Re: External link to article on trends in anti-surveillance design

2013-08-29 Thread Scott Brim
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Ted Lemon wrote: > On Aug 29, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > > Interesting stuff, but more on-topic for the perpass list: > > I think Deans point is precisely that it is _not_ a topic that can be > restricted to the perpass list. > > Yes and yes. E

Re: External link to article on trends in anti-surveillance design

2013-08-29 Thread Ted Lemon
On Aug 29, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Interesting stuff, but more on-topic for the perpass list: I think Deans point is precisely that it is _not_ a topic that can be restricted to the perpass list.

Re: External link to article on trends in anti-surveillance design

2013-08-29 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/29/13 11:17 AM, Dean Willis wrote: > > importance of including anti-surveillance features as mandatory > aspects of our protocols. Interesting stuff, but more on-topic for the perpass list: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/perpass Peter

External link to article on trends in anti-surveillance design

2013-08-29 Thread Dean Willis
Some of you may recall me ranting several years ago about the importance of including anti-surveillance features as mandatory aspects of our protocols. I seem to recall getting (mostly) politely laughed at ... Anyhow, there's an article on the topic in Wired right now that hints at the commercial