Re: Fwd: FC: Pittsburgh politicos don't like criticism at anonymous web site

2000-07-06 Thread Jonathan Buschmann
It worked for me. "Donald E. Eastlake 3rd" wrote: > URL is typoed below. It's really www.tribune-review.com > ^ > Donald > > From: Richard Shockey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 17:51:39 -0500 > To:

RE: Is WAP mobile Internet??

2000-07-06 Thread Parkinson, Jonathan
Wellas I see it, and belive me I may be wrong 'Its been known' :-) This been the IETF talks about well Internet ... >>I disagree, WAP, Wireless Application Protocol, Its a way of transmitting >>data I.E. to and from the Web. How does this not fall under the Internet >>Umbrella ? 1 youcan't g

Re: wireless services

2000-07-06 Thread Aditya Mohan
Hi James You are certainly correct to some extent . These type of features ARE useful . I myself would like to use them. But why are you segregating these voice features with web/email/WAP?? To be more specific using WAP, we can easily incorporate these features in today's cellular phone. Rember

RE: Is WAP mobile Internet??

2000-07-06 Thread arindam . das
I have no access to WAP as it is, so far. Can see a glimpse through the Internet! Anybody who can give any suggestions however will not get a prize "Parkinson, Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 06-07-2000 03:30:32 PM To: 'Jon Crowcroft' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Is WAP mobile Internet??

2000-07-06 Thread Aditya Mohan
hi arindam try any of the WAP Emulators - from Nokia.com , phone.com etc Using that you can get the feel of the WAP world . cheers Aditya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have no access to WAP as it is, so far. Can see a glimpse through the > Internet! Anybody who can give any suggestions however w

Re: Is WAP mobile Internet??

2000-07-06 Thread Keith Moore
> Does it need to be if the Web/Wap app can handle this format? web/wap apps handle a very small number of protocols compared to the protocols that are handled by IP and used in practice. Keith

Re: Is WAP mobile Internet??

2000-07-06 Thread Joe Touch
Vernon Schryver wrote: > > > > > > think we mean having unincumbered availability of the common application > > > > > protocols, email, http, ftp, ssh, ... > > > > > > > > that's not quite enough; in the UK we're seeing cable-modem ISPs > > > > attempt to restrict services to those applications

Defining "Internet" (or "internet")

2000-07-06 Thread Eric Brunner
The Swedish legal definition (Patrik provided the pointer) may not be the only one which attempts to define what "Internet" is, fixed or broken, er, "mobile". Anyone else with a normative legal reference, your favorite jurisdiction or someone else's, please drop me a line. I'll summarize to the

Re: Is WAP mobile Internet??

2000-07-06 Thread Vernon Schryver
> From: Joe Touch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ... > > > would pacbell filtering all multicast at all CPE equipemt fall into your > > > bucket, where do you draw the line? > > At IP, as Bob Braden said. > > SMTP is _over_ IP. > > Multicast _redefines_ IP (or portions of the address space thereof); it >

RE: Is WAP mobile Internet??

2000-07-06 Thread Brijesh Kumar
Bob Braden writes: > -Original Message- > > Jon Postel would have said: If it speaks IP (UDP/TCP are not > necessary), then it's Internet, else not. I will add a bit to this discussion. 1. A WAP phone without an IP address is not an Internet device. And, no one claims so. 2. A WAP dev

Re: Is WAP mobile Internet??

2000-07-06 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake "Brijesh Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 1. A WAP phone without an IP address is not an Internet device. And, > no one claims so. The telcos who offer WAP service (at least in my town) market it as "Wireless Internet Access". They do not advertise it as "wireless application-proxy-based

Routing vs Route discovery protocol

2000-07-06 Thread Salavat R. Magazov \(BT\)
Hello I cannot understand the difference between routing and route discovery protocols. Is there any? Regards Salavat BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Magazov;Salavat;R. FN:Salavat R. Magazov NICKNAME:Sal ORG:University of Kent at Canterbury TEL;HOME;VOICE:+44-1227-472835 X-WAB-GENDER:2 BDAY:2000

Re: Is WAP mobile Internet??

2000-07-06 Thread Joe Touch
Vernon Schryver wrote: > > > From: Joe Touch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > ... > > > > would pacbell filtering all multicast at all CPE equipemt fall into your > > > > bucket, where do you draw the line? > > > > At IP, as Bob Braden said. > > > > SMTP is _over_ IP. > > > > Multicast _redefines_ IP

Re: Routing vs Route discovery protocol

2000-07-06 Thread Fyodor
~ :Hello ~ : ~ :I cannot understand the difference between routing and route discovery ~ :protocols. Is there any? Yes. RDP is designed to discover default gateway(s) by broadcasting rdp request packs. It's just a protocol, which lacks security implications by the way (see l0pht.com advisory).

Re: Is WAP mobile Internet??

2000-07-06 Thread Vernon Schryver
> From: Joe Touch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ... > > > At IP, as Bob Braden said. > > > > > > SMTP is _over_ IP. > > > > > > Multicast _redefines_ IP (or portions of the address space thereof); it > > > could be argued that a service provider sells 'Internet' without selling > > > multicast IP. > > >

Re: Is WAP mobile Internet??

2000-07-06 Thread Masataka Ohta
Joe; > > > would pacbell filtering all multicast at all CPE equipemt fall into your > > > bucket, where do you draw the line? > > At IP, as Bob Braden said. > > SMTP is _over_ IP. Wrong. RFC821 says: SMTP is independent of the particular transmission subsystem and requires only a reliab

Re: Is WAP mobile Internet??

2000-07-06 Thread Joe Touch
Masataka Ohta wrote: > > Joe; > > > > > would pacbell filtering all multicast at all CPE equipemt fall into your > > > > bucket, where do you draw the line? > > > > At IP, as Bob Braden said. > > > > SMTP is _over_ IP. > > Wrong. RFC821 says: > >SMTP is independent of the particular tran

Thanks for visiting MP3.com

2000-07-06 Thread welcome
Title: welcome   The MP3.com Welcome Email Thanks again for visiting MP3.com and providing us with your email address. If you would like to unsubscribe from future MP3.com announcements or if you received this message in error, please see the bottom of this

Re: Is WAP mobile Internet??

2000-07-06 Thread Masataka Ohta
Joe; > SMTP in the Internet is, by definition, over IP. STD1 defined only one > required reliable ordered data stream protocol - TCP. What is your point? Are you saying that, in the Internet, there is some application/transport protocols not over IP but SMTP is exclusively over IP? > > > Multi

Re: Thanks for visiting MP3.com

2000-07-06 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
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wireless services

2000-07-06 Thread James P. Salsman
Where, and by whom, is wireless service with the following features offered? 1. An option for incoming telephone calls to go directly to voicemail, transmitting spoken messages asynchronously to a buffer inside the telephone transceiver, using a reliable transport of high quality audio. Mess

RE: Defining "Internet" (or "internet")

2000-07-06 Thread TSIGARIDAS PANAGIOTIS
Title: RE: Defining "Internet" (or "internet") I found this definition in the  INTEROP Book of Carl Malamud. The Internet (note the uppercase "I') is a network infrastructure that supports reasearch, engineering, education, and commercial services. The word internet (with a lowercase "i") r