Hello Andi,
Monday, June 30, 2003, 8:10:30 AM, you wrote:
AG> At 07:43 AM 30/6/2003 +0200, Andi Gutmans wrote:
>>Hey,
>>
>>In my opinion beta 1 should be labeled as a beta. The fact that we are
>>fixing a few features doesn't mean it's alpha. I know what the definition
>>of alpha is but in real
Derick Rethans wrote:
> I don't think this is fair because some things were left out "because
> there would be a beta 2 anyway".
+1
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Andi Gutmans wrote:
> Can you repost the docs?
Andrei's document
http://www.sebastian-bergmann.de/stuff/reflection.txt
and my diagram for it
http://www.sebastian-bergmann.de/stuff/reflection.png
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I refer you to the jargon file, which is about as good a definition that
you can get:
http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/b/beta.html
"Mostly working, but still under test; usu. used with `in': `in beta'.
In the Real World, systems (hardware or software) software often go
through two stages of r
At 07:31 AM 30/6/2003 +0200, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
Andi Gutmans wrote:
> Do you have the URL of the docs?
The current one would be
http://www.sebastian-bergmann.de/stuff/reflection-update.png
I re-posted Andrei's document a couple of days ago and made the above
diagram at the same t
On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> I agree. I think the beta was extremely premature, but now that it is out
> we are on a release track as far as I am concerned. Beta in my view means
> feature-complete full-steam ahead for release. And that means bug fixes
> only from here on and it
Andi Gutmans wrote:
> Do you have the URL of the docs?
The current one would be
http://www.sebastian-bergmann.de/stuff/reflection-update.png
I re-posted Andrei's document a couple of days ago and made the above
diagram at the same time.
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Do you have the URL of the docs?
Andi
At 07:15 AM 30/6/2003 +0200, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
Jon Parise wrote:
> Without going into detail on any of these specific items, I think that
> the only work that should be undertaken between now and the release of
> PHP 5 is cleanup and bug fixing.
One
At 07:15 AM 30/6/2003 +0200, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
Jon Parise wrote:
> Without going into detail on any of these specific items, I think that
> the only work that should be undertaken between now and the release of
> PHP 5 is cleanup and bug fixing.
One thing that is IMHO essential for the PH
Jon Parise wrote:
> Without going into detail on any of these specific items, I think that
> the only work that should be undertaken between now and the release of
> PHP 5 is cleanup and bug fixing.
One thing that is IMHO essential for the PHP 5.0.0 is the Reflection
API on which George and An
At 07:43 AM 30/6/2003 +0200, Andi Gutmans wrote:
Hey,
In my opinion beta 1 should be labeled as a beta. The fact that we are
fixing a few features doesn't mean it's alpha. I know what the definition
of alpha is but in real life most beta's do end up having quite a few code
changes before releas
fixed in cvs - thanks.
-Sterling
On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 00:26, Elfyn McBratney wrote:
> There's a small typo in ext/xsl/config.m4 . T'is small, but I though I'd submit
> a patch. :)
>
> 2003-06-30 Elfyn McBratney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> * ext/xsl/config.m4: Fix 'test' conditional.
>
>
Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
> Hm, I'm pointing it to an installed MySQL 4.0.13. Georg? Zak?
I get the same linker errors with MySQL 3.23.57.
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Hey,
In my opinion beta 1 should be labeled as a beta. The fact that we are
fixing a few features doesn't mean it's alpha. I know what the definition
of alpha is but in real life most beta's do end up having quite a few code
changes before release.
I agree that we should try and feature freeze
There's a small typo in ext/xsl/config.m4 . T'is small, but I though I'd submit
a patch. :)
2003-06-30 Elfyn McBratney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* ext/xsl/config.m4: Fix 'test' conditional.
Index: config.m4
===
RCS file: /reposi
On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Shane Caraveo wrote:
> Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> > On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Steven Brown wrote:
> >
> >>Does this mean that non-GPL projects written in PHP will soon have to
> >>buy a license for MySQL or migrate off it?
> >
> >
> > Yes, pending some sort of excemption/additional ri
There is no real reason why we can't adapt our habits to reflect the
concepts others understand them as. AKA why not just stop calling it a
BETA, and refer to it as an ALPHA? At least users would recognize what
this is.
On Sunday, June 29, 2003, at 11:48 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
The proble
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Steven Brown wrote:
Does this mean that non-GPL projects written in PHP will soon have to
buy a license for MySQL or migrate off it?
Yes, pending some sort of excemption/additional rights clause from MySQL
AB which would permit these projects to do so,
On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Steven Brown wrote:
> Does this mean that non-GPL projects written in PHP will soon have to
> buy a license for MySQL or migrate off it?
Yes, pending some sort of excemption/additional rights clause from MySQL
AB which would permit these projects to do so, that is what it mean
The problem here is just that the PHP notion of a beta is very different
from what most of the world expects from a beta. We have cleaned up some
aspects or our versioning and I was hoping we could clean this up as well.
But I guess not. So, at the very least we need a versioning FAQ where we
exp
> -Original Message-
> From: Derick Rethans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 12:02 PM
> To: Robert Cummings
> Cc: Sterling Hughes; PHP Developers Mailing List;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: [PHP] PHP 5.0.0 Beta 1
>
>
> On Sun, 29 Jun
Jon,
I have to agree with your thinking as well.
Although to the rest of internals, a plea. Can we please wait until
after a weekend to send out release notifications?
On Sunday, June 29, 2003, at 08:59 PM, Jon Parise wrote:
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 02:28:35AM +0200, Marcus Brger wrote:
In n
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Jon Parise wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 02:28:35AM +0200, Marcus Brger wrote:
> >
> > > In no particular order these are the things i think should be done before
> > > releasing the next php 5 beta version:
> >
> > Without going into detail on any of these specific i
SQLite sessions are a good idea, however this is a problem with your
implementation. Because during inserts/updates sqlite locks the entire
database unless you turn of synchronization session mechanism will be
extremely slow. My earlier tests, showed 10-15 new sessions per second with
synchroni
Since SQLite will be bundled in the future, I sat down and got
acquainted with it by writing a module for the session extension which
allows users to store their session data in a SQLite database*.
To use, just apply the patch to session.c (which adds the reference to
the new module and adds the
Hello,
On 06/29/2003 04:16 PM, Sascha Schumann wrote:
- Due to issues surrounding the MySQL 4.0 license, the MySQL libraries
are no longer bundled with PHP. For more information on these
licensing changes please see the MySQL licensing policy [1]
[1] http://www.mysql.com/products/licensing
Ignore.
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I agree. I think the beta was extremely premature, but now that it is out
we are on a release track as far as I am concerned. Beta in my view means
feature-complete full-steam ahead for release. And that means bug fixes
only from here on and it also means a PHP_5_0 branch.
-Rasmus
On Sun, 29 J
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 02:28:35AM +0200, Marcus Brger wrote:
> In no particular order these are the things i think should be done before
> releasing the next php 5 beta version:
Without going into detail on any of these specific items, I think that
the only work that should be undertaken between
Hello 'internals',
In no particular order these are the things i think should be done before
releasing the next php 5 beta version:
- Include SPL (forach/array hooking).
- Implement overloading as suggested by Sterling.
- Typehinting with '= NULL' to allow NULL values as discussed
- Array and
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Marcus BXrger wrote:
> Also i think we should finally move snprintf and spprintf into the engine.
> First because snprintf is at least once being used inside the engine with a
> very strange workaround for systems were it is completely missing and second
> because it would mak
Hello Marcus,
Monday, June 30, 2003, 12:54:04 AM, you wrote:
MB> Hello edin,
MB> we are relying on certain aspects of the snprintf implementation which the
MB> windows implementation does not meet. After a long discussion with Sascha on
MB> the matter i think someone deeply involved in the windo
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Marcus BXrger wrote:
> Hello edin,
>
> we are relying on certain aspects of the snprintf implementation which the
> windows implementation does not meet. After a long discussion with Sascha on
> the matter i think someone deeply involved in the windows build should try out
>
Hello edin,
we are relying on certain aspects of the snprintf implementation which the
windows implementation does not meet. After a long discussion with Sascha on
the matter i think someone deeply involved in the windows build should try out
our own implementation which is used on *nix platforms
Since yesterday, I haven't been able to send any email
to any @php.net addresses...something broken?
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Hello,
Does anybody object if I remove the php-4.3.0-dev-zend2-* files from
phpweb/distributions ? This saves atleast 20mb...
regards,
Derick
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Sterling Hughes wrote:
The PHP development community is proud to announce the release of
PHP 5 Beta 1. Both source packages and a Win32 build are available, you
can find these packages at http://www.php.net/downloads.php.
Is it a good idea to list it ON TOP of the download page?
Newbies will just
On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 12:25:39PM -0400, Sterling Hughes wrote:
> Hi,
>
> So I figure I'll restart this discussion. There are a couple of reasons
> I want to bundle libxml2:
>
> 1) XML support is crucial. You may not like XML, but its the standard
> for data exchange these days, and is incredi
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Robert Cummings wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 2003-06-29 at 14:19, Sterling Hughes wrote:
> > >
> > > - Due to issues surrounding the MySQL 4.0 license, the MySQL libraries
> > > are no longer bundled with PHP. For more information on these
> > > licensing changes please se
Here is a first implementation of the reflection api, for functions
(class PHP_Function in you diagram)
http://www.schlossnagle.org/~george/php/reflection.diff
http://www.schlossnagle.org/~george/php/zend_reflection_api.c
http://www.schlossnagle.org/~george/php/zend_reflection_api.h
Comments? Th
Ahhh crap. I read the PHP license a long time ago. I guess time faded my
memory and I began to think of it as GPL.
Thanks,
Rob.
On Sun, 2003-06-29 at 15:02, Derick Rethans wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Robert Cummings wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 2003-06-29 at 14:19, Sterling Hughes wrote:
> > >
> > >
Sorry I just hit reply-all :| My bad.
Cheers,
Rob.
On Sun, 2003-06-29 at 15:04, Elfyn McBratney wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Robert Cummings wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 2003-06-29 at 14:19, Sterling Hughes wrote:
> > >
> > > - Due to issues surrounding the MySQL 4.0 license, the MySQL libraries
> >
On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Robert Cummings wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-06-29 at 14:19, Sterling Hughes wrote:
> >
> > - Due to issues surrounding the MySQL 4.0 license, the MySQL libraries
> > are no longer bundled with PHP. For more information on these
> > licensing changes please see the MySQL l
On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Robert Cummings wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-06-29 at 14:19, Sterling Hughes wrote:
> >
> > - Due to issues surrounding the MySQL 4.0 license, the MySQL libraries
> > are no longer bundled with PHP. For more information on these
> > licensing changes please see the MySQL l
On Sun, 2003-06-29 at 14:19, Sterling Hughes wrote:
>
> - Due to issues surrounding the MySQL 4.0 license, the MySQL libraries
> are no longer bundled with PHP. For more information on these
> licensing changes please see the MySQL licensing policy [1]
>
> [1] http://www.mysql.com/produc
The PHP development community is proud to announce the release of
PHP 5 Beta 1. Both source packages and a Win32 build are available, you
can find these packages at http://www.php.net/downloads.php. For a
complete list of changes, please refer to
http://www.php.net/ChangeLog-5.php.
Some of the m
Subject: [PHP-GTK-DEV] module defined callbacks in php-gtk - function
pointer experts needed :)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 00:06:31 +0800
From: Alan Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andrei Zmievski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andrei, attached is a patch for adding a cal
> > Can the documentation be found anywhere?
>
> The next best thing to documentation for PHP 5's new language features
> is a file called ZEND_CHANGES
>
> http://cvs.php.net/co.php/ZendEngine2/ZEND_CHANGES
>
> The PHP Documentation Team will meet at LinuxTag to discuss, among
> oth
> I agree but I meant different thing.
From my POV, it is up the author(s) of a specific piece of
software to declare their code thread-safe. Such info can
then be tracked in a central document. One can augment such
a process by providing audit guidelines on how to approach
t
"Ilia A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> The
> > date_sunrise() and date_sunset() functions
> > [ext/standard/tests/general_functions/sunfuncts.phpt]
> test failure was the result of patch correcting this problem is now in the CVS.
>
there is precision case there.
> > > We could of course mutex every call to every external function. Then
we
> > > could be reasonably sure it would work, and at the same time we could
be
> > > sure that it was much slower than running it non-threaded.
> >
> > Any crash in an area protected by mutex would leave this mutex in
>
Markku Niskanen wrote:
> Can the documentation be found anywhere?
The next best thing to documentation for PHP 5's new language features
is a file called ZEND_CHANGES
http://cvs.php.net/co.php/ZendEngine2/ZEND_CHANGES
The PHP Documentation Team will meet at LinuxTag to discuss, among
Hello!
I did my best to find the download page for current PHP5 documentation
but could not find anything. Can the documentation be found anywhere?
I do not mind being called stupid in case finding it is a trivial task :)
Markku
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