[Ietf-dkim] Re: Proposed Charter - try 2

2024-11-27 Thread Tim Wicinski
Dave On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 7:15 PM Dave Crocker wrote: > On 11/21/2024 1:21 AM, Bron Gondwana wrote: > > I have made a second pass at it. Text below, or see the raw copy at: > > https://notes.ietf.org/YGynIPpYS7yqg5G7ZeSQeA > > > Summary: > >- As provided, this is an extremely broad and

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Proposed Charter - try 2

2024-11-27 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hiya, I read the proposed charter and briefly scanned the I-D [1]. I support going forward and creating a WG on that basis. I disagree with some things in [1] but those can be handled later. (And no, I don't have a written-down list now:-) I do not think this proposed work is research nor oug

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Proposed Charter - try 2

2024-11-27 Thread Bron Gondwana
Hi all - it looks like no other responses all week! I'm going to merge your ideas. Given there are no other comments - Murray, are we ready to take this to IESG? Updates still at: https://notes.ietf.org/YGynIPpYS7yqg5G7ZeSQeA And I've posted the whole thing at the end... >> DKIM gives us a w

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Should we be recording all modifications

2024-11-27 Thread Jim Fenton
I have some thoughts on this issue, but am holding off on commenting until the charter is settled. -Jim On 27 Nov 2024, at 13:30, Bron Gondwana wrote: I posted an updated draft for this last week with the 'z=y' case for "complex irreversible change". I am interested (yes, I know - technical

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Proposed Charter - try 2

2024-11-27 Thread Trent Adams
I like the new charter and think it effectively addresses the comments received so far. The one question I have would be whether or not the charter should explicitly call out the coordination of one or more interoperability events as deliverables... or would those activities be assumed given t

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Should we be recording all modifications

2024-11-27 Thread Bron Gondwana
I posted an updated draft for this last week with the 'z=y' case for "complex irreversible change". I am interested (yes, I know - technical questions before chartered) in how people feel about a line-based copy format rather than just the character based one. I'm thinking that because the mo

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Proposed Charter - try 2

2024-11-27 Thread Dave Crocker
On 11/21/2024 1:21 AM, Bron Gondwana wrote: I have made a second pass at it. Text below, or see the raw copy at: https://notes.ietf.org/YGynIPpYS7yqg5G7ZeSQeA Summary: * As provided, this is an extremely broad and extremely vague statement of work.  It continues to sound far more appropr

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Proposed Charter - try 2

2024-11-27 Thread Richard Clayton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message <64e2e0bf-40a2-4c8a-ad0b-6a6fe0bab...@dcrocker.net>, Dave Crocker writes >Given the considerable increase of scope for DKIM and range of >topics cited here for improvement, the charter should have a >concrete proposal to take

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Proposed Charter - try 2

2024-11-27 Thread Jan Dušátko
Bron, I read with interest the proposal published at https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-gondwana-dkim2-motivation-01.html I think it could contribute to the development, with all due respect to DKIM technology, the core approach already deserves it. But there are a few points that should be mention