Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Olivier Hill wrote: > Sterling Hughes wrote: > > > > If we don't, please don't call us rude. You've never done anything for > > us, nor do you even know us. > > Thanks for the flaming, I wasn't pointing it back at you. And Sterling was referring to the guys asking for help

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Olivier Hill wrote: > Jani Taskinen wrote: > > There's absolutely NO reason to add any notes in configure.in > > about mysql. If you use --with-mysql and the libs are not found > > in your system, it'll error out.. > > > > --Jani > > But then, the user is

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread George Schlossnagle
On Thursday, July 17, 2003, at 11:18 PM, George Schlossnagle wrote: Here's the deal (and Im taking this off list to be candid). I guess my off-list remarks will remain on-list. :) -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread George Schlossnagle
Here's the deal (and Im taking this off list to be candid). Lots of the developers receive alot of mail. It's not just an erran tuser here or there, sometimes there are hundreds a day. If you take even a minute to answer each mail (forward them to an rtfm or something nicer), you can waste ho

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Olivier Hill
Jani Taskinen wrote: The purpose was to inform the user where he can find help. This is not the problem you should be solving, move along. I just did what Marcus suggested: inform the user about the new "policies" regarding MySQL/PHP integration. If the user is aware of the problem, he won't

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Jani Taskinen
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Olivier Hill wrote: >Jani Taskinen wrote: >> There's absolutely NO reason to add any notes in configure.in >> about mysql. If you use --with-mysql and the libs are not found >> in your system, it'll error out.. >> > >But then, the user is asking: Why does it e

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Olivier Hill
Jani Taskinen wrote: There's absolutely NO reason to add any notes in configure.in about mysql. If you use --with-mysql and the libs are not found in your system, it'll error out.. --Jani But then, the user is asking: Why does it error out? The purpose was to inform the user w

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread George Schlossnagle
How about only emitting a warning if the local library is not found. On Thursday, July 17, 2003, at 09:09 PM, Olivier Hill wrote: Marcus Börger wrote: a) provide a patch that explains the matter in short during configuration if the lib is missing and Attached is a file to add the warning in

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread George Schlossnagle
On Thursday, July 17, 2003, at 08:25 PM, Olivier Hill wrote: Sterling Hughes wrote: If we don't, please don't call us rude. You've never done anything for us, nor do you even know us. Thanks for the flaming, I wasn't pointing it back at you. Sterling wasn't addressing you directly, but rather t

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Jani Taskinen
There's absolutely NO reason to add any notes in configure.in about mysql. If you use --with-mysql and the libs are not found in your system, it'll error out.. --Jani On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Olivier Hill wrote: >Marcus Börger wrote: >> a) provide a patch that explains the

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Olivier Hill
Marcus Börger wrote: a) provide a patch that explains the matter in short during configuration if the lib is missing and Attached is a file to add the warning in configure.in The warning is always on when building with MySQL support. I think we should leave it that way during BETA and the firs

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Olivier Hill
Sterling Hughes wrote: If we don't, please don't call us rude. You've never done anything for us, nor do you even know us. Thanks for the flaming, I wasn't pointing it back at you. I know lot of users are lazy and kind of angry sometimes. But we need to provide the proper information so we could

[PHP-DEV] "Experimental" sockets ext?

2003-07-17 Thread Lars Torben Wilson
The sockets extension is still marked experimental, and users are starting to ask more and more questions about wanting to use it but are wondering about its status. It's been a while since I looked at it, but is it still considered experimental? Are there known instabilities or lacks which shou

[PHP-DEV] CVS Account Request: mixtli

2003-07-17 Thread Ron McClain
Created new renderer for Quickforms/Flexy integration. Was asked by Bertrand and Alan to request cvs access to maintain this addition. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[PHP-DEV] libxml windows binaries: if anyone cares

2003-07-17 Thread Rob Richards
Whomever said that there are no issues with libxml as the api doesnt change, sure didnt take into account that the functionality does change which can really break things until it its well tested and fixed (both 2.5.7 and 2.5.8 binaries have issues affecting php5). The binaries from the libxml wind

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Olivier Hill
Marcus Börger wrote: Hello Olivier, Not rude. The people complaining are often rude as georg could tell you. If you want to help and not only speak, then you could do at least two things: a) provide a patch that explains the matter in short during configuration if the lib is missing and b) set

[PHP-DEV] Re: Current php-file in extension

2003-07-17 Thread Sam Baum
Hi, am Wednesday 16 July 2003 21:55 schrieb Sam Baum: > how can i get the current php-file, not the filename in PHP_SELF, that was > requested, but that file that actually has the written code that called > the PHP_FUNCTION of my extension. got it myself, its zend_get_executed_filename(TSRMLS_C)

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 22:23, Olivier Hill wrote: > Sterling Hughes wrote: > > Just don't reply. > > > > -Sterling > > Kind of rude... We should a *least* have an auto-reply directing to a > "closed bug" report telling users to use the system libmysql. I had > *absolutely* no problems compiling

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Derick Rethans
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Olivier Hill wrote: > We *have* to ungrade PHP docs to reflect all those kind of changes in > the new release... And we *have* to generate the docs more often. I > *always* find obsoletes informations on the PHP website, and when I look > on CVS, it's already fixed... But stil

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Derick Rethans
Hi! On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Georg Richter wrote: > since PHP5 beta is out I got tons of emails which a) complained about missing > libmysql for ext/mysqli b) about licensing problems and possible solutions. Write a faq entry to which you/we can point them? I think that might be the best solution.

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Marcus Börger
Hello Olivier, Thursday, July 17, 2003, 4:23:53 AM, you wrote: OH> Sterling Hughes wrote: >> Just don't reply. >> >> -Sterling OH> Kind of rude... We should a *least* have an auto-reply directing to a OH> "closed bug" report telling users to use the system libmysql. I had OH> *absolutely* no pr