RE: Regarding call Chinese names

2013-07-26 Thread Leaf Yeh
Hui, I bet you are wrong this time. :-) George, Wes should be Mr. Wesley GEORGE of Time Warner Cable. Best Regards, Leaf From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hui Deng Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 8:36 AM To: George, Wes Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: Regard

Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-26 Thread Tim Chown
On 26 Jul 2013, at 07:36, Abdussalam Baryun wrote: > On 7/24/13, John C Klensin wrote: >> >> --On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 09:22 +0300 IETF Chair >> wrote: >> >>> I wanted to let you know about an experiment we are trying out >>> in Berlin. >>> ... >>> But we want as many people as possible t

RE: Regarding call Chinese names

2013-07-26 Thread Leaf Yeh
Simon - I have a question: I think I've seen Chinese names written in both orders. That is, sometimes "Hui Deng" will be written "Deng Hui". Am I right? Does this happen often? What is the most common order? To me, as a native Chinese, "Hui Deng" is written in English, while "Deng Hui" is written

RE: Regarding call Chinese names

2013-07-26 Thread Leaf Yeh
a. I suppose Mr. Leung and Mr. Tung used Wade-Giles Romanization (or system) for their name's spelling, which looks very popular outside China mainland including Hong Kong, and inside China mainland before the year of 1958 when Pinyin (Chinese phonetic alphabet) was published. b. I believe Taiwan

Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-nandakumar-rtcweb-stun-uri-05

2013-07-26 Thread Russ Housley
I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments you may receive. Document: draft-nandakumar-rtcweb-stun-uri-05 Review

IETF87 Audio Streaming Info

2013-07-26 Thread Nick Kukich
Greetings, For those interested in monitoring sessions or participating remotely the following information may prove useful. For general remote participation including Meetecho support see: http://www.ietf.org/meeting/87/remote-participation.html -Audio Streaming- All 8 parallel tracks at the

Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-26 Thread Dave Aronson
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Abdussalam Baryun wrote: > How can I access the live discuss while remote? Sheldon Cooper had a good idea: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5LKXO9aCTc that is becoming more real every day: http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyolson/2013/06/27/rise-of-the-telep

Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials (was: IETF87 Audio Streaming Info)

2013-07-26 Thread John C Klensin
Hi. For a newcomer or someone expecting to write I-Ds, some of the most important sessions at the IETF are the various Sunday afternoon tutorials and introductions. Many of them are (or should be) of as much interest to remote participants as to f2f attendees. Until and unless a newcomer's tuto

Re: Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-nandakumar-rtcweb-stun-uri-05

2013-07-26 Thread Gonzalo Salgueiro
Hi Russ - Thanks for the review. My response is inline to your only review comment... On Jul 26, 2013, at 4:32 AM, Russ Housley wrote: > I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on > Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at >

Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-26 Thread Benoit Claise
John, --On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 09:22 +0300 IETF Chair wrote: I wanted to let you know about an experiment we are trying out in Berlin. ... But we want as many people as possible to become involved in these efforts, or at least provide their feedback during the week. So we have given an o

Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-26 Thread Alexa Morris
PDFs of all received BoF posters have been uploaded to the Meeting Materials page for those who are interested: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/87/materials.html. Regards, Alexa On Jul 26, 2013, at 3:36 AM, Benoit Claise wrote: > John, >> >> --On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 09:22 +0300 IETF

Re: Regarding call Chinese names

2013-07-26 Thread Ted Hardie
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:58 AM, Leaf Yeh wrote: > a. I suppose Mr. Leung and Mr. Tung used Wade-Giles Romanization (or > system) > for their name's spelling, which looks very popular outside China mainland > including Hong Kong, and inside China mainland before the year of 1958 when > Pinyin (C

Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials (was: IETF87 Audio Streaming Info)

2013-07-26 Thread SM
Hello, At 08:32 26-07-2013, John C Klensin wrote: For this particular meeting all of the following seem relevant to at least some remote participants: [snip] with subscribing to the 87all list. It should no involve a treasure hunt at which only very experienced IETF participants can be expec

Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials

2013-07-26 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 27/07/2013 03:32, John C Klensin wrote: > Hi. > > For a newcomer or someone expecting to write I-Ds, some of the > most important sessions at the IETF are the various Sunday > afternoon tutorials and introductions. Many of them are (or > should be) of as much interest to remote participants as

Oh look! [Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials]

2013-07-26 Thread Brian E Carpenter
And there is a "Training" section in the meeting materials page. It's empty... but thanks to somebody for putting it there. All we need to do is figure out how to pre-load it. Regards Brian On 27/07/2013 08:33, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > On 27/07/2013 03:32, John C Klensin wrote: >> Hi. >> >>

dnssdext BOF (was: Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials (was: IETF87 Audio Streaming Info))

2013-07-26 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, July 26, 2013 11:29 -0700 SM wrote: > POSH has not published a session agenda. However, the BoF is > listed on the meeting agenda. Is the BoF cancelled or will > this be one of those willful violations of IETF Best Current > Practices? On a similar note, according to its agenda,

Re: dnssdext BOF (was: Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials (was: IETF87 Audio Streaming Info))

2013-07-26 Thread Tim Chown
On 26 Jul 2013, at 21:48, John C Klensin wrote: > > > --On Friday, July 26, 2013 11:29 -0700 SM > wrote: > >> POSH has not published a session agenda. However, the BoF is >> listed on the meeting agenda. Is the BoF cancelled or will >> this be one of those willful violations of IETF Best C

Re: Oh look! [Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials]

2013-07-26 Thread John C Klensin
--On Saturday, July 27, 2013 08:38 +1200 Brian E Carpenter wrote: > And there is a "Training" section in the meeting materials > page. It's empty... but thanks to somebody for putting it > there. All we need to do is figure out how to pre-load it. And to remember that link appears on the main

Re: dnssdext BOF (was: Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials (was: IETF87 Audio Streaming Info))

2013-07-26 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, July 26, 2013 22:48 +0100 Tim Chown wrote: >... >> On a similar note, according to its agenda, the core of the >> DNS-SD Extensions BOF (dnssdext) is apparently >> draft-lynn-sadnssd-requirements-01. The link from the agenda >> page [1] yields a 404 error and attempts to look up

Re: dnssdext BOF (was: Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials (was: IETF87 Audio Streaming Info))

2013-07-26 Thread Tim Chown
On 26 Jul 2013, at 23:31, John C Klensin wrote: > --On Friday, July 26, 2013 22:48 +0100 Tim Chown > wrote: >> >> That means the charter agreed from the bashing of the draft >> charter in the previous 40 minutes, not that a charter is >> already agreed. > > If there is something to be bashed f

Re: dnssdext BOF (was: Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials (was: IETF87 Audio Streaming Info))

2013-07-26 Thread John C Klensin
--On Saturday, July 27, 2013 00:37 +0100 Tim Chown wrote: >... > While we/you can try to guess what the problems are, it may be > better to surveymonkey those who registered as newcomers in a > couple of weeks and ask them about their experience, whether > they were aware of certain things, and

Re: dnssdext BOF (was: Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials (was: IETF87 Audio Streaming Info))

2013-07-26 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
If I had known this was taking place I might have made the trip to Berlin. I am very interested in the problem this tries to solve. I think it is the wrong way to go about it but I am interested in the problem. The case for having some sort of local name discovery mechanism is clear in both the e

Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials (was: IETF87 Audio Streaming Info)

2013-07-26 Thread Alejandro Acosta
On 7/26/13, John C Klensin wrote: > Hi. > > For a newcomer or someone expecting to write I-Ds, some of the > most important sessions at the IETF are the various Sunday > afternoon tutorials and introductions. Many of them are (or > should be) of as much interest to remote participants as to f2f >

Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials (was: IETF87 Audio Streaming Info)

2013-07-26 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
On 7/26/13, SM wrote: > > The consensus of the IETF is that: > >"newcomers who attend Working Group meetings are encouraged to > observe and absorb whatever material they can, but should not > interfere with the ongoing process of the group" This is bad for IETF, why no interfer from

Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials (was: IETF87 Audio Streaming Info)

2013-07-26 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
Thanks, I agree with your points/suggestions. I want to add; a) Work/Participation in IETF is remotely to run its daily business. b) Newcomers (how many we have per meeting); are always welcomed, no one in IETF have been participating for longer than 30 years, so some how could we say participant

Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials (was: IETF87 Audio Streaming Info)

2013-07-26 Thread Jari Arkko
I agree with John that audio and other things would be useful, but Brian is also correct that they do involve some work. Let us see what we can do on audio for IETF-88. Past recordings of the tutorials are available at http://www.ietf.org/edu/process-oriented-tutorials.html#newcomers. The meeti