Bron

Thanks for listening to my half baked ideas.  Some small tweaks can be
taken for what they are worth.

But this feels like the right balance - I vote for ship it to the IESG and
let them soil it.

tim


On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 4:22 AM Bron Gondwana <brong=
40fastmailteam....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> Thanks to all of you for great feedback on the first charter -
> particularly to Dave and Tim!
>
> I have made a second pass at it.  Text below, or see the raw copy at:
>
> https://notes.ietf.org/YGynIPpYS7yqg5G7ZeSQeA
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bron.
> DKIM2 Draft Charter
> Background
> Emails often flow indirectly through multiple systems, undergoing
> redirection, expansion into multiple copies via aliases and mailing lists,
> as well as rewriting and filtering before eventually arriving at a mailbox
> or being processed by a receiving software agent.
>
> DKIM gives us a way to detect that the content of a message was not
> altered between the signing domain and its eventual destination. Several
> attempts have been made to address the issues that arise with with
>

s/us/message systems/  (or something more neutral than 'us')

s/arise with with/arise with/  <- fixed in raw copy


alterations made by intermediate systems. For various reasons, these
> technologies have failed to provide the information to reliably distinguish
> between legitimate mail, and replay or alteration of messages by bad actors.
>
> Objectives
> This working group will take a holistic approach to the underlying
> problems of alterations, error handling, and trust relationships between
> the systems involved in handling an email - from its inception to arrival
> at its final destination.
>

s/problems of alterations/problems of message alterations/


> The working group will use the mechanisms of DKIM as a basis, extending
> and modifying them to solve problems that have been identified in
> real-world usage.
>
> It will be necessary for any new design to work in parallel with the
> existing mechanisms, and have a clean upgrade path.
>

s/clean/clear/ ?

>
> To achieve its goals, this work requires a wide scope. The design may
> supersede, modify, or replace many parts of the current email
> infrastructure and associated reporting mechanisms - while retaining the
> ability to support the same use-cases.
>

"same use-cases" - could this be "existing use-cases"?



> Deliverables
> To gain widespread adoption, it is expected that proposals will be tested
> during the development of specifications. The working group will favor
> designs that have been tested for interoperability at scale.
>

s/proposals/proposed solutions/



> This working group will produce multiple documents, at least:
>
>
>    - A overview document describing the problem area and proposed
>    mechanism (informational)
>    - One or more documents on implementation of the mechanism (standards
>    track)
>    - A guide for implementation during the changeover period, in which
>    interoperability with existing mechanisms needs to be maintained
>    (informational)
>
> This working group will also liaise with the DMARC working group on adding
> this as a recognised authentication mechanism.
>
> Milestones
>
>    - WG Formation: Dec 2024
>    - Overview document: Jan 2025
>    - Mechinism document draft(s): Mar 2025
>
>
s/Mechinism/Mechanism/  <- fixed in raw copy

>
>    -
>    - Experiments and drafts: Apr 2025 - Nov 2025
>    - Implementation guide: Nov 2025
>    - Publish documents as a group: Dec 2025
>
>
>
These dates are too tight but that's for others.  What we do want to say is
that the problem overview document be adopted etc by some date.


tim


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