Re: [Int-area] Call for adoption of draft-nachum-sarp-06.txt

2013-08-23 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
+1 Regards, Behcet On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Sheng Jiang wrote: > Support the adoption. This document has targeted a real issue and proposed > a workable solution. > > Regards, > > Sheng > > >-Original Message- > >From: int-area-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.or

Re: [Int-area] request to consider sponsoring http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boucadair-intarea-host-identifier-scenarios-04

2014-03-07 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi Joe, On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Joe Touch wrote: > Brian, > > Although I don't disagree with the points below, it's useful to consider > that INT is already working in this area, so I don't see either (a) or (c) > as being relevant unless you expect to shift current INT docs to other W

Re: [Int-area] request to consider sponsoring http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boucadair-intarea-host-identifier-scenarios-04

2014-03-10 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Joe Touch wrote: > > > On 3/7/2014 1:30 AM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: > >> Hi Joe, >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Joe Touch > <mailto:to...@isi.edu>> wrote: >> >> Brian, >>

Re: [Int-area] request to consider sponsoring http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boucadair-intarea-host-identifier-scenarios-04

2014-03-10 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi Brian, On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Brian E Carpenter < brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com> wrote: > a) Since this is fixing some of the damage done by NAT, it's > really unfinished business for BEHAVE, which if iirc was a > Transport Area WG. Just saying... > > b) The word "privacy" doesn't a

Re: [Int-area] Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-intarea-host-identifier-scenarios-04

2014-06-06 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 7:47 AM, wrote: > I support adoption of this draft and would like to take the opportunity of > this message to remind the group about ETSI's interest for Use case#9, as > expressed in a Liaison Statement sent last year. > https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1292/ > +1

Re: [Int-area] Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-intarea-host-identifier-scenarios-04

2014-07-23 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi Ted, On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Ted Lemon wrote: > On Jul 23, 2014, at 8:11 AM, Eggert, Lars wrote: >> I wanted to repeat my comment from the meeting. Given that at least in my >> read of RFC6967, there exist to sane mechanism to even exchange host IDs >> across the network, I don't

Re: [Int-area] Why combine IP-in-UDP with GUE?

2015-04-29 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi Tom, On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Tom Herbert wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Templin, Fred L > wrote: >> Hi Lucy, >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Lucy yong [mailto:lucy.y...@huawei.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 7:48 AM >>> To: Templin, Fred L; stbry...@c

Re: [Int-area] Why combine IP-in-UDP with GUE?

2015-04-29 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Tom Herbert wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Behcet Sarikaya > wrote: >> Hi Tom, >> >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Tom Herbert wrote: >>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Templin, Fred L >>> wrote: >

Re: [Int-area] Why combine IP-in-UDP with GUE?

2015-04-29 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Tom Herbert wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Behcet Sarikaya > wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Tom Herbert wrote: >>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Behcet Sarikaya >>> wrote: >>>> Hi Tom, >&

Re: [Int-area] [trill] Fwd: Mail regarding draft-ietf-trill-over-ip

2015-05-04 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi Xiaohu, Joe, On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Xuxiaohu wrote: > Hi Joe, > > I'm wondering whether your proposal as below is also applicable to other > UDP-based encapsulation approaches which have not yet considered doing > fragmentation on the tunnel layer, such as GENEVE, VXLAN-GPE, GRE-

Re: [Int-area] Upcoming NomCom season

2015-07-03 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
As one of your chairs (now ex- already), I welcome you in the technical area and maybe we can write drafts jointly :-) Regards, Behcet On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > On 03/07/2015 03:24, Warren Kumari wrote: >> On Thursday, July 2, 2015, Ralph Droms wrote: >> >>> Br

[Int-area] Dorothy presentation

2015-11-05 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi all, Here is the link to Dorothy's ppt file from 802.11 document server: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/15/11-15-1261-02-0arc-mulicast-performance-optimization-features-overview-for-ietf-nov-2015.ppt Regards, Behcet ___ Int-area mailing list

Re: [Int-area] ILA and int-area

2017-05-17 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 12:53 AM, Tom Herbert wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Joel M. Halpern > wrote: > > If we want the documents to be informational, then it should be about a > > context where we understand how to build the surrounding infrastructure. > > For example, if it were do

Re: [Int-area] ILA and int-area

2017-05-17 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Joel M. Halpern wrote: > I do not think classic Internet tunnels (e.g. IP in IP or GRE) are a good > comparison for ILA. The ILA mapping requires dynamic knowledge about the > remote end. (One of the things that is important about ILA is its ability > to hide dy

Re: [Int-area] IP-not-v10

2017-09-28 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Joe Touch wrote: > > > > On Sep 28, 2017, at 7:56 PM, Khaled Omar > wrote: > > > > I still didn't recognize what is the problem of version number 10 > > That number is assigned by IANA if - and only when - a protocol proposal > qualifies for that assignment. > >

Re: [Int-area] FW: IP-not-v10

2017-09-29 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
LX is 60 in Roman numbers, so it is 10 times 6 :) Behcer On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Khaled Omar wrote: > > -Original Message- > From: Khaled Omar > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 6:34 PM > To: 'Templin, Fred L' > Subject: RE: [Int-area] IP-not-v10 > > What IPvLX means ? > > We

Re: [Int-area] 回复: Request a WG adoption call for draft-xu-intarea-ip-in-udp

2018-05-17 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 10:22 PM, 徐小虎(义先) wrote: > It doesn't matter whether or not it's already there. IMHO, given the > popularity of different overlay technologies such as VXLAN and MPLS-in-UDP > in practice, GUE initially and mainly targeted as a DC overlay approach has > little change to be

Re: [Int-area] [DMM] New draft posted: Anchorless mobility management through hICN (hICN-AMM): Deployment options

2018-06-20 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 6:21 PM, Luca Muscariello < luca.muscarie...@gmail.com> wrote: > I wonder whether this conversation should happen in the intarea wg mailing > list > as the main draft was posted there in the first place. I don't know if > cross posting is welcome > but I take the risk. > >

Re: [Int-area] [DMM] New draft posted: Anchorless mobility management through hICN (hICN-AMM): Deployment options

2018-06-20 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
other, rather exploiting in > the combination the advantages of both ones. > > > I don't understand. SRv6 is tunneling technique while hICN is talking about anchoress mobility. Did I get something wrong? Behcet > Giovanna > ------ > *From:* Int-area

Re: [Int-area] [DMM] New draft posted: Anchorless mobility management through hICN (hICN-AMM): Deployment options

2018-06-22 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Luca, On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 3:46 AM, Luca Muscariello < luca.muscarie...@gmail.com> wrote: > These solutions are not all isomorphic and comparison requires some > careful taxonomy first. > The -01 version of the draft Kalyani is taking care of will include that > and will definitely help to >

Re: [Int-area] [ih] Fwd: Existing use of IP protocol 114 (any 0-hop protocol)

2019-09-20 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 7:02 PM John Gilmore wrote: > Protocol 114 was unassigned in RFC 1700 in Oct 1994, which was the last > RFC tabulating protocol assignments. In January 2002, RFCs ceased being > published for protocol number assignments, according to RFC 3232. > Sometime before Feb 1999,

Re: [Int-area] [saag] 3rd WGLC (limited-scope): draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt-15, closes 29 June 2020

2020-07-01 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
+1 I think it is a good draft, out of very hard work, a lot of sweat. Behcet On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 10:10 AM Joseph Touch wrote: > -1 > > Although it’s understandable to describe “what operators do”, the IETF > isn’t a news service. We typically summarize these behaviors to take a > position o

Re: [Int-area] Suggestion to move draft-olteanu-intarea-socks as Independent Submissions

2021-01-15 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi Eric, I am sure you know, all independent Submission documents can only be published as Informational. I did not check what status the authors wish to have but it is good to mention here. Regards, Behcet On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 7:55 AM Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote: > Vladimir, Dragos, > > >

Re: [Int-area] Suggestion to move draft-olteanu-intarea-socks as Independent Submissions

2021-01-18 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
g to do so. > > > > Best, > > Adrian > > > > *From:* Int-area *On Behalf Of *Eric Vyncke > (evyncke) > *Sent:* 15 January 2021 15:52 > *To:* sarik...@ieee.org > *Cc:* int-area@ietf.org; dragos.nicule...@cs.pub.ro > *Subject:* Re: [Int-area] Suggestion to

Re: [Int-area] The small address use case in FlexIP

2021-02-03 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi Stewart, Thanks for your analysis. I haven't read the drafts you mentioned but I thought that the address size issue was long resolved with the IPv6: basically it matters on the wireless medium and this is solved by the so-called ROHC RObust Header Compression, which is adapted by 5G and it wo

Re: [Int-area] Using ISO8473 as a network layer to carry flexible addresses

2021-03-01 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 2:08 PM Brian E Carpenter < brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Toerless, > On 02-Mar-21 04:33, Toerless Eckert wrote: > > It is somewhat ironic to see how it was IP and IPv6 that where the > protocols that where > > successfully enhanced with additional adress semantic

Re: [Int-area] New Version Notification for draft-sarathchandra-tactile-internet-00.txt

2021-06-29 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
To Intarea chairs, I was glancing through the mails on this draft and related ones. It seems like the issue discussed is or very similar to those already being discussed in IRTF. So spend WG time on this? Behcet On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 4:23 AM Dirk Trossen wrote: > Hi Chathura, > > Please see

Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for draft-lhan-problems-requirements-satellite-net-00.txt

2021-07-05 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi Lin, Thanks for this interesting work. I don't understand why the ID link is so complicated? Why not just submit it on the datatracker? Behcet On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 7:41 PM Lin Han wrote: > Hi, > > This draft analyzed the problems and requirements for the satellite > network when it is int

Re: [Int-area] New Version Notification for draft-lhan-problems-requirements-satellite-net-00.txt

2021-07-08 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 12:18 PM Lin Han wrote: > Hi, Hesham > > > > Thanks for the info. > > The reference from prof. Mark has been given in the draft as > [UCL-Mark-Handley] (sec. 7.2.2), the paper has demonstrated that satellite > relay can achieve shorter latency than ground fiber network thro

Re: [Int-area] IP parcels

2022-01-27 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi Folks, Thanks Christian for explaining how GSO/GRO are used by Quic implementations. So the use is not mandated in Quic RFCs but rather used in implementations. I found this presentation by Intel: https://www.dpdk.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/35/2018/06/GRO-GSO-Libraries-Bring-Significant-Perf

Re: [Int-area] New draft: The IETF Will Continue Maintaining IPv4 (draft-schoen-intarea-ietf-maintaining-ipv4)

2022-03-15 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
+1 Behcet On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 3:32 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: > +1 > > > El 15/3/22, 21:05, "Int-area en nombre de Brian E Carpenter" < > int-area-boun...@ietf.org en nombre de brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com> > escribió: > > Hi, > > > Please let us know if you have any questions a

Re: [Int-area] Welcome to join the SAVNET BoF meeting on Thursday

2022-03-23 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 10:05 AM wrote: > Dear all, > > > > The SAVNET BoF (source address validation for intra-domain and > inter-domain networks) will be held on Thursday. I am writing this letter > to invite colleagues from the INT-AREA WG who have interests on this topic > to join the BoF. Th

Re: [Int-area] What is in a name - draft-ietf-intarea-schc-ip-protocol-number

2023-04-06 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 5:17 AM tom petch wrote: > From: Robert Moskowitz > Sent: 05 April 2023 18:58 > > The origin draft only was discussing SCHC as an IP Protocol Number. > > At IETF115, the attendees agreed that the draft needs to be expanded to > also SCHC as an Ethertype and as a UDP Port N

Re: [Int-area] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-chroboczek-intarea-v4-via-v6 - "IPv4 routes with an IPv6 next hop"

2024-01-23 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 2:23 PM Warren Kumari wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 12:08 PM, Herbie Robinson < > herbie.robin...@stratus.com> wrote: > >> I think the ICMP problem needs to be addressed. Perhaps with an IPv4 >> option to embed the identity of the router (IPv6 address or some o

Re: [Int-area] intarea charter

2009-09-30 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
I suggest continuing like before and using Int-Area as a means of discussing issues of common interest in the Internet area. And occasionally advance some documents. Regards, Behcet - Original Message > From: Brian E Carpenter > To: Internet Area > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2

Re: [Int-area] intarea charter

2009-10-01 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Absolutely. I think that Int-area as a forum is to me more meaningful than IntArea WG is where certain documents will be advanced. Maybe other areas like TSV have specific reasons to create a WG like TSVWG which has lots of documents, I don't see the same in Int-Area. I think that people shoul

Re: [Int-area] intarea charter

2009-10-13 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
+1 Regards, Behcet - Original Message > From: Suresh Krishnan > To: Jari Arkko > Cc: Internet Area > Sent: Mon, October 12, 2009 10:28:19 AM > Subject: Re: [Int-area] intarea charter > > Hi Jari, > > On 09-10-12 11:18 AM, Jari Arkko wrote: > > The second possibility is to create

Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6

2010-03-04 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi Raj,   I agree that basic MIP6 should not have RO feature, just like PMIPv6. I think in basic MIP6 we should define an IP entity close to MN, like AR. Again like PMIPv6. Regards, Behcet - Original Message > From: "basavaraj.pa...@nokia.com" > To: wassim.had...@ericsson.com; m...@

Re: [Int-area] End-to-end "address transparency"

2011-01-10 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
> Hi, Remi, > > On 10/01/2011 05:30 a.m., Rémi Després wrote: > > >> End-to-end transparency in the sense that every node will be > >> reachable from every node? > > > > The e2e transparency that IPv4 had lost, and IPv6 restores, is > > ADDRESS transparency: source and destination addresse

Re: [Int-area] Call for confirming adoption of draft-boucadair-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis-04 as intarea working group draft

2011-12-05 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
+1 Behcet On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Fred Baker wrote: > From my perspective, the draft addresses the right set of issues. I > personally am concerned about asking host vendors (or for that matter NAT > and proxy vendors) to do extra work to keep IPv4 running; I'm personally > very happy t

Re: [Int-area] Call for agenda items

2012-02-24 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi Suresh, I would like to ask for a 20-minute slot to present Fixed Mobile Convergence (FMC) Problem Statement draft. The draft has not yet been submitted but it will be sometime next week. Regards, Behcet On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Suresh Krishnan wrote: > Hi all, >  The intarea WG wil

[Int-area] FMC PS Draft and Bar BoF

2012-03-06 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
n of I-D, draft-xue-intarea-fmc-ps-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Behcet Sarikaya and posted to the IETF repository. Filename:        draft-xue-intarea-fmc-ps Revision:        00 Title:           Problem Statement for Fixed Mobile Convergence Creation date:   2012-03-02 W

[Int-area] FMC Bar Bof Date Correction

2012-03-14 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi all, Our previous mail on March 6 announcing FMC Bar Bof had by mistake the date as March 28. Tuesday March 27 at 19:30 or 7:30pm is the correct one. We are going to send another mail once this is confirmed by IETF. Sorry for the confusion and thanks to Wassim, Med, Sophie for waking us up :

[Int-area] FMC Side Meeting Announcement

2012-03-23 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Side meeting on Fixed Mobile Convergence will take place on Thursday March 29, 2012 from 18:10 to 20:00 at room 212-213. The agenda and materials are posted at: http://www-etud.iro.umontreal.ca/~sarikaya/fmc/fmc.html Come and join us in this meeting. Behcet & Dirk ___

[Int-area] FMC Final Date & Time: Tuesday

2012-03-25 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
IETF could not find us an appropriate room so as a result we will hold FMC meeting at the original time. Details are below: Tuesday March 27 at 19:30 or 7:30 Meet at Hotel Concorde Lobby Take a look at the materials at the link given below. On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Behcet Sarikaya

[Int-area] Announcing fmc mailing list

2012-04-04 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
A new list has been created for fixed mobile convergence (FMC) discussions, f...@ietf.org. If interested, please subscribe the list using this link: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fmc Regards, Behcet & Dirk ___ Int-area mailing list Int-area@ie

Re: [Int-area] ACTION REQUIRED: Extending working group last call for draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis-02

2012-06-27 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Support. Regards, Behcet On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Suresh Krishnan wrote: > Hi all, >  The WGLC on this draft ended with no comments at all. In this context, > we cannot assume that silence equates to consent. In order for this > draft to progress, we need people to read the draft and p

Re: [Int-area] ACTION REQUIRED: Extending working group last call for draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis-02

2012-07-26 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi Med, On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 2:10 AM, wrote: > Dear Lars, > > Please see inline. > > Cheers, > Med > >>-Message d'origine- >>De : int-area-boun...@ietf.org >>[mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Eggert, Lars >>Envoyé : vendredi 6 juillet 2012 09:40 >>À : Alissa Cooper >>C

Re: [Int-area] Completion of working group last call for draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis-02

2012-07-26 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:25 AM, wrote: > Dear Suresh, all, > > After reading received comments, the major point we need to discuss is > whether the WG wants to remove Section 3.3 or maintain it. I'm waiting for a > feedback from the WG for the direction to take. I will implement any change >

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-12 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi Suresh, On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Suresh Krishnan < suresh.krish...@ericsson.com> wrote: > Hi Brian, > Thanks for the review. I wanted to clarify three points that you > raised and I will ask the authors take care of the rest. > > On 02/11/2013 04:11 PM, Brian Haberman wrote: > > 7. I

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-13 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi Suresh, On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Suresh Krishnan < suresh.krish...@ericsson.com> wrote: > Hi Behcet, > > On 02/12/2013 05:57 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: > > Hi Suresh, > > > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Suresh Krishnan > > mailto

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-13 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi Med, On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:43 AM, wrote: > ** > Hi Behcet, > > I have two comments: > > * Host identification issue is valid for any address sharing mechanism. > I am not sure on A+P? A+P requires point-to-point link, right? > This is why the introduction mentions already the followin

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-13 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
> Cheers, > Med > > ------ > *De :* Behcet Sarikaya [mailto:sarikaya2...@gmail.com] > *Envoyé :* mercredi 13 février 2013 18:01 > *À :* BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/OLN > *Cc :* Suresh Krishnan; Brian Haberman; > draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analy...@tools.ietf.org; int-area@ietf.org

Re: [Int-area] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis

2013-02-14 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
t; Cheers, > Med > > -- > *De :* Behcet Sarikaya [mailto:sarikaya2...@gmail.com] > *Envoyé :* mercredi 13 février 2013 20:09 > > *À :* BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/OLN > *Cc :* Suresh Krishnan; Brian Haberman; > draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analy...@too