Re: [Ietf-dkim] Chartering update

2023-02-02 Thread Tim Wicinski
On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 5:07 PM Michael Thomas wrote: > > On 2/2/23 8:22 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > > Colleagues, > > > > The IESG is prepared to approve the charter overall. There was one > > blocking point about publishing the problem statement, which is that > > the IESG would like that

Re: [Ietf-dkim] Chartering update

2023-02-02 Thread Tim Wicinski
wrote: > > On 2/2/23 2:16 PM, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 5:07 PM Michael Thomas wrote: > >> >> So here is what sticks in my craw. I think I brought up the problem >> statement, but maybe somebody else did before me. It's easy to s

Re: [Ietf-dkim] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-crocker-dkim-replay-00.txt

2023-03-09 Thread Tim Wicinski
Dave Thanks for publishing this. So we (as the working group) have two problem statement drafts to read and consider. Wonderful! I'm going to do my reading of both (as I hope all will), but it would be useful to the working group if the authors could perhaps summarize the differences between th

Re: [Ietf-dkim] DKIM signature algorithms

2023-03-11 Thread Tim Wicinski
I need to agree with Scott here. In the DNS world, we're slow to adopt new DNSSEC crypto algorithms due to speed of deployment. And DNSSEC has been around so long we have been giving guidance telling people to stop using DSA and MD5. ed25119 should be more than fine, and others can be added if the

Re: [Ietf-dkim] Moving forward - from the chairs

2023-04-10 Thread Tim Wicinski
Normally calls for adoptions are two weeks, and while we have had some strong discussions, I would rather not close it out early and have anyone speak ill. But Barry's comments about the document being a starting point should hold true for everyone. tim On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 2:24 PM Scott Ki

Re: [Ietf-dkim] Moving forward - from the chairs

2023-04-10 Thread Tim Wicinski
When chairs trigger a state change, you can set "Expected weeks in state" but it is usually left blank. Tim Has pushed all the datatracker buttons On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 2:40 PM Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 11:24 AM Scott Kitterman > wrote: > >> On Monday, April 10, 20

Re: [Ietf-dkim] Moving forward - from the chairs

2023-04-10 Thread Tim Wicinski
f Laura would double check my work) tim On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 2:42 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > When chairs trigger a state change, you can set "Expected weeks in state" > but it is usually left blank. > > Tim > Has pushed all the datatracker buttons > > On Mon, A

Re: [Ietf-dkim] Call for adoption

2023-04-11 Thread Tim Wicinski
Hi To make this complete the chairs will close the call for adoption on Friday 14 April 2023. This will most likely be early UTC based on my timetable. Please make any comments about the document, we (me) will attempt to summarize constructive comments. I hope this works for everyone thanks t

Re: [Ietf-dkim] Moving forward - from the chairs

2023-04-12 Thread Tim Wicinski
On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 3:21 AM Scott Kitterman wrote: > > > > Thanks. It wasn't clear to me what the duration of the call is. I'm less > interested in when it ends than that the end date be defined and known to > the working group. > > > Scott K > > Scott I've sent a follow up to Laura's Call

Re: [Ietf-dkim] Call for adoption

2023-04-14 Thread Tim Wicinski
All The Call for adoption for draft-chuang-dkim-replay-problem has ended, and we are adopting the work, knowing this is a starting place. I've contacted the authors about a newly named document; and I am working on summarizing the emails from the adoption call; *and* I am looking to put the docum

[Ietf-dkim] Fwd: dkim - Not having a session at IETF 117

2023-06-09 Thread Tim Wicinski
re on this coming. tim -- Forwarded message - From: IETF Meeting Session Request Tool Date: Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 1:24 PM Subject: dkim - Not having a session at IETF 117 To: Cc: , , , < tjw.i...@gmail.com> Tim Wicinski, a chair of the dkim working group, indicated that

Re: [Ietf-dkim] Call for adoption results: draft-ietf-dkim-replay-problem Adopted

2023-08-01 Thread Tim Wicinski
Problem Statements may be published but are more importantly considered working documents with consensus from the working group. We should get more "what didn't work" - people should send text ! tim On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 12:01 PM Dave Crocker wrote: > On 8/1/2023 8:56 AM, Barry Leiba wrote:

Re: [Ietf-dkim] Proposals for tolerating mailing list modifications

2023-08-04 Thread Tim Wicinski
Michael Actually it appears draft-chuang-replay-resistant-arc is listed in the charter (I had to check for myself). We can have the larger ARC discussion but I'll want to talk to Murray and Laura on that also. tim On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 2:27 PM Michael Thomas wrote: > > On 8/4/23 11:12 AM, W

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Topic reminder

2024-11-20 Thread Tim Wicinski
ecause the IETF has this thing on Best Practice documents) ## Milestones * Design Overview * Proposed Mechanism * some period of time for interop testing * profit On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:47 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > Jim/Murray, > > Thanks for reminding some of us of the link. Chart

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Topic reminder

2024-11-20 Thread Tim Wicinski
Jim/Murray, Thanks for reminding some of us of the link. Charter writing can be a bit specialized but the IESG has tried to simplify the process for new working groups. I do have some thoughts on text - mostly editorial. - should have section headers for "Background", "Objectives", "Deliverables

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Proposed Charter - try 2

2024-11-27 Thread Tim Wicinski
Dave On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 7:15 PM Dave Crocker wrote: > On 11/21/2024 1:21 AM, Bron Gondwana wrote: > > I have made a second pass at it. Text below, or see the raw copy at: > > https://notes.ietf.org/YGynIPpYS7yqg5G7ZeSQeA > > > Summary: > >- As provided, this is an extremely broad and

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Proposed charter; take 3

2024-12-30 Thread Tim Wicinski
Hi I think V3 is worth having the IESG work over. I made one small change s/intended to them as recipients/intended them as recipients/ tim On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 9:31 PM Bron Gondwana wrote: > Based on Dave and Murray's comments in particular, here's another take! > > Key Changes: > >

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Proposed Charter - try 2

2024-12-11 Thread Tim Wicinski
Murray On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 4:59 PM Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > I've uploaded the charter text at the top of this thread to the tracker > (not the one from 11/27 yet). I wanted to do another round trip on some of > Dave's points. > > I am not concerned with milestones yet. The text is far

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Proposed Charter - try 2

2024-11-21 Thread Tim Wicinski
Bron Thanks for listening to my half baked ideas. Some small tweaks can be taken for what they are worth. But this feels like the right balance - I vote for ship it to the IESG and let them soil it. tim On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 4:22 AM Bron Gondwana wrote: > Thanks to all of you for great fe