[Ietf-dkim] Re: ELI5: DKIM2 and DMARC

2025-03-27 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Wed 26/Mar/2025 20:09:33 +0100 Richard Clayton wrote: In message , Alessandro Vesely writes On Mon 24/Mar/2025 20:19:29 +0100 Richard Clayton wrote: Of course, If I trust the signer of the last signature, it would be fine to check only that. Bat that would be too similar to ARC... you

[Ietf-dkim] Re: ELI5: DKIM2 and DMARC

2025-03-27 Thread Michael Thomas
On 3/27/25 10:35 AM, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: Michael Thomas wrote in <9fa3835f-4991-4fa9-b6e2-1859aa66e...@mtcc.com>: |On 3/26/25 12:09 PM, Richard Clayton wrote: |> It's not a question of hardness -- if you check more signatures than you |> need to then you are heating up the planet unn

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Header Signing Strawman

2025-03-27 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Wed 26/Mar/2025 17:31:54 +0100 Wei Chuang wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 9:08 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: Hmm... Delivered-To: doesn't seem to be a significant element. [...] It's meant to be illustrative of some header updates during forwarding where someone e.g. a mailing list may care

[Ietf-dkim] Re: The DKIM WG has placed draft-gondwana-dkim2-modification-alegbra in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

2025-03-27 Thread Pete Resnick
On 21 Mar 2025, at 23:27, Michael Thomas wrote: I think that this and the "header" draft would be better if they were combined and far more fleshed out before the wg should adopt them. Can you expand on this? They don't seem inseparable to me. This seems really premature. Note that we have

[Ietf-dkim] Re: ELI5: DKIM2 and DMARC

2025-03-27 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Mon 24/Mar/2025 19:21:23 +0100 Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: On Mon, Mar 24, 2025 at 10:53 AM Michael Thomas wrote: Out of curiosity would, say, a mailing list that breaks the original signature but signs on the mailing list's behalf count as "signed"? At some level DKIM is about taking respo

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Header vs. Header Field

2025-03-27 Thread Dave Crocker
On 3/26/2025 7:28 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: A terminology nit, but it's going to come up in the future so I'd like to put it out there early before we have a big re-editing job to do: In practical  terms, people do not say header field. But the spec does.  And always has.  For a very lon