[PHP-DEV] The battle between users and developers

2008-06-14 Thread Lester Caine
From Pierre Playing off base. What I proposed you is to help us to get your software continue to run smoothly with PHP, while keeping the windows support. In the end you may even get a faster version on windows, but I suppose you don't care about that (poor customers ;) . This I think is part

Re: [PHP-DEV] New flame

2008-06-14 Thread Kevin Waterson
>> PHP 5.3 appears (to me at least) ready for release, give or take a > Will PHP 5.3 be released with fileinfo or will be still me made to use hacks to detirmine mime types? Kevin -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Richard Quadling
2008/6/14 Rasmus Lerdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Pierre Joye wrote: > >> Hi Lukas, >> >> On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> These extension seem widely used enough that we have to make it an effort >>> to >>> support them. >>> >> >> If it is so w

Re: [PHP-DEV] New flame

2008-06-14 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 01.06.2008, at 07:11, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: Hi! PHP 5.3 appears (to me at least) ready for release, give or take a bit of ironing. I was under impression parser multibyte support wasn't yet fixed. Was it? Maybe we should decide if this a show stopper or not. From my understa

Re: [PHP-DEV] documentation on php.net

2008-06-14 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 23:16, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > one of the classes documented on php.net, HttpRequestPool, is not entirely > documented correctly. > > http://www.php.net/manual/en/class.httprequestpool.php Fixed, thanks for the heads up. > > as you can see, it is document

[PHP-DEV] documentation on php.net

2008-06-14 Thread Nathan Nobbe
one of the classes documented on php.net, HttpRequestPool, is not entirely documented correctly. http://www.php.net/manual/en/class.httprequestpool.php as you can see, it is documented as if the class were HttpMessage. who is the correct person / list / w/e to contact w/ such information, so tha

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 14.06.2008, at 22:32, Lester Caine wrote: Pierre Joye wrote: What I'm asking you is to help me to actually have a controllable and testable firebird drivers in PHP. I will do my best to help you to get things fixed and to provide the best windows binaries. However, one thing is sure, I c

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Pierre Joye
hi Lester, On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Lester Caine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> What I'm asking you is to help me to actually have a controllable and >> testable firebird drivers in PHP. I will do my best to help you to get >> things fixed and to provide the best windows binaries. However

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Lester Caine
Pierre Joye wrote: What I'm asking you is to help me to actually have a controllable and testable firebird drivers in PHP. I will do my best to help you to get things fixed and to provide the best windows binaries. However, one thing is sure, I can't do it alone. For two reasons, I'm not a firebi

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Steph Fox
As far as I'm aware there's nothing in PHP 6 that can't be supported from PHP 5.2.1 up, but there's plenty in PHP 5.3 that a lot of developers will like. AND SHOULD BE BEING DEVELOPED IN PHP6 SO WE CAN AT LEAST GET A CLEAN UNICODE STABLE SYSTEM AVAILABLE TODAY !! Please don't shout, th

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Lars Strojny
Hi Lester, Am Samstag, den 14.06.2008, 21:13 +0100 schrieb Lester Caine: [...] > AND SHOULD BE BEING DEVELOPED IN PHP6 SO WE CAN AT LEAST GET A CLEAN UNICODE > STABLE SYSTEM AVAILABLE TODAY !! Please, don't yell. KTHXBYE cu, Lars signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Lester Caine
Steph Fox wrote: As far as I'm aware there's nothing in PHP 6 that can't be supported from PHP 5.2.1 up, but there's plenty in PHP 5.3 that a lot of developers will like. AND SHOULD BE BEING DEVELOPED IN PHP6 SO WE CAN AT LEAST GET A CLEAN UNICODE STABLE SYSTEM AVAILABLE TODAY !! -- Les

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Steph Fox
Lester, hi, I even installed a development build of PHP6 some time ago, but if there is going to be TWO versions of PHP6 then to be honest I am not interested. There haven't been for the last couple of weeks. We're just waiting for Scott to finish with the Engine work so that we can commit t

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Lester Caine
Pierre Joye wrote: Hi Lester, On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Lester Caine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Apart from the problems created by changes made to the interbase driver in the 5.1 and early 5.2 cycle ( the 64 bit version of which STILL has not been repaired :( ) the driver still works fi

Re: [PHP-DEV] deprecation status of $str{42} versus $str[42]

2008-06-14 Thread Chris Stockton
Hello, On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > $str{} was considered a best practice for a while so as you can see via > Google Code Search it's been used quite a bit. > I take the blame for introducing it with the intention to not only > create a better

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Lester, On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Lester Caine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Apart from the problems created by changes made to the interbase driver in > the 5.1 and early 5.2 cycle ( the 64 bit version of which STILL has not been > repaired :( ) the driver still works fine with modern b

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Pierre Joye
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pierre Joye wrote: >> >> Hi Lukas, >> >> On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> These extension seem widely used enough that we have to make it an effort >>> to >>> support

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Lester Caine
Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: - interbase - fbsql - sybase and sybase_ct I think moving fbsql is quite reasonable. However interbase and sybase I do not agree with. Who will maintain them? Who can we ask when there is issues (besides the obvious ones)? These extension seem widely used enough t

Re: [PHP-DEV] phar development update

2008-06-14 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Gregory, Saturday, June 14, 2008, 12:16:58 AM, you wrote: > Hi all, > A quick note on significant improvements to phar committed recently: > * tar-based archives now fully support metadata and signatures, > bringing them in line with more of the features of phar-based phar archives. > *

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
Hi Pierre, Like I said on IRC, if the ext end up being broken, but remain in core they can get fixed and made available easily to all users. If we move them, then this is no longer possible. We can revist this topic for PHP6, but I do not think we should start dropping these extension in

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Pierre Joye wrote: Hi Lukas, On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: These extension seem widely used enough that we have to make it an effort to support them. If it is so widely used, why noone complains about this removal? Why there is nobody taking ca

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Lukas, On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > These extension seem widely used enough that we have to make it an effort to > support them. If it is so widely used, why noone complains about this removal? Why there is nobody taking care of the bugs or s

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 14.06.2008, at 16:24, Pierre Joye wrote: On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 12.06.2008, at 16:31, Pierre Joye wrote: - interbase - fbsql - sybase and sybase_ct I think moving fbsql is quite reasonable. However interbase and sybase I do

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Pierre Joye
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 12.06.2008, at 16:31, Pierre Joye wrote: > >> - interbase >> - fbsql >> - sybase and sybase_ct > > > I think moving fbsql is quite reasonable. However interbase and sybase I do > not agree with. Who will maintain

Re: [PHP-DEV] deprecation status of $str{42} versus $str[42]

2008-06-14 Thread Stefan Walk
On Saturday 14 June 2008 15:26:20 Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > On 11.06.2008, at 01:15, Jani Taskinen wrote: > > Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't that the last decision we made > > about it the last time this was brought up? Just undocument it. > > Totally. It exists, only works with strings (right

Re: [PHP-DEV] deprecation status of $str{42} versus $str[42]

2008-06-14 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 11.06.2008, at 01:15, Jani Taskinen wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't that the last decision we made about it the last time this was brought up? Just undocument it. Totally. It exists, only works with strings (right?! :) and is not recommended. So simply make it disappear from t

Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop

2008-06-14 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 12.06.2008, at 16:31, Pierre Joye wrote: - interbase - fbsql - sybase and sybase_ct I think moving fbsql is quite reasonable. However interbase and sybase I do not agree with. regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To u