Hi John,
> Should we consider clarifying the IPv6 specs to state that routers and
> end-user nodes will send ICMP packet-too-big responses when receiving a
> too-big packet *OF ANY SIZE* which they can't forward onto the next
> interface due to an MTU limit? (Or which the end node can't process
>
I understood that. I just don't see the benefit.
We have a host. It is assembling data to send. It is doing so
progressively.
It can either send in nice sized pieces (9K? 64K) as it has the data and
everything flows so that the receiver can process the data in pieces.
Or it can wait until
Joel, what you may be missing is that we are introducing a new layer in
the Internet architecture known as the Adaptation Layer - that layer that
logically resides between L3 and L2. Remember AAL5? it is kind of like that,
except over heterogeneous Internetworks instead of over a switched fabric
wi
Tom, I missed this from your previous message:
> > Actually, my assertion wasn't good to begin with because for IPv6 even if
> > UDP
> > checksums are turned off the OMNI encapsulation layer includes a checksum
> > that ensures the integrity of the IPv6 header. UDP checksums off for IPv6
> > whe
On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 7:27 AM Templin (US), Fred L
wrote:
>
> Tom - see below:
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tom Herbert [mailto:t...@herbertland.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 6:22 AM
> > To: Templin (US), Fred L
> > Cc: Eggert, Lars ; int-area ;
> > l...@eggert.org
> >
Tom - see below:
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Herbert [mailto:t...@herbertland.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 6:22 AM
> To: Templin (US), Fred L
> Cc: Eggert, Lars ; int-area ;
> l...@eggert.org
> Subject: Re: [Int-area] IP Parcels improves performance for end systems
>
> On
On Wed, Mar 23, 2022, 9:54 AM Templin (US), Fred L <
fred.l.temp...@boeing.com> wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tom Herbert [mailto:t...@herbertland.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 6:19 AM
> > To: Templin (US), Fred L
> > Cc: Eggert, Lars ; int-area@ietf.org;
Hi Tom,
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Herbert [mailto:t...@herbertland.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 6:19 AM
> To: Templin (US), Fred L
> Cc: Eggert, Lars ; int-area@ietf.org; l...@eggert.org
> Subject: Re: [Int-area] IP Parcels improves performance for end systems
>
> On Tue
Tom,
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Herbert [mailto:t...@herbertland.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 1:47 PM
> To: Robinson, Herbie
> Cc: Templin (US), Fred L ; int-area@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Int-area] [EXTERNAL] Re: IP Parcels improves performance for
>
On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:40 AM Robinson, Herbie
wrote:
>
> > The nice thing about TSO/GSO/GRO is that they don't require any
> > changes to the protocol as just implementation techniques, also
> > they're one sided opitmizations meaning for instance that TSO can be
> > used at the sender without
> The nice thing about TSO/GSO/GRO is that they don't require any
> changes to the protocol as just implementation techniques, also
> they're one sided opitmizations meaning for instance that TSO can be
> used at the sender without requiring GRO to be used at the receiver.
> My understanding is tha
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Toerless Eckert [mailto:t...@cs.fau.de]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2022 7:53 AM
> > > To: Templin (US), Fred L
> > > Cc: Tom Herbert ; to...@strayalpha.com;
> > > int-area@ietf.org
> >
On Tue, Feb 01, 2022 at 08:14:08PM +, Templin (US), Fred L wrote:
> > Section 5 of draft-templin-intarea-parcels-06 reads as if there is a
> > mandatory
> > dependency against draft-templin-6man-omni.
> > Q1: Is that true ? If not, then i must be overlooking a description how
> > parcels woul
Hi Toerless, thanks for these questions and see below for responses:
> -Original Message-
> From: Toerless Eckert [mailto:t...@cs.fau.de]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2022 10:29 AM
> To: Templin (US), Fred L
> Cc: Tom Herbert ; to...@strayalpha.com;
> int-area@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [I
Yes, that is fair Dino - I should have been more respectful in addressing Tom's
points. I will try to do better from my side of things.
Thanks - Fred
> -Original Message-
> From: Dino Farinacci [mailto:farina...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 6:36 AM
> To: Templin (US), Fre
>
>
> The world is not just TCP anymore. QUIC and other UDP-based transports
> have already
>
> shown performance increases using facilities like GSO/GRO which are
> essentially a short
>
> term and non-standard implementation of what parcels promise to do in the
> long term.
>
Fred,
Can you expl
Joe, I will do my best to respond to your points in the following top posts;
you may not
like it but it is the best I can do:
- You still haven’t shown any evidence that end systems need to do all this
extra work so they can somehow run faster, nor that this will be noticeably
faster than large
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