IETF Chair, General Area, process and complexity

2005-08-04 Thread avri doria
Hi, in John's formulation, the process work of the general area withers away - or at least moves to a different corner of the world. so what happens to the general area? one suggestion is to axe it. my suggestion would be for that role to be staffed by a generalist who is comfortable with co

Re: Anyone not in favor of a PR-Action against Jefsey Morfin

2005-10-06 Thread Avri Doria
well said. neither am i. a. On 6 okt 2005, at 13.42, Bill Manning wrote: i for one, am not in favor of a PR action against anyone. --bill ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: On PR-actions, signatures and debate

2005-10-08 Thread Avri Doria
On 7 okt 2005, at 17.56, Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: It's just possible that the threshold might be higher for some than it is for others. So which threshold is the "right" threshold? I think that the offense has to be so egregious that invoking such draconian rules is truly a roug

Re: IETF Meeting Venue Selection Criteria

2005-10-14 Thread Avri Doria
Hi, I think there needs to be some mention of requirements such as: - MUST NOT be held in a country whose visa requirements are so stringent as to make it impossible or even extremely difficult for some participant to attend. - MUST NOT be held in a country with restrictions on freedom of

Re: IETF Meeting Venue Selection Criteria

2005-10-14 Thread Avri Doria
On 14 okt 2005, at 13.19, Jari Arkko wrote: Freedom of expression is another matter, and would be slippery slope indeed. I think in most cases we would be better off being open and constructive, and helping more people understand what our views are than to refuse contact. I agree, and that

Re: IETF Meeting Venue Selection Criteria

2005-10-14 Thread Avri Doria
recommendations. a. On 14 okt 2005, at 15.39, Bill Sommerfeld wrote: On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 11:58, Avri Doria wrote: I think there needs to be some mention of requirements such as: - MUST NOT be held in a country whose visa requirements are so stringent as to make it impossible or even

Re: IETF Meeting Venue Selection Criteria

2005-10-17 Thread Avri Doria
ted by the community. a. On 17 okt 2005, at 05.59, Sam Hartman wrote: "Avri" == Avri Doria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Avri> - MUST NOT be held in a country whose visa requirements are Avri> so stringent as to make it impossible or even extremely Avri> diffi

Re: IETF Meeting Venue Selection Criteria

2005-10-17 Thread Avri Doria
these issues be a formal requirement of the community's decision in where we meet. And that they be taken seriously. a. On 17 okt 2005, at 21.50, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Sam Hartman wrote: "Avri" == Avri Doria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Avri> - MUST NOT be

Re: from the horse's mouth

2005-10-29 Thread Avri Doria
On 29 okt 2005, at 15.40, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: Amorality among scientists, engineers, and technologists has gotten the world into a lot of trouble. I prefer to think about the consequences of what I do. I think we all do, and I think it's one of the reasons why I felt Jefs

Re: technicalities

2005-10-29 Thread Avri Doria
On 29 okt 2005, at 23.09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And Saddam had WMD, but he used them all up on the Kurds. Darn those Kurds anyway. were these the left over from the ones the US gave him for the war with Iran? a. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf

Re: technicalities - apologies - wrong list

2005-10-30 Thread Avri Doria
sorry. wrong list in address. a. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: Faux Pas -- web publication in proprietary formats at ietf.org

2005-11-05 Thread Avri Doria
On 5 nov 2005, at 02.59, Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: The advantage of PDF is that it preserves the exact appearance of the original document, and that it is designed to be a final format, that is, it is not designed to be editable (and editing PDF is difficult, deliberately so). Also, PDF read

Re: Please make sure that you do not run your WLAN in ad hoc mode

2005-11-11 Thread Avri Doria
On 11 nov 2005, at 13.56, Ole Jacobsen wrote: In 19 days, this very hotel and meeting rooms will be filled with ICANN attendees, most of whom are not "technical" in our sense of the word. That should be lots of fun :-) It will be interesting to see if ICANN has as much trouble, or IEEE

Re: On revising 3777 as in draft-klensin-recall-rev-00

2005-11-17 Thread Avri Doria
On 15 nov 2005, at 16.43, Dondeti, Lakshminath wrote:Hi Eliot, The most recent number of nomcom eligible folks is 849, please see https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/show_nomcom_message.cgi?id=446.  20 people out of that isn't all that high.  I think I might easily find 10 like-minded people; but

Re: My notes from this morning at breakfast

2006-07-11 Thread Avri Doria
On 11 jul 2006, at 09.07, Spencer Dawkins wrote: This was NOT intended for general distribution - my apologies... perhaps, but the timely transparency was refreshing. thanks for the error. a. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ie

Re: Response to the Appeal by JFC Morfin dated 2006-02-17

2006-07-11 Thread Avri Doria
Hi, I do not wish to enter the substance of this appeal for i am qualified neither by position nor training to adjudicate on the justice of an appeal. But I do want to question one paragraph that has been published on behalf of the leadership of this organization. This questioning is n

Re: Meetings in other regions

2006-07-14 Thread Avri Doria
Hi, I think I am somewhat confused by this discussion. In one place you say: On 14 jul 2006, at 11.04, Fred Baker wrote: The IETF should indeed meet where our participants come from. That was my initial comment (from the mike) on "are we from Latin America, Africa, or Antarctica?" I think

Re: Now there seems to be lack of communicaiton here...

2006-09-02 Thread Avri Doria
On 2 sep 2006, at 14.49, John C Klensin wrote: I assume that everything have been done with good faith here but, to paraphrase an off-list discussion, at least some of the community will always have a nagging fear that the reset was motivated by some members of the community believing that a se

Re: nomcom and confidentiality

2006-11-08 Thread Avri Doria
Hi, To add a tidbit. There has long been a notion of an umbrella of confidentiality in Nomcom. Which means that anyone who has, or is given access, to any of the confidential information has to agree to keep the information confidential. While I have paid very little attention t nomcom

edu.ietf.org site problems

2007-03-18 Thread Avri Doria
Hi, As several people have pointed out, we are having problems with the Edu site. I thank everyone who has reported it and wanted to let people know two things: - we are looking into the problem and will get it fixed as soon as possible - as soon as those who gave today's talks give me

Re: edu.ietf.org site problems - fixed

2007-03-19 Thread Avri Doria
Hi, the Edu Team web page (edu.ietf.org) has now been fixed and the presentations can be found both there and on the Agenda page. thanks for your patience. a. On 18 mar 2007, at 20.17, Avri Doria wrote: Hi, As several people have pointed out, we are having problems with the Edu site

Re: IPv4 Outage Planned for IETF 71 Plenary

2007-12-16 Thread Avri Doria
On 16 dec 2007, at 15.15, Ole Jacobsen wrote: I've attended meetings where we had a "closed laptop" policy during presentations, i find those authoritarian and repressive. unless there is complete unanimity in the room for such a policy it is a very bad idea. incidentally, i always feel

Re: edu.ietf.org

2008-01-05 Thread Avri Doria
hi, Yes, the database was moved to a new system and then broke. After some effort James Seng, who is kind enough to host this site has fixed it. I have tested it somewhat and added the XML tutorial. I will add the rest of the tutorial from IETF70 as soon as I can. Please let me know i

Re: IETF Sub-IP area: request for input (fwd)

2002-12-06 Thread avri doria
this was becasue the MPLS area was there. As it is a management protocol for sub-ip entities I think the best alternate placement for it is the management area. I obviously support it remaining in the permanent Sub-IP area should that be an option. a. -- Avri Doria http://www.sm.luth.se/~avri/

Sunday training classes at IETF58

2003-10-17 Thread Avri Doria
nvironment. 1330-1500 Editor's Training -- Conrad C (Avri Doria) Training for current or aspiring IETF document editors. Covers the roles and responsibilities of a document editor, and includes advice on producing a high-quality IETF specification. 1330-1500 Intro WG

Amended NomCom Volunteer Pool

1999-10-30 Thread avri . doria
. Yakov Rekhter 71. Glenn Zorn72. Rodney Thayer Chair, NomCom --- avri doria +1 617 678 9402

Re: Proposed IESG Statement on the Conclusion of Experiments

2012-04-23 Thread Avri Doria
Hi, While I find the idea of actually tracking experimentals rather inviting, I do think the overhead of such a process should definitely be part of the consideration. I find the idea of knowing when an experiment its over, challenging. For example, I am working on an experimental, albeit a

Re: Future Handling of Blue Sheets

2012-04-24 Thread Avri Doria
Hi, In reading this thread several thoughts have come to mind: - for several years I have not been able to attend an IETF mtg in person, yet always join in some of the sessions remotely. Is our remote attendance recorded as well, or its it only in the chat archive? I have noticed that not all

Re: Future Handling of Blue Sheets

2012-04-24 Thread Avri Doria
Hi, In reading this thread several thoughts have come to mind: - for several years I have not been able to attend an IETF mtg in person, yet always join in some of the sessions remotely. Is our remote attendance recorded as well, or its it only in the chat archive? I have noticed that not all

Re: Is the IETF aging?

2012-05-02 Thread Avri Doria
Hi, It may not be line a hiring manager, but all those who have budget can make it a point to make sure some of the younger engineers get to some of the meetings, at least the ones that are relatively local to them. I assume that many of the older participants, have the means to influence the

Re: Last calling draft-resnick-on-consensus

2013-10-10 Thread Avri Doria
Hi, I think this is an excellent draft and have already sent a pointer of it to colleagues in other organizations as stuff to consider. And although it has been eons since I chaired anything in the IETF, it perfectly matches my recollection of what humming and rough consensus was all about.