Guys,
I suggest we stop this thread now. It's just taking up time we could use to
more fruitfully in improving PHP. Please move any further rants off the
internals mailing list and keep them personal.
I do think that if there are some concrete suggestions to be heard that's
fine, but try and kee
I may be mistaken (I often am,) but I don't think anyone has asked
anyone else to put in more time than they are currently. All that was
asked for is a change in the way the PHP team does things. As I
glance over Roshan's first email, all I see are requests that sound
fairly reasonable. Things l
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, David Zülke wrote:
Same thing goes for PHP. You've developed something tens or houndreds of
thousands of developers all over the world are using. They rely on what you
tell them, their businesses rely on that, they need to move on, they need
reliable, stable software. Software
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 06:54:38 +0200, David Zülke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If you develop software, be it open or closed sourced, and this software
becomes a great success, you bear some responsibility. Microsoft with
it's
95% browser market share (and I don't care if it's 80%, 10%, 99%,
whatev
Actually, I can't imagine that either side was "shouting".
Imagine though, if you will, that PHP is the UN.
You're all delegates or whatever, sitting in a circle around the room
and someone steps in to address you. They criticise existing
practices, and suggest that others need to put more effort
He's bloody right. And Roshan has some points. Actually, I think his idea of
only moving stable extensions into the core distribution isn't that bad.
I have had issues with some of the extensions Roshan mentioned, as well.
There wasn't much I could do about it, but it was annoying.
Rasmus, Andi, w
Both you and roshan are more than welcome, if not encouraged, to stop
posting if you find us childish, immature and generally "uncool dude."
We apologize for our inferiority, we really wish we had something better
to do than respond to your mails.
-Sterling
Here we have a polite, if provocativ
Here we have a polite, if provocative, email, and two very nasty and
rude responses to it. Followed by a polite response from Roshan. If
you walk into a room and see an argument where one side is yelling and
being rude, and one person is responding calmly and politely, who
would you automatically
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Naik, Roshan wrote:
Wow, that was quite a rant from someone who hasn't contributed a damn
thing.
Really ? Are you sure ?
http://www.zend.com/zend/week/week146.php
Ok, one self-serving fix.
Even if I were someone who never contributed anything to php
and is just a user of it ...
On Aug 25, 2004, at 10:22 PM, Naik, Roshan wrote:
"Nothing prevents us from treating people with patience and courtesy.
Except of course bad manners and bad attitude."
Posting this quote in this thread is beyond ironic.
George
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> -Original Message-
> From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 5:42 PM
> To: Naik, Roshan
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Unfulfilled promises... forever experimental
> extensions... all over again
>
>
> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Naik
Hello all...
I just upgrade PHP from version 4.3.4 to version 4.3.8. After the
upgrade, almost everything worked fine but the open_basedir directive.
The server I administer provides hosting for several domains, all of
those with its own homedir restricted using open_basedir in
a scope. Some espe
On August 25, 2004 08:32 pm, Naik, Roshan wrote:
> " And exactly how long is it expected to continue to stay EXPERIMENTAL
> ?"
>
> The response was a predictable one, expressing indifference...
>
> "Between 15 days and 15 months"
I'm afraid Derick's response was somewhat incorrect. Here is a
Thanks for this quite useless and unproductive email.
I suggest to inform yourself slightly better on the tons of improvements
the PHP development team have made and where we are today vs. 4 years ago.
I suggest next time, if you want to be productive, you can contact us with
a concrete problem a
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Naik, Roshan wrote:
> Hopefully belts will be tightened up around the extensions and the
> responsibility taken up by their authors.
Wow, that was quite a rant from someone who hasn't contributed a damn
thing.
People volunteer their time and effort to this project. There are
Every once in a while somebody has to speak out about the state
of the union and bear the brunt of some anger... with a hope
that things will change for the better.
2 years back I started out asking a question being
concerned by the frustration caused to many users (and vendors
alike). Frustrat
Hi,
here's a patch proposal for bug #28371.
ftruncate() doesn't update file position and all further writes go to the old
location. (or is it an undocumented feature?)
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--- php-5.0.1/main/streams/plain_wrapper.c 2004-07-31 13:00:10.0 +0200
+++ php-5.0.1-patch/main/streams/plain_wra
At 02:31 PM 8/25/2004 -0700, Naik, Roshan wrote:
I am trying to make sense of the following 4 xml extensions distributed with
php 5
ext/libxml<- ??
Infrastructure for streams and XML extensions.
ext/simplexml {experimental)
SimpleXML (search the web)
ext/xml
SAX
ext/dom {experimen
I am trying to make sense of the following 4 xml extensions distributed with
php 5
ext/libxml<- ??
ext/simplexml {experimental)
ext/xml
ext/dom {experimental)
Dom extension's name is self describing. but about the others ?
As I understand, simplexml is a simpler-to-us
On Monday 23 of August 2004 09:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>[Output Control]
> 28673 Open readfile() crashes on huge local
That one has some proposed solution attached too...
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