[Int-area] Where/How is the features innovation happening?

Dear all, We have had a very nice discussion in the previous thread about what kind of features we would want from the Internet. We wanted to come back on another interesting point that has been raised during the side meeting held during IETF 112, namely is where the innovation happening?

Re: [Int-area] Side meeting follow-up: What exact features do we want from the Internet?

Le 15/12/2021 à 20:09, Carsten Bormann a écrit : RFC 8930 It says: VRB overcomes the limitations listed in Section 4. Nodes do not wait for the last fragment before forwarding, I did not to fragment, but to re-group. Fragmentation and reassembly happening at the sender and receiver

Re: [Int-area] Where/How is the features innovation happening?

Le 16/12/2021 à 10:09, Luigi Iannone a écrit : Dear all, We have had a very nice discussion in the previous thread about what kind of features we would want from the Internet. We wanted to come back on another interesting point that has been raised during the side meeting held during IETF 112

Re: [Int-area] Side meeting follow-up: What exact features do we want from the Internet?

Le 15/12/2021 à 04:40, Jiayihao a écrit : Hello Alex, Really agree on your views on "The Internet does no harm". Sorry to make it confused by the term "Kernel". Actually I borrow this term from Linux but do not want to correlate that to Linux. I use this term because this item looks like th

Re: [Int-area] Where/How is the features innovation happening?

Hi Alex, Thanks, I might have been unclear. By “where” I meant to make a difference between the core infrastructure and “edges“, where the latter can be considered limited domains that need to interconnect to the Internet (the core) but as well among them not necessarily going through a centra

Re: [Int-area] Where/How is the features innovation happening?

Le 16/12/2021 à 12:29, Luigi Iannone a écrit : Hi Alex, Thanks, I might have been unclear. By “where” I meant to make a difference between the core infrastructure and “edges“, where the latter can be considered limited domains that need to interconnect to the Internet (the core) but as wel

Re: [Int-area] Where/How is the features innovation happening?

Hi Alex, A few comments inline L. Sent from my iPad > On 16 Dec 2021, at 12:48, Alexandre Petrescu > wrote: > >  > >> Le 16/12/2021 à 12:29, Luigi Iannone a écrit : >> Hi Alex, >> Thanks, I might have been unclear. >> By “where” I meant to make a difference between the core infrastructure

Re: [Int-area] Where/How is the features innovation happening?

> On 16 Dec 2021, at 8:09 pm, Luigi Iannone wrote: > > Dear all, > > We have had a very nice discussion in the previous thread about what kind of > features we would want from the Internet. > > We wanted to come back on another interesting point that has been raised > during the side mee

Re: [Int-area] Where/How is the features innovation happening?

I sure hope you are wrong about where things are going. Because the logical consequence of the placement and addressing picture you paint is that all innovation in applications and uses of the Internet comes from incumbent players who have the leverage and resources to be present at almost all

Re: [Int-area] Where/How is the features innovation happening?

> If we don't want to share a common transmission resource, then why do we need > globally unique addresses to use in IP packet headers? Locally unique > addresses would do just as well. Just to answer this question specifically. We may not need globally unique addresses. But I need a unique ad

Re: [Int-area] Where/How is the features innovation happening?

> On 17 Dec 2021, at 7:33 am, Joel M. Halpern wrote: > > I sure hope you are wrong about where things are going. so do I. > Because the logical consequence of the placement and addressing picture you > paint is that all innovation in applications and uses of the Internet comes > from incum