Hi All,

Hope you are having a great IETF week.
Just a small reminder for those that are interested in talking about 
addressing, let’s meet 18h30 this evening @ registration desk.

Ciao

L.

From: Luigi IANNONE
Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2022 16:24
To: 'Luigi Iannone' <g...@gigix.net>; int-area <int-area@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion

Hi All,

I think that we are all a bit busy before the cut-off date next Monday.
Let’s have a chat on the  addressing and the framework mentioned in the email 
thread during 115 IETF in London.
We need to understand what is feasible and, more importantly, if we have the 
energy to do it.

Let’s meet Thursday November 10Th at 18:30 (London Time) at the registration 
desk and find a place to seat and discuss a bit.
If you plan to come consider drop me a private email, just to have a sense of 
the size of the place we need.

See you in London

Ciao

L.



From: Int-area <int-area-boun...@ietf.org<mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org>> On 
Behalf Of Luigi Iannone
Sent: Friday, 30 September 2022 10:36
To: int-area <int-area@ietf.org<mailto:int-area@ietf.org>>
Subject: [Int-area] Rebooting Addressing Discussion

Hi All,

During the last INTArea meeting the discussion on the two drafts related to 
Internet addressing had three the clear outcomes:
1.       The issue seems to go beyond what the INTArea has been chartered for.
2.       The pain points (aka the problem) have to be scoped in a better way. 
In the current form, the scope is so broad that we risk ending up trying to 
boil the ocean without achieving any relevant result.
3.       Incremental deployability remains a MUST. No revolution. Evolution is 
the only option.

Concerning point 1. The documents have been taken out from INTArea (new 
naming). We still continue the discussion on the INTArea mailing list, at least 
temporarily with the option to have a dedicated mailing list in the future.

I would like to restart discuss on point 2: the scope.

The considerations draft 
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iannone-internet-addressing-considerations/)
 highlighted three properties, namely:
Property 1: Fixed Address Length
Property 2: Ambiguous Address Semantic
Property 3: Limited Address Semantic Support

But before going to the discussion of which property we should/want change the 
first question the comes up is: what does an address identify exactly?

A simple answer would be: an Interface.

But we all know that reality is far more complex, as pointed out with the many 
existing examples in the considerations draft.
What is even more complex is how to provide a wealth of answers to the above 
question within a framework for evolved addressing that does not rely on the 
continued point-wise approach we see in the Internet today.

In order to start specifying what this evolved addressing framework could be, 
the first steps are:
-          paraphrasing Lixia Zhang’s question from the recent RTG WG interim 
meeting as “What should we identify through an address?”
-          scope the work around those answers we believe are most desirable to 
avoid the boiling the ocean issue

Do you believe this is a reasonable approach to move forward?

Luigi
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