 9/6/2016 6:01 PM, Larry Garfield wrote:
> How big of a need is it to allow returning $this ins
@Larry,
Fact that $this in transformer method represents clone and the original
object was my biggest concern, but again if you look at t from a point of
view where that method describes transformation it doesn't look that bad.
My initial idea was to introduce copy() method which would take as a fi
On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Davey Shafik wrote:
> Hi internals,
>
> I'd like to introduce a new RFC to deprecate pear/pecl (in 7.2, and remove
> in 8.0), as well as add composer/pickle (optional in 7.2, default in 7.3+)
> in their place.
Can pickle package the extension? That's basically th
On Sep 6, 2016 6:29 PM, "Ferenc Kovacs" wrote:
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> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Rowan Collins
> wrote:
>
> > On 06/09/2016 11:18, Derick Rethans wrote:
> >
> >> One of PHPs biggest strengths is the availability of an extension for
> >> nearly everything. There are *1000s* out there. Some made
On 09/05/2016 11:37 AM, Fleshgrinder wrote:
On 9/5/2016 10:26 AM, Michał Brzuchalski wrote:
I had a talk at Room11 and we discussed idea of `mutator` keyword.
There were some concerns using `mutator` as a keyword - that's because
immutable object is not being muted and also magically appeared `
>
> > One note I missed: it probably goes without saying that I'd like write
> > access to ext/pdo_dblib, but write access to ext/pdo would also help for
> > work on common unit tests and functionality.
>
> +1, Adam have done great work at trying to keep pdo_dblib alive, and I
> think Anatol (cc'ed
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On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Rowan Collins
wrote:
> On 06/09/2016 11:18, Derick Rethans wrote:
>
>> One of PHPs biggest strengths is the availability of an extension for
>> nearly everything. There are *1000s* out there. Some made by single
>> people, some by small groups of people, or some b
Hi Tony,
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Tony Marston wrote:
> "Niklas Keller" wrote in message
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>
>>
>> Tony Marston schrieb am So., 4. Sep. 2016,
>> 10:38:
>>
>>> "Rowan Collins" wrote in message
>>> news:b3bd7acf-a5
On 06/09/2016 11:18, Derick Rethans wrote:
One of PHPs biggest strengths is the availability of an extension for
nearly everything. There are *1000s* out there. Some made by single
people, some by small groups of people, or some by large companies. You
can't expect *all* of these extensions to be
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
> Am 05.09.2016 um 12:13 schrieb Derick Rethans:
> > You can't really ship PHP without a way to install extensions though!
>
> Why not?
>
> IMHO, PHP should not be shipped with any tool for installing PHP
> components (PEAR Installer, Composer, ...)
On Mon, 5 Sep 2016, Davey Shafik wrote:
> Nobody is saying to do anything except unbundle the command line tools.
And I would say that we should see whether the new tools work
perfectly fine first before even considering that.
cheers,
Derick
--
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>
>
>> Composer doesn't do that.
>>
>
> Then how come I've seen several complaints in various forums about
> composer updating libraries in the background and screwing things up.
> That proves nothing except that your knowledge is very limited.
indeed it does.
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Ferenc Kovács
@Tyr43l - ht
Hi,
On 09/06/2016 09:14 AM, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
Am 05.09.2016 um 12:13 schrieb Derick Rethans:
You can't really ship PHP without a way to install extensions though!
Why not?
IMHO, PHP should not be shipped with any tool for installing PHP
components (PEAR Installer, Composer, ...) or e
On 6 September 2016 08:17:20 BST, Tony Marston wrote:
>>I do NOT want the replacement PEAR library to update itself in the
>>> background.
>>
>>Composer doesn't do that.
>
>Then how come I've seen several complaints in various forums about
>composer
>updating libraries in the background and screw
On 06/09/16 03:19, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
> Hi Lester,
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Lester Caine wrote:
>> A filter of "is this string corrupted with an injection attempt" seems
>> rather more difficult to define than "email"? And applying the first in
>> general on every string when there ar
On 6 September 2016 08:06:09 BST, Tony Marston wrote:
>The package name is PEAR_Frontend_Web. It is documented at
>http://pear.php.net/reference/PEAR_Frontend_Web-latest/
Thanks, if that's bundled with PHP (i.e. you don't need to run "pear install
PEAR_Frontend_Web" to find it) then that should
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>On 02/09/2016 20:32, Davey Shafik wrote:
>
Am 05.09.2016 um 12:13 schrieb Derick Rethans:
> You can't really ship PHP without a way to install extensions though!
Why not?
IMHO, PHP should not be shipped with any tool for installing PHP
components (PEAR Installer, Composer, ...) or extensions (PECL Installer,
...).
In my experience, peop
Hi!
> Just because SOME people still like using a command line interface does
> not mean that they can force everyone else to use it. If any piece of
Nobody is forcing you to use anything.
> 21st century does not come with a web/GUI interface it just shows that
> the author is still living in th
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On 04/09/2016 09:38, Tony Marston wrote:
A1) A command-line package management tool for installing and updating
packages of PHP code over the Internet.
Incorrect. There is a web interface which I use EXCL
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