benjamin wrote:
I've not seen any bus stop names painted in English. You
are not insinuating that "English" is written in Kannada...;)
if you insists, try these pictures :-)
Lol. Reminds me of this: http://xkcd.com/386
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On 01-Jul-08, at 2:11 PM, Senthil Mohan Murugaiyan wrote:
Amen.
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Aditya M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:00 PM, S
On 01-Jul-08, at 1:56 PM, benjamin wrote:
I've not seen any bus stop names painted in English. You
are not insinuating that "English" is written in Kannada...;)
if you insists, try these pictures :-)
am forwarding all these pictures to vatal nagaraj for immediate
action ;-)
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Amen.
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Aditya M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Senthil Mohan Murugaiyan <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Not strange at all. I've lived in Bangalore from 1999 uptil 2002. I visit
> > bangalore once in a couple of months, after that.
> Perhaps there is a confusion between stop names on the buses itself and the
> names of the stops as written on the bus-stop shelters!
Yes. Indeed. I am referring to the latter.
stop names on the buses:
Only Volvo AC and other BIA Airport buses have the stop names in English.
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> This is getting rather frivolous. Lets end it!
>
That too on a hijacked thread!
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I've not seen any bus stop names painted in English. You
> are not insinuating that "English" is written in Kannada...;)
if you insists, try these pictures :-)
Koramangala
http://www.flickr.com/photos/amuino/2610003065/
CMH Road in Indra Nagar
http://www.flickr.com/photos/clickitaway/775017964/
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Senthil Mohan Murugaiyan <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not strange at all. I've lived in Bangalore from 1999 uptil 2002. I visit
> bangalore once in a couple of months, after that. And, I usually stay
> either
> in Koramangala
> or in Indira Nagar. I've not seen any
Not strange at all. I've lived in Bangalore from 1999 uptil 2002. I visit
bangalore once in a couple of months, after that. And, I usually stay either
in Koramangala
or in Indira Nagar. I've not seen any bus stop names painted in English. You
are not insinuating that "English" is written in Kannada
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Senthil Mohan Murugaiyan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been in Bangalore multiple times in the recent past and I dont think
> I've seen any of the bus stop names written in English.
Strange! When I was the last time you came to Bangalore? I live in
Bangalore si
I've been in Bangalore multiple times in the recent past and I dont think
I've seen any of the bus stop names written in English.
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 12:08 PM, benjamin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Do you really think bus stop names are written in "English" in Bangalore
>
> Yes. They are
>
> Do you really think bus stop names are written in "English" in Bangalore
Yes. They are.
benjamin
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Senthil Mohan Murugaiyan wrote:
Do you really think bus stop names are written in "English" in Bangalore
(or) Hyderabad (or) for that matter in the NCR? I dont think so.
I know it's not the point, but just to be sure, please check the next
time you visit Hyderabad, all the bus stop names will
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Arun Tejasvi Chaganty <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I also find that these days, it's so much easier to pass off without
> those core CS elements; there are almost always libraries that do what
> you want to do. With them, it just takes a little presence of mind a
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Parthan SR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I have another question. A lot of people employed in Y domain are actually
> from other domains, especially in India's IT companies we have more people
> from Electronics, Electrical, Mechanical, Production, Civil put togeth
On 6/30/08, Senthil Mohan Murugaiyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bombay is different because of the fact that some huge percentage of the
> >population in that city is from outside maharashtra and hence all things
> "English" >is a given.
I haven't seen a single bus stop in bombay that display
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Vamsee Kanakala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
>
>> the biggest hindrance to Tamil medium students is that they are afraid of
>> people making fun of them for trying to learn english. An atmosphere created
>> by politicians who keep insisting
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
the biggest hindrance to Tamil medium students is that they are afraid
of people making fun of them for trying to learn english. An
atmosphere created by politicians who keep insisting that Tamil be
medium of instruction (while making sure that their
children/grandchil
Mr. Ramadoss
Hats off to you.
Rewards & Regards to you
s.mahalingam
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To: ILUG-C
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:47:33 +0530
Subject: Re: [Ilugc] [OT] self taught programmers vs programm
On 30-Jun-08, at 10:30 AM, Mano wrote:
thats inspiring.. :-)
Jeyakesavan Veerasamy, a big name in CS research now, was from a tamil
medium school. During the first few months in college he was always
found with a speak english in 30 days kind of book - without a care to
the fun the rest of u
On 6/29/08, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> it is not at all OT - just a reflection of the difference between FOSS
> which is the home of the self taught type, and proprietary which is the home
> of the other type.
>
> is it because FOSS 'teachers' never bothered or didn't have
On Monday 30 Jun 2008, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On 29-Jun-08, at 9:11 PM, Sri Ramadoss M wrote:
> >> this is my experience also - specifically how many people who come
> >> from
> >> tamil medium (substitute any other Indian language) can write a
> >> coherent
> >> page of matter in their mother
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Sri Ramadoss M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> not true - if they have talent they will succeed - I know hundreds of
>> europeans whose mother tongue is not english and many Indians
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> not true - if they have talent they will succeed - I know hundreds of
> europeans whose mother tongue is not english and many Indians whose mother
> tongue is not english and who have succeeded. Dont forget, germans
On 29-Jun-08, at 9:11 PM, Sri Ramadoss M wrote:
this is my experience also - specifically how many people who come
from
tamil medium (substitute any other Indian language) can write a
coherent
page of matter in their mother tongue? I have taught many people
whose
written english was misera
> It depends on the requirements. I would look for solid computer science
> fundamentals which includes a very good knowledge of data structures,
> different programming paradigms, the ability to analyse space and time order
> complexities etc. Self-taught programmers may become very good at some
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> this is my experience also - specifically how many people who come from
> tamil medium (substitute any other Indian language) can write a coherent
> page of matter in their mother tongue? I have taught many people wh
Kumar Appiah who is the latest Deb Developer from Chennai is also a EEE.
Most legends of the day were EEE grads too. CS and IT are relatively new. It
takes passion. Nothing more, nothing less
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On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Kapil Hari Paranjape
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wrote:
Hello,
We are seriously OT here!
I agree its a response to a OT and hence is a OT. :-)
it is not at all OT - just a reflection of the difference between
On 29-Jun-08, at 7:56 PM, Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote:
Having taught American students who struggle to express simple logical
statements in English (American) and Bengali students who have exactly
the same difficulties --- I can assure you that it is the lack of
ability to think logically (in th
On 29-Jun-08, at 7:51 PM, Prashanth Mohan wrote:
The confrontation between teaching and research is (IMNSHO) entirely
artificial.
I don't think there is a confrontation at all. I was merely responding
to KG's comment that the emphasis is on training students to
use/develop with a tool rather
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Kapil Hari Paranjape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Hello,
>
> We are seriously OT here!
>
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We are seriously OT here!
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008, Sri Ramadoss M wrote:
> I have seen lot of talents, among my friends who would have been great
> people in research etc., but unfortunately research is confined and
> recognized only in one language, vastly :-(
I have seen good research using
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Kapil Hari Paranjape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The confrontation between teaching and research is (IMNSHO) entirely
> artificial.
I don't think there is a confrontation at all. I was merely responding
to KG's comment that the emphasis is on training students to
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Prashanth Mohan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
>
> One of the reasons for this is that most of the universities in India
> are Teaching Institutions rather than Research Institutions. By
> steering the Indian academi
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008, Prashanth Mohan wrote:
> One of the reasons for this is that most of the universities in India
> are Teaching Institutions rather than Research Institutions.
Really? I thought they were assembly lines for creating certificate
holders! ;-)
The confrontation between teaching a
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 28-Jun-08, at 9:11 PM, Raman.P wrote:
>
>>> populates your RAM with most of the basics. With that
>>> foundation you
>>> can leverage the internet to solve bigger problems.
>>>
>> Unfortunately in todays education
On 28-Jun-08, at 9:11 PM, Raman.P wrote:
populates your RAM with most of the basics. With that
foundation you
can leverage the internet to solve bigger problems.
Unfortunately in todays education it is like RAM - temporary -
vanishes when switched off i.e when exams are over.
I have yet to
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Shakthi Kannan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> You can use the same argument to state that CS/IT peers will do well
> in other engineering fields in the Industry. Vomiting of answers, or
> percentage of marks does not count in the Industry (bureaucracy is an
> e
--- On Fri, 27/6/08, Mano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My take:
>
> Wikipedia, google et al are like a HDD - with very very
> large seek
> times. To get any useful work done (by taking decisions in
> real time)
> you have to have the stuff in RAM - on demand! A college
> education
> populates you
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 2:06 AM, Arun Khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Saturday 28 Jun 2008, Arun Khan wrote:
>
>> Application of Mind (AoM) is of prime importance in any job.
>> Degree(s) and knowledge without AoM is worthless. I had no choice
>> but to let go 4 such individuals in the last 1
On Friday 27 Jun 2008, Mano wrote:
> Would you allow a person operate on you by consulting Wikipedia ;-)
> or would you prefer one whose RAM has been crammed with 8 years of
> college education and hands on experience.
IMO, specific to practice of medicine, this opens a can of different
worms.
On Saturday 28 Jun 2008, Arun Khan wrote:
> Application of Mind (AoM) is of prime importance in any job.
> Degree(s) and knowledge without AoM is worthless. I had no choice
> but to let go 4 such individuals in the last 18 months.
>
> -- Arun Khan
Want to add one more thing. I have worked for
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Arun Khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Friday 27 Jun 2008, benjamin wrote:
>> If you are an employer, whom would you hire?
>> http://greatjustice.info/university-versus-self-taught/
>>
>> Who Needs a Computer Science Degree When There's Wikipedia?
>> http://www.
On Friday 27 Jun 2008, benjamin wrote:
> If you are an employer, whom would you hire?
> http://greatjustice.info/university-versus-self-taught/
>
> Who Needs a Computer Science Degree When There's Wikipedia?
> http://www.geeknews.net/2008/06/21/who-needs-a-computer-science-degre
>e-when-theres-wiki
Hello,
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008, Shakthi Kannan wrote:
> I would prefer to work with people who have their basics (or
> fundamental know-how) set right - whether it comes from college
> education or experience, doesn't really matter.
I think we would all agree with this. The "fundas" must be OK.
The
Hi,
My thoughts below:
--- On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Parthan SR
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I somehow feel non-CS or non-IT have been
| more successful with IT jobs than their CS/IT peers.
\--
You can use the same argument to state that CS/IT peers will do well
in other engineering fiel
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Parthan SR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I have another question. A lot of people employed in Y domain are actually
> from other domains, especially in India's IT companies we have more people
> from Electronics, Electrical, Mechanical, Production, Civil put togeth
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 1:20 PM, benjamin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If you are an employer, whom would you hire?
http://greatjustice.info/university-versus-self-taught?
I have another question. A lot of people employed in Y domain are
actually from other domains, especially in India's IT compa
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 1:20 PM, benjamin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you are an employer, whom would you hire?
> http://greatjustice.info/university-versus-self-taught/
>
> Who Needs a Computer Science Degree When There's Wikipedia?
> http://www.geeknews.net/2008/06/21/who-needs-a-computer-sci
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 1:20 PM, benjamin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you are an employer, whom would you hire?
> http://greatjustice.info/university-versus-self-taught/
>
> Who Needs a Computer Science Degree When There's Wikipedia?
>
> http://www.geeknews.net/2008/06/21/who-needs-a-computer-
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 1:20 PM, benjamin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you are an employer, whom would you hire?
> http://greatjustice.info/university-versus-self-taught/
>
In India-
* Students going to universities choose CS degree because they can have a
better career (of course there will
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 1:20 PM, benjamin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you are an employer, whom would you hire?
> http://greatjustice.info/university-versus-self-taught/
I would hire someone who has mastered the theory and fundamentals
at a university and then focused his/her own effort in ada
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