Absolutely. I think that Int-area as a forum is to me more meaningful than 
IntArea WG is  where certain documents will be advanced.

Maybe other areas like TSV have specific reasons to create a WG like TSVWG 
which has lots of documents, I don't see the same in Int-Area.

I think that people should take the pains to organize a BoF and establish 
consensus if they wish a new WG.

Regards,

Behcet



----- Original Message ----
> From: Ahmad Muhanna <amuha...@nortel.com>
> To: Jari Arkko <jari.ar...@piuha.net>; Internet Area <int-area@ietf.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 8:52:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [Int-area] intarea charter
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I believe this meeting has been very beneficial and useful in the sense
> that it is a little different than regular working groups:) It served as
> somewhat an open forum for exchanging/presenting new big ideas and
> things that is important to the internet, etc. 
> 
> I do not mind moving this to a working group as long as we have another
> alternative with the same format.
> 
> The fact that this meeting attracted quite huge audience is a testimony
> that it is doing some thing special!
> 
> Regards,
> Ahmad
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: int-area-boun...@ietf.org 
> > [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jari Arkko
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:26 AM
> > To: Internet Area
> > Subject: [Int-area] intarea charter
> > 
> > All,
> > 
> > We have had Internet Area meetings for a number of years now, 
> > but I'm not sure if anyone's noticed that its formally just a 
> > meeting and not an official working group. We do have a list, 
> > we talk about important topics during the meetings, and 
> > sometimes we even progress documents that have no obvious 
> > home elsewhere. We run working group last calls, but formally 
> > the documents that we take forward are AD sponsored 
> > individual submissions.
> > 
> > Ralph and I have reviewed the situation and we think that it 
> > would be useful to turn the group into an official working 
> > group. This has a number of benefits:
> > 
> > - the group would show up in the tools.ietf.org/wg/directory
> >    and other systems
> > 
> > - we'd have a charter that describes to everyone what the group
> >    is supposed to talk about
> > 
> > - the process would be clearer for, say, adopting a document
> > 
> > - the ADs would get also a blue dot in their IETF badges :-) or
> >    depending on workload, we could hire other chairs, secretaries,
> >    and so on to help with the group
> > 
> > In other words, the group wouldn't be such a special case for 
> > us to deal with. Thoughts? We have included a suggested charter below.
> > 
> > Jari and Ralph
> > 
> > -----
> > 
> > Internet Area Working Group (intarea)
> > 
> > Last modified: 2009-09-30
> > 
> > Chairs:
> > Jari Arkko 
> > Ralph Droms 
> > 
> > Internet Area (int) Directors:
> > Jari Arkko 
> > Ralph Droms 
> > 
> > Internet Area Advisor:
> > Jari Arkko 
> > Ralph Droms 
> > 
> > Mailing Lists:
> > General Discussion: int-area@ietf.org
> > Subscribe online at: https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area
> > 
> > Description of Working Group:
> > 
> > The Internet Area Working Group (INTAREA WG) acts as a forum 
> > for discussing far-ranging topics that affect the entire 
> > area. Such topics include, for instance, address space 
> > issues, basic IP layer functionality, and architectural questions.
> > 
> > The Internet Area receives occasional proposals for the 
> > development and publication of RFCs that are not in scope of 
> > an existing working group and do not justify the formation of 
> > a new working group. The INTAREA WG will also serve as the 
> > forum for developing such work items in the IETF.
> > 
> > The working group milestones are updated as needed to reflect 
> > the current work items and their associated milestones. 
> > Significant new work items will be brought for approval with the IESG.
> > 
> > Milestones:
> > 
> > December 2009  Submission of IPID document to the IESG as PS
> > March    2010  Submission of tunneling issues document to the 
> > IESG as Info
> > December 2010  Submission of SEAL document to the IESG as Exp
> > 
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