RE: IETF Adelaide and interim meetings for APPS WGs

At 09:44 PM 2/15/00 -0800, Ian King wrote: >To those of you outside the US who don't think there are enough meetings >outside the US: IF YOU SPONSOR THEM, WE WILL COME. I've seen the open, >standing invitations to sponsor meetings -- so step up and sponsor. for the record, we have quite a few

Need HELP for SNMP

Hai Everybody, I am working on SNMP , i would like to know how to start the coding for SNMP , is there any web site from where i can get an introductory material (Code) , or any books which deal with coding ? . I have read many books but most or in fact all of them deal with the theoretic

Question re: an Internet-Draft and testing/deployment

Noticed this one this morning: --- start excerpt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : Compatible Internationalized Domain Names Using Compression Author(s) : P. Hoffman Filename

Re: Question re: an Internet-Draft and testing/deployment

At 10:49 2000-02-16 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Noticed this one this morning: > >--- start excerpt >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >directories. > > > Title : Compatible Internationalized Domain Names Using > Co

Re: Internet SYN Flooding, spoofing attacks

Stephen Kent wrote: > > Eliot, > > Some of the DoS attacks we saw last week were good, old-fashioned SYN > floods. Hosts do have a responsibility here, more than ISPs, since > it is quite feasible to tie up a host's pool of TCBs with a small > number of packets, even if the attack tool does not

Re: Question re: an Internet-Draft and testing/deployment

At 09:03 AM 2/16/2000 -0800, Bill Manning wrote: >I hope not, This will be the first IETF where this WG meets. This is -one- >of several methods being discussed. We haven't even reached closure on >the appropriate scope. This draft is an attempt to walk one vector of >the problem space. Not just

Re: Question re: an Internet-Draft and testing/deployment

% At 09:03 AM 2/16/2000 -0800, Bill Manning wrote: % >I hope not, This will be the first IETF where this WG meets. This is -one- % >of several methods being discussed. We haven't even reached closure on % >the appropriate scope. This draft is an attempt to walk one vector of % >the problem space.

Re: Internet SYN Flooding, spoofing attacks

Dan, I'll suggest one course of action, but I keep emphasizing the issue is not one of alternates, but of recognizing the limitations of proposals now on the table and considering approaches that may work irrespective of whether everyone performs filtering. With regard to a wide range of DoS

Re: Question re: an Internet-Draft and testing/deployment

> Not just "discussed". Tin Tan Wee has been working on this publicly for a > couple of years and now has a well-supported, fully operational service. which doesn't even begin to address a large number of problems. anyone who believes they have running code for iDNS is deluding themselves. Ke

Re: Question re: an Internet-Draft and testing/deployment

Dave; > >I hope not, This will be the first IETF where this WG meets. This is -one- > >of several methods being discussed. We haven't even reached closure on > >the appropriate scope. This draft is an attempt to walk one vector of > >the problem space. > > Not just "discussed". Tin Tan Wee has

Re: Internet SYN Flooding, spoofing attacks

>Yes, and you chose the CORRECT solution. Think about it... VPN in most >cases also means encryption, and at that probably back to a central >site. Yes, I often use encryption, but not to a central site. Generally I apply it at the application layer (SSH/SSL) so the peer is whoever I happen to be

Re: IETF Adelaide and interim meetings for APPS WGs

- Original Message - From: "Vernon Schryver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In other words and politically correct pretense asside, the IETF is not > an international organization. Despite its posturing, the IETF is a U.S. > or perhaps North American organization that welcomes non-U.S. participant

Re: IETF Adelaide and interim meetings for APPS WGs

On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 08:38:49 +0900, Masataka Ohta said: > So, all the future IETF meetings should be held in areas far away > from US and, in addition, where English is not the major language. "My hovercraft is full of eels" -- J. Cleese

Re: IETF Adelaide and interim meetings for APPS WGs

At 12:20 PM 2/15/00 -0600, Mart Nurmet wrote: >Keith: > >How do I go about geting the schedule for the meetings for the rest of the >year? If you go to the IETF web site, click on "Meetings", and click on "list of future meetings", you will find a pointer the file http://www.ietf.org/meetings/0mt

Re: IETF Adelaide and interim meetings for APPS WGs

At 01:30 PM 2/15/00 -0500, Jeffrey Altman wrote: >The problem I have with the Adelaide meeting is very simple. With so >few working groups holding sessions, I can't justify making the trip. I'd like to offer a personal observation. Yes, the working group sessions are useful but, for me, the mo

Re: IETF Adelaide and interim meetings for APPS WGs

to people that think that the internet is mostly US centric, and will go on being so, and that this is relevant to the IETF anyhow - wrong, wrong, and also wrong! um the Internet is now mostly commercial - the Eu and Asia each have MORE money than the US, and also have growth economies. if you

Re: IETF Adelaide and interim meetings for APPS WGs

Austin Schutz wrote: > It wouuld be possible to have all the mailing lists redistributed > using some babelfish-like mechanism for translation, though obviously that > wouldn't cover all languages and wouldn't do any well. Maybe better than > nothing. Probably worse than nothing, unless

Re: Need HELP for SNMP

On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:41:53 +0530, Sriram Shanmugam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I would like to a develop the code do discover all the SNMP Agents > present on the Network , how do i go abt it?. Step 1: Send a ping to the subnet's broadcast address. Step 2: For each machine that answers,

Re: IETF Adelaide and interim meetings for APPS WGs

It is not the case that few WGs are holding meetings. The published agenda just isn't complete yet; it never is at this stage. Brian Graham Klyne wrote: > > At 01:30 PM 2/15/00 -0500, Jeffrey Altman wrote: > >The problem I have with the Adelaide meeting is very simple. With so > >few working

Re: IETF Adelaide and interim meetings for APPS WGs

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jon Crowcroft writes: > note also, that provided the IETF doesnt start mimicing ITU in > choosing > meeting location, a lot of places outside the US offset travel costs > by cheaper accomodation costs.significantly in some cases > (i admit london england is not

RE: Internet SYN Flooding, spoofing attacks

Eliot, Some of the DoS attacks we saw last week were good, old-fashioned SYN floods. Hosts do have a responsibility here, more than ISPs, since it is quite feasible to tie up a host's pool of TCBs with a small number of packets, even if the attack tool does not use spoofed sourced addresses

RE: IETF Adelaide and interim meetings for APPS WGs

> -Original Message- > From: John Stracke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Probably worse than nothing, unless there are much better > translators than babelfish out there. WG discussions get > down to really niggly points; a translator that doesn't > work *perfectly* is likely to make thin

Re: Question re: an Internet-Draft and testing/deployment

% --- start excerpt % A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. % % % Title : Compatible Internationalized Domain Names Using % Compression % Author(s) : P. Hoffman % Filename: draft-hoffma

Re: Internet SYN Flooding, spoofing attacks

In message , Stephen Kent writes: > Eliot, > > Some of the DoS attacks we saw last week were good, old-fashioned SYN > floods. Hosts do have a responsibility here, more than ISPs, since > it is quite feasible to tie up a host's pool of TCBs with a small

Re: Question re: an Internet-Draft and testing/deployment

At 10:49 AM 2/16/00 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Note: this protocol is quite experimental and should not be deployed in >the Internet until it reaches standards track in the IETF. >--- end excerpt > >Regarding the Note: - is there any coherent plan regarding testing/deployement >in regards to

Re: IETF Adelaide and interim meetings for APPS WGs

> It is not the case that few WGs are holding meetings. The published agenda > just isn't complete yet; it never is at this stage. This is very true. Looking at the Internet Area, I expect all but one of the WGs that normally have face-to-face meetings to meet in Adelaide. Plus, there are three p

Re: Internet SYN Flooding, spoofing attacks

Steve, The AT&T experiences might be different, but at GTE-I, a SYN flood was the primary attack mechanism for one major web site that we host. Also, it is not at all clear that our network had a problem handling the other flooded traffic (ICMP Echo Reply and UDP traffic) that was sent to 3 o

Re: IETF Adelaide and interim meetings for APPS WGs

At 10:55 AM 2/16/2000 -0500, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: >Given airline load factors, I don't seem to be able to qualify for discounts >on my trips to San Francisco from New Jersey -- which means that my >tickets to >Adelaide are only very slightly more expensive. only San Francisco? I thought th

Re: Question re: an Internet-Draft and testing/deployment

On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:57:45 PST, Paul Hoffman / IMC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > The note shouldn't be needed, given the definition of an Internet Draft, > but it appears that many folks have forgotten that definition. Ahh.. . I was reading it as being even *more* cautionary than the usual par

Re: Internet SYN Flooding, spoofing attacks

In message , Stephen Kent writes: > Steve, > > The AT&T experiences might be different, but at GTE-I, a SYN flood > was the primary attack mechanism for one major web site that we host. > Also, it is not at all clear that our network had a problem handling

Re: Common Indexing Protocol (CIP)

On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Rick H Wesson wrote: > does anyone know of any implementations of CIP? ROADS http://www.roads.lut.ac.uk/>. Tatty bye, Jim'll

Re: Internet SYN Flooding, spoofing attacks

>I think we recognize this may be politically infeasable for many >people to do, because tunneling is often used to circumvent >administrative restrictions, but that really is a different degree of >the problem. Bingo. I tunnel because my cable modem provider requires residential users to use DHC

Re: Internet SYN Flooding, spoofing attacks

Date:Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:20:43 -0800 From:Phil Karn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Even if I could find somebody at their help desk | who understood a request to open up their filter to my own IP addresses, | they would have no incentive t