Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion

2022-11-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz
. *From:*Luigi IANNONE *Sent:* Wednesday, 19 October 2022 16:24 *To:* 'Luigi Iannone' ; int-area *Subject:* RE: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion Hi All, I think that we are all a bit busy before the cut-off date next Monday. Let’s have a chat on the  addressing and the

Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion

2022-11-10 Thread Luigi IANNONE
ubject: RE: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion Hi All, I think that we are all a bit busy before the cut-off date next Monday. Let’s have a chat on the addressing and the framework mentioned in the email thread during 115 IETF in London. We need to understand what is feasible and, more impor

Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion - climate change

2022-10-25 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
Le 21/10/2022 à 20:50, John Gilmore a écrit : Alexandre Petrescu wrote: it might make sense to try to make IPv6 to be quantum resistant. Relax, have no fear. Both IPv4 and IPv6 are already fully buzzword compliant. They are climate change compatible, I will not provoke, but one would n

Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion - quantum resistant IPv6

2022-10-25 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
Le 21/10/2022 à 16:24, Joel Halpern a écrit : I am unable to parse the statement below as written. I presume I am missing something that is clear to the writer. I can understand asking that IKE(v3?) and IPSEC ESP be upgraded to support quantum resistant algorithms. How about IPsec AH ICV?

Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion - quantum resistant IPv6

2022-10-21 Thread Dino Farinacci
And Pro-Life? ;-) Dino > On Oct 21, 2022, at 11:50 AM, John Gilmore wrote: > > Alexandre Petrescu wrote: >> it might make sense to try to make IPv6 to be quantum resistant. > > Relax, have no fear. Both IPv4 and IPv6 are already fully buzzword > compliant. They are climate change compatible

Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion - quantum resistant IPv6

2022-10-21 Thread John Gilmore
Alexandre Petrescu wrote: > it might make sense to try to make IPv6 to be quantum resistant. Relax, have no fear. Both IPv4 and IPv6 are already fully buzzword compliant. They are climate change compatible, quantum resistant, neutral to positive in political correctness, forward-looking to 5G,

Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion - quantum resistant IPv6

2022-10-21 Thread Joel Halpern
I am unable to parse the statement below as written.  I presume I am missing something that is clear to the writer. I can understand asking that IKE(v3?) and IPSEC ESP be upgraded to support quantum resistant algorithms.  As I understand it, the security community is doing that.  if there are

Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion - quantum resistant IPv6

2022-10-21 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
In this addressing discussion, I was thinking, thanks to a private conversation with experts from a manufacturer, that it might make sense to try to make IPv6 to be quantum resistant. One might think IPv6 has nothing to do with it, but one should consider the security aspects of IPv6 (IPsec, some

Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion

2022-10-19 Thread Luigi IANNONE
Hi All, I think that we are all a bit busy before the cut-off date next Monday. Let’s have a chat on the addressing and the framework mentioned in the email thread during 115 IETF in London. We need to understand what is feasible and, more importantly, if we have the energy to do it. Let’s mee

Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion

2022-10-07 Thread Luigi IANNONE
I am available to contribute. Bob [LI] Awesome :-) ___ Int-area mailing list Int-area@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area

Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion

2022-10-07 Thread Luigi IANNONE
Hi Robert, A couple of comments inline. From: Int-area On Behalf Of Robert Moskowitz Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2022 17:37 To: Jens Finkhaeuser ; Luigi Iannone Cc: int-area Subject: Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion On 9/30/22 05:20, Jens Finkhaeuser wrote: Hi all, since I

Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion

2022-10-07 Thread Luigi IANNONE
Hi Roland, Please, see inline. > -Original Message- > From: Int-area On Behalf Of Bless, Roland (TM) > Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2022 13:03 > To: int-area@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion > > Hi Luigi, > > sorry, I mess

Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion

2022-10-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz
*Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion Sorry, Fred, I responded quickly and did not include Aero.  But then my analysis of it is still weak.  I need to dig deeper into it. On 10/6/22 16:20, Templin (US), Fred L wrote: >Can we actually produce some wider rang

Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion

2022-10-06 Thread Templin (US), Fred L
here is called: “AERO”. From: Robert Moskowitz [mailto:rgm-i...@htt-consult.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2022 1:42 PM To: Templin (US), Fred L ; Jens Finkhaeuser ; Luigi Iannone Cc: int-area Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion Sorry, Fred, I responded

Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion

2022-10-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz
ect:* Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion On 9/30/22 05:20, Jens Finkhaeuser wrote: Hi all, since I found myself contributing to the draft, it should be obvious that I'm interested in continuing. I think the proposed steps make a lot of sense. It should be

Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion

2022-10-06 Thread Templin (US), Fred L
ert Moskowitz Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2022 8:37 AM To: Jens Finkhaeuser ; Luigi Iannone Cc: int-area Subject: Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion On 9/30/22 05:20, Jens Finkhaeuser wrote: Hi all, since I found myself contributing to the draft, it should be obvious that I'm inter

Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion

2022-10-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 9/30/22 05:20, Jens Finkhaeuser wrote: Hi all, since I found myself contributing to the draft, it should be obvious that I'm interested in continuing. I think the proposed steps make a lot of sense. It should be fairly obvious that the distinction between identifiers and locators alone

Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion

2022-10-06 Thread Bless, Roland (TM)
October 2022 18:08 To: Luigi Iannone; int-area Subject: Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion Hi Luigi, a related question would also be: how much addressing semantics/context is required for performing (a) the forwarding and/or (b) the routing decision inside a node? Excellent questions

Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion

2022-10-06 Thread Bless, Roland (TM)
Hi Luigi, see inline. On 05.10.22 at 10:14 Luigi IANNONE wrote: -Original Message- From: Int-area On Behalf Of Bless, Roland (TM) Sent: Tuesday, 4 October 2022 18:08 To: Luigi Iannone; int-area Subject: Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion Hi Luigi, a related question

Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion

2022-10-05 Thread Luigi IANNONE
Hi Roland > -Original Message- > From: Int-area On Behalf Of Bless, Roland (TM) > Sent: Tuesday, 4 October 2022 18:08 > To: Luigi Iannone ; int-area > Subject: Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion > > Hi Luigi, > > a related question would als

Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion

2022-10-04 Thread Bless, Roland (TM)
Hi Luigi, a related question would also be: how much addressing semantics/context is required for performing (a) the forwarding and/or (b) the routing decision inside a node? Regards,  Roland On 30.09.22 at 10:36 Luigi Iannone wrote: Hi All, During the last INTArea meeting the discussion on

Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion

2022-10-04 Thread Luigi IANNONE
Hi Jens, A few comments inline. From: Int-area On Behalf Of Jens Finkhaeuser Sent: Friday, 30 September 2022 11:21 To: Luigi Iannone Cc: int-area Subject: Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion Hi all, since I found myself contributing to the draft, it should be obvious that I&#

Re: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion

2022-09-30 Thread Jens Finkhaeuser
Hi all, since I found myself contributing to the draft, it should be obvious that I'm interested in continuing. I think the proposed steps make a lot of sense. It should be fairly obvious that the distinction between identifiers and locators alone helps distinguish between what and how, but th