Re: Abbrev. (was: PL/I vs. JCL)

2021-10-03 Thread David Spiegel
t 2021 10:02:46 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: Hi Charles, I guess that nobody bothered to tell the tech writer that the "S" in MVS, is an abbreviation for "Storage". Decades ago, I learned "Segments", and I've thought that ever since. I may never have uttered it

Re: PL/I vs. JCL

2021-10-05 Thread David Spiegel
Maybe they should've left it as "Open MVS"? (OS/390) On 2021-10-05 13:08, Tom Brennan wrote: I always thought IBM's position on that was pretty silly.  If you make up a new three word name, expect it to quickly be turned into an acronym.  If they didn't want us to reuse an existing little-known

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-06 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bob, I learned JCL in the mid '70s (45 years ago). Placing DISP first makes the JCL line up a lot more than placing DSN first. Besides not needing DCB, DSORG is usually useless as well. Regards, David On 2021-10-06 09:57, Bob Bridges wrote: Just a side comment, you may be in the minority put

Re: IBM JCL Expert preview in today's announcement letter

2021-10-06 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Gil, That's why I said "usually". Another is a Model DSCB (usually required for GDG Bases). Regards, David On 2021-10-06 11:19, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 10:33:14 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: ... Besides not needing DCB, DSORG is usually useless as well.

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-08 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Shmuel; AMV"SH, "... What about the Christmas Card Worm? ..." That was AFAIK on a VM system, not, an MVS system. Regards, David On 2021-10-08 10:35, Seymour J Metz wrote: Historically, there have been many poorly run shops. Prior to MVS, older systems were wide open and even systems with

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-08 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bob, From what I recall, the bad guys had "READ" to the RACF Database. (It helps to have incompetent SecAdmin staff and auditors.) They downloaded it and then dictionary-attacked it easily, because there was no password limitation and there was no trivial-password-exclusion list. Also, NVAS h

Re: Mainframe ransomware solution

2021-10-11 Thread David Spiegel
pidely entered vnet which was shutdown (to remove all copies afaik), earn bitnet was saved by Eric Thomas by filtering in rscs. You had to execute it, a global social attack/joke, not like the other real worm in sendmail --- On 08/10/2021 16:43, David Spiegel wrote: "... What about the Ch

PAX/TRS zFS

2021-10-11 Thread David Spiegel
Hi, I am trying to PAX and TRS a zFS. When I run a Step to PAX followed by a Step to TRS, I get: pax: //'MY.PAX': EDC5061I An error occurred when attempting to define a file to the system. (I tried TAR and got the same result.) When I run the PAX in one job and the TRS in another job, it works.

Re: PAX/TRS zFS

2021-10-11 Thread David Spiegel
TRS.) ..."I want a robust backup Dataset which can survive downloads/uploads to non-z/OS platforms. The Dataset and File Names have been masked; /src/ is not MOUNTd at Root Regards, David On 2021-10-11 14:40, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 14:03:11 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: I

Re: PAX/TRS zFS

2021-10-11 Thread David Spiegel
Yes, dynamically allocated On 2021-10-11 15:10, Carmen Vitullo wrote: is  the DD for MY.PAX dynamically allocated ? I've never wrote to a MVS datasets using pax Carmen On 10/11/2021 1:03 PM, David Spiegel wrote: Hi, I am trying to PAX and TRS a zFS. When I run a Step to PAX followed

Re: PAX/TRS zFS

2021-10-11 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Gil, Every time I've used Windows as a "waystation", I've never had a problem with TRS Files. Regards, David On 2021-10-11 15:10, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 14:51:23 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: "... "An error occurred" is woefully in

Re: System Programmer Titles

2021-10-11 Thread David Spiegel
Large Systems Infrastructure Support Another one: Mainframe Administrator (I really dislike this one in particular.) On 2021-10-11 16:28, Herring, Bobby wrote: I asked this question back in 2004. My boss wants to know if there are any new titles to add to the list below. Mainframe Engineer O

Re: System Programmer Titles

2021-10-12 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Cameron, How about Big K'nacker? (Sounds something like Conacher) Regards, David On 2021-10-12 09:42, Cameron Conacher wrote: I tried o get "King" once, but that did not get very far. Thanks, …….Cameron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Brian

Re: System Programmer Titles

2021-10-12 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bob, Not allowing people to run z/OS on Intel may be a larger mistake. Regards, David On 2021-10-12 10:36, Richards, Robert B. (CTR) wrote: The biggest mistake "HAL" made was dissolving PSRs and SEs. They often provided the marketing folks with potential sales leads way before the manglers

Re: System Programmer Titles

2021-10-12 Thread David Spiegel
t a "Contact us" without a price. On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 09:46 David Spiegel wrote: Hi Bob, Not allowing people to run z/OS on Intel may be a larger mistake. Regards, David On 2021-10-12 10:36, Richards, Robert B. (CTR) wrote: The biggest mistake "HAL" made was dissolving PS

Re: PAX/TRS zFS

2021-10-13 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Gil, How does changing the allocation for SYSUT1 from JCL to DYNALLOC change anything ... they're both non-Exclusive ENQs? Regards, David On 2021-10-13 08:58, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 14:03:11 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: I am trying to PAX and TRS a zFS. When I

Re: PAX/TRS zFS

2021-10-13 Thread David Spiegel
SLEEP (or equivalent) in the TSO input could prevent this. Regards, David On 2021-10-13 10:07, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 09:36:51 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: How does changing the allocation for SYSUT1 from JCL to DYNALLOC change anything ... they're both non-Exclusive ENQs?

Re: PAX/TRS zFS

2021-10-13 Thread David Spiegel
DATACLAS=DCZFSEXT, // STORCLAS=SCZFSEXT, // SPACE=(CYL,(1000,500),RLSE), // RECFM=FB,LRECL=1024,BLKSIZE=27648 // DSN=&DS..PAX.TRS Regards, David On 2021-10-13 10:48, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 10:24:06 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: I a

Re: Vector examples?

2021-10-18 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Charles, The link did not work for me. Regards, David On 2021-10-18 20:21, Charles Mills wrote: Is this useful? https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibm.com%2Fsupport%2Fpages%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Finline-files%2F%24FILE%2Fvec&data=04%7C01%7C%7C80013d9f9

Rexx Detecting Value of MSG

2021-10-19 Thread David Spiegel
Hi, I am writing a Rexx Exec which is  invoked from a CLIST. I would like the Rexx Exec to be able to obtain the value (set by the calling CLIST) of CONTROL MSG/NOMSG . Can someone suggest a method to do this (without resorting to Assembler)? Thank you in advance. Regards, David -

Re: Rexx Detecting Value of MSG

2021-10-19 Thread David Spiegel
Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 9:03 PM David Spiegel wrote: Hi, I am writing a Rexx Exec which is invoked from a CLIST. I would like the Rexx Exec to be able to obtain the value (set by the calling CLIST) of CONTROL MSG/NOMSG . Can someone suggest a method to do this (without resorting to Assembler)?

Re: Rexx Detecting Value of MSG

2021-10-20 Thread David Spiegel
2021-10-20 06:25, Rupert Reynolds wrote: Reading that page, MSG seems to revert to default if you use EXEC to start a new script. Pass it in as a parameter from CLIST and set it again? Roops On Wed., Oct. 20, 2021, 03:45 David Spiegel, wrote: Hi Steve. I read that too, but, it does not seem

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Mainframe Modernization

2021-10-21 Thread David Spiegel
I would've said Shmegoogle (a takeoff on Shmegheggi) On 2021-10-21 12:34, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 10/21/2021 9:16 AM, allan winston wrote: When I Google "TSO PIPE", I found that it is a command within Netview. BatchPipes is a completely different program product. Google Schmoogle... The message i

Re: Mainframe Modernization

2021-10-22 Thread David Spiegel
"... With Java and shared classes, it keeps a copy of the compiled classes in a data space. " Hmm ... Sounds (functionally) like LLA/VLF. On 2021-10-22 05:21, Colin Paice wrote: With Java and shared classes, it keeps a copy of the compiled classes in a data space. You can now "save" the latest

Re: Question about negative indexes

2021-10-23 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Joe, You are forgetting that '=H' creates a storage area of a half-byte, which is addressed by the RX Instruction. Here is what happens:   Active Usings: None   Loc  Object Code    Addr1 Addr2  Stmt   Source Statement  HLASM R6.0  2021/10/23 20.37 00 

FTP from IBMLink Fails on EZA2897I

2021-10-28 Thread David Spiegel
Hi, I used to be able to FTP my Order from IBMLink to my z/OS system. This no longer works and I am getting EZA2897I. My //SYSFTPD has a valid KEYRING. Which other statements do  I need to make this work? (I remember seeing  a note that as of April, 2021 there would be changes to FTP security in

FTP from IBMLink Fails on EZA2897I

2021-10-28 Thread David Spiegel
Hi, Problem solved ... The FTP Step must include: //CEEOPTS DD * ENVAR(GSK_PROTOCOL_TLSV1_2=ON) Please see: https://knowledge.broadcom.com/external/article/208752/ftp-to-supportftpbroadcomcom-receives-s.html Regards, David -- F

Re: formatting help

2021-10-31 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Joe, If all else fails, maybe you should make a PDF document out of your MS-Word document and send it as an attachment? Regards, David On 2021-10-31 16:15, Joseph Reichman wrote: Before I send it looks okay I have outlook I went to file -> options -> mail it has options for compose However

Re: IBM has lost it completely

2021-11-09 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bill, You said: "... Now to drag the aging IBMers. ..." the blurb said: "... step inside the Drag Queens´ Palace ..." Did you choose "drag" because IBM used it, or, is this strictly coincidence? Regards, David On 2021-11-09 13:38, Bill Johnson wrote: Looks relevant to me. IBM getting into t

Re: conditional JCL - Reinvent the wheel?

2021-11-10 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Colin, Add a TSO Step in which a CLIST/Rexx does a "LU Userid", trap the output and if your program "sees" ICH30001I UNABLE TO LOCATE USER ENTRY, avoid the DELUSER. Regards, David On 2021-11-10 07:29, Colin Paice wrote: I'm looking at ways of doing customisation, and want an easy way to r

Disassembly/Reassembly

2021-11-17 Thread David Spiegel
Hi, I have been given a Load Module and source code. The Source Code, however, does not 100% match the Disassembled Load Module. This module has been running in production since 1994. With that preface ... I tried reassembling the disassembled module source and have a problem. One instruction say

Re: Disassembly/Reassembly

2021-11-18 Thread David Spiegel
p;reserved=0 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Spiegel [dspiegel...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 5:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Disassembly/Reassembly Hi, I have been given a Load Module and sour

Re: Disassembly/Reassembly

2021-11-18 Thread David Spiegel
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Re: AWS is down.

2021-12-08 Thread David Spiegel
You said: "...  Did the world not exist before 1960s? Did people automatically die before 1960s because they didn't have MF? ..." Yes, the world existed before the 1960s and, no, nobody died as a result of no mainframe. You're forgetting that the world was a different place then. Computer-based

Re: AWS is down.

2021-12-08 Thread David Spiegel
Hi KB, You goofed again. Your head must be in the clouds (pun intended). You said: "... cut out all the baggage of backward compatibility ..." Backward compatibility is a big part of customer loyalty. Customers expect that their applications will run when processors are upgraded. For example, I

Re: article about ransomeware and mainframe

2021-12-21 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Eileen, I read the article and there seems to be more than one elementary mistake: "... IBM’s modern mainframe series started with the 360 up to its current z/OS series ..." 360 is software is hardware, z/OS is software "... Mainframes today do not actually run-on discretionary access control

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: article about ransomeware and mainframe

2021-12-21 Thread David Spiegel
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Re: Long time between IPLs a security risk? was Re: What is OVMSKERN?

2021-12-23 Thread David Spiegel
You said: "... in my 40 yeats ..." What is a "yeat"? On 2021-12-23 12:09, Bill Johnson wrote: You “experts” are all alike. I’ve worked with hundreds of people with way more zOS talent than on this list. And I’ve never been unemployed in my 40 yeats. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursd

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread David Spiegel
As an aside, In Quebec French, The "ne" is dropped. On 2022-01-04 20:17, Seymour J Metz wrote: I don't know of any language where two negatives make a negative. I know of languages that have distributed negatives, e.g., "Je ne parle pas Français." in French. AFAIK it would be incorrect to omit

Re: Console message alignement

2022-01-09 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Peter, With z/OS up, please try  these 2 console commands: K E,D (in case there a re messages on the bottom of the screen) K A,NONE Try a command which displays a large message, e.g. D A,L Regards, David On 2022-01-09 01:19, Peter wrote: Hello I am referring the MVS tuning and reference to

Re: Available ASIDs low and dropping

2022-01-10 Thread David Spiegel
Hi John, I am curious ... How does your shop APPLY maintenance without an IPL? (I know that the LNKLST can be rebuilt dynamically, but, that (according to documentation I've read) is not 100% foolproof.) Regards, David On 2022-01-10 10:22, John Blythe Reid wrote: Rob, ADABAS does support REU

Tracking CLIST/Exec Usage

2022-01-26 Thread David Spiegel
Hi List, I have been given the task of cleaning up unused software. Part of that is identifying which CLISTs/Execs are not being used. Can someone please suggest a way to do this? Thank you in advance. Regards, David -- For IB

Re: Tracking CLIST/Exec Usage

2022-01-26 Thread David Spiegel
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Tracking CLIST/Exec Usage

2022-01-27 Thread David Spiegel
Hi List, Is it possible for an Exec/CLIST to determine from which Exec/CLIST it was invoked? If yes, please specify how. Thank you in advance. Regards, David -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: Tracking CLIST/Exec Usage

2022-01-27 Thread David Spiegel
Thu, 27 Jan 2022 at 16:31, David Spiegel wrote: Is it possible for an Exec/CLIST to determine from which Exec/CLIST it was invoked? If yes, please specify how. <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tek-tips.com%2Fviewthread.cfm%3Fqid%3D1162402&data=

Re: More of LOG4J

2022-01-30 Thread David Spiegel
AFAIK, UID(0) (via CNMEUNIX) has nothing to do with reading (downloading) the unprotected RACF Database. There is another factor ... the uneducated/inexperienced administrators did not protect a multi-session product (IIRC, it was TPX). As well, the hackers found a bug in NVAS ... changing a non-

Re: USS Rexx mistery

2022-02-03 Thread David Spiegel
Hi KB, It's a contraction  for "Hash Bang", i.e. a number sign/pound sign/Hash (Upper Shift 3 on a US Keyboard) followed by an exclamation mark (Upper Shift 1 on a US Keyboard). The Shebang is used at the start of a script to tell the *ix shell which scripting language to invoke. It is similar

Re: MVS PURGE command

2022-02-03 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Radek, Was it CICS-related? Regards, David On 2022-02-03 15:34, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: W dniu 03.02.2022 o 21:25, Tony Harminc pisze: On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 at 12:59, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: BTW: current z/OS 2.4 still supports UNIT=SEP construct in JCL. Yes, it is ignored, but still syn

Re: Definition of z/OS SYSRES volume

2022-02-14 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Matt. You said: "... contains configuration information about the system being started. ..." The PARMLIB concatenation and IODF do not have to be on the SYSRES. Your statement is therefore incorrect. Regards, David On 2022-02-14 20:12, Matt Hogstrom wrote: It depends on the background of t

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-15 Thread David Spiegel
Hi John, Good thing you're not RUSTy. Regards, David On 2022-02-15 21:47, John McKown wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 8:34 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: While it's certainly not impossible, it's certainly very difficult to retrain a HLASM programmer to Java, Python, Javascript etc. It's not beca

Re: Rexx routine to dump all variables when debugging?

2022-02-16 Thread David Spiegel
Hi W M, I'm interested. da...@ddstar.com Thanks and regards, David On 2022-02-16 20:38, W Mainframe wrote: Hey,Provide me your email and I will send a routine to list  rexx variables. In my routine you will be able to search variables current rexx pool showing the result in sysout or you can

Re: Meet Zorow, An Open Mainframe Project For z/OS Systems - Open Mainframe Project

2022-03-01 Thread David Spiegel
Take a cue from Charles Manson ... Zezozose Zadfrack On 2022-03-01 20:01, PINION, RICHARD W. wrote: No wait, Zoltar, from a MST3000 episode. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 7:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.

Re: Meet Zorow, An Open Mainframe Project For z/OS Systems - Open Mainframe Project

2022-03-03 Thread David Spiegel
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Re: Job submission from CMS to MVS

2022-03-06 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, Gut Voch How about via TCP/IP from CMS? Regards, David On 2022-03-06 09:58, Seymour J Metz wrote: There are two obvious way to submit an MVS job from CMS: 1. Spool it ti RSCS and let it go in via NJE 2. Spool it to a virtual reader on MVS I'm curious as to how many s

Re: How to get APAR number

2022-03-07 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Allan, I looked at Fix Central (as you suggested) and searched on Tivoli OMEGAMON XE for Messaging for z/OS V7.5.0. It does not contain z/OS APARs/PTFs. It does, however, contain Windows/*IX service. Regards, David On 2022-03-07 09:14, Allan Staller wrote: Classification: Confidential No

Re: RTM2WA

2022-03-08 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Steff, IBM introduced SYS1.MODGEN many years ago (1990s). In case a PTF is APPLYd, but not ACCEPTd, you're not going to see it in SYS1.AMODGEN. Regards, David On 2022-03-08 07:37, Steff Gladstone wrote: Where can I find the DSECT for the RTM2WA control block? I did not find it in either S

Re: ESTAE and IEBCOPY

2022-03-08 Thread David Spiegel
Screen Scrape the Job Log /SYSLOG via SDSF API. On 2022-03-08 10:03, Steff Gladstone wrote: In one of our REXX procedures we execute IEBCOPY to copy a member from one PDS to another. Sometimes IEBCOPY fails (e.g., for lack of space either in the directory or the library). It intercepts the aben

Re: How to simplify IODF activation

2022-03-17 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Allan, Why can't the user FTP the Batch Activate Job to all 28 LPARs? Regards, David On 2022-03-17 11:03, Allan Staller wrote: Classification: Confidential I believe you are out of luck. Since these are all single-image systems, each needs the IODF activated individually. There is an optio

Re: FORMAC was ABP

2022-03-25 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Carmen, At different jobs in the '80s: 1) "Decision Support" with the ADRS add-on (at a computer hardware company) 2) crunching Nielsen marketing data (at a large multi-national food company) 3) actuarial stuff (insurance) Regards, David On 2022-03-25 14:47, Carmen Vitullo wrote: I don't want

Re: PL/I question

2022-03-27 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Robin, While you're busy correcting ... IBM uses American spelling  ... *Optimizing (not the British/Continental/etc. Optimising). Regards, David On 2022-03-27 11:25, Robin Vowels wrote: Oops, a typo. The PL/I Optimising and checkout compilers were available from 1970. --- This email has

Re: PL/I question

2022-03-27 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, Like ALGOL and Pascal? Regards, David On 2022-03-27 22:52, Seymour J Metz wrote: Personally, I wish that IBM had chosen ":=" for assignment. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmason.gmu.edu%2F~smetz3&data=04%7C01%7C

Re: PL/I question

2022-03-28 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Robin, You said: "... These new features were introduced in PL/I: ..." Pseudo-variables (i.e. SUBSTR, UNSPEC), Source Margins (not exactly the language itself). Regards, David On 2022-03-28 06:26, Robin Vowels wrote: On 2022-03-28 20:43, Seymour J Metz wrote: I'm fully aware of the initia

Re: PL/I question

2022-03-29 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Robin You said: "... BTW, the change in format of the DO was essential in preventing the flaw in FORTRAN (which still exists) by which a period instead of the first comma changes the DO statement into an assignment statement.  ..." Have you ever read the Datamation article regarding the comma

Re: FORTRAN comma

2022-03-29 Thread David Spiegel
it?  (I looked with google, without success). Thanks, Robin On 2022-03-30 00:22, David Spiegel wrote: Hi Robin You said: "... BTW, the change in format of the DO was essential in preventing the flaw in FORTRAN (which still exists) by which a period instead of the first comma changes t

Re: PL/I question

2022-03-29 Thread David Spiegel
avid On 2022-03-29 10:37, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 09:22:10 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: You said: "... BTW, the change in format of the DO was essential in preventing the flaw in FORTRAN (which still exists) by which a period instead of the first comma changes the DO st

Re: Contributions to CBT snce 02/22/22

2022-03-30 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, "... laid up ..."? In case this involves something health-related, R'fuoh Sh'leimoh. If you want a MeShebeirach, please give me your full Jewish name and you mother's full Jewish name. Hatzlochoh! Regards, David On 2022-03-30 10:09, Sam Golob wrote: Dear Folks,    I hav

Re: Contributions to CBT snce 02/22/22

2022-03-30 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Charles, Samuel is a "translation" of Sh'muel (based upon the Septuagint's Bible translation (Hebrew->Greek->English). Regards, David On 2022-03-30 11:32, Charles Mills wrote: Different Samuel/Shmuel! Charles -- For

Re: Contributions to CBT snce 02/22/22

2022-03-30 Thread David Spiegel
Metz. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 8:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Contributions to CBT snce 02/22/22 Hi Charles, Samuel is a "translation" o

Re: AFP confusion

2022-03-30 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Jay, If you code LNKAUTH=APFTAB in IEASYSxx, then you're correct. If you code LNKAUTH=LNKLST, then your assertion is incorrect. Regards, David On 2022-03-30 15:01, Jay Maynard wrote: Libraries accessed through STEPLIB/JOBLIB aren't APF-authorized simply by virtue of being listed on the link

Re: Question About ADRDSSU

2022-04-12 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Mike, There is no asterisk to the left of PARM. Regards, David On 2022-04-12 02:27, Mike Shorkend wrote: You can code your EXEC statement like this to check which datasets ADRDSSU will process (without actually doing it): //COPYMOVE EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=7M,TIME=99,*PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'*

Re: SDSF - ISPF questions (wishes?)

2022-05-02 Thread David Spiegel
Hmm ... Sounds like IOF's ARChive command. On 2022-05-02 08:07, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: Kirk - I know of no way to add a descriptor record separating each DD when extracting multiple DD's using SDSF to a single target dataset. That does look to be a useful feature - you should submit an RFE for i

Re: SDSF - ISPF questions (wishes?)

2022-05-03 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Phil, 1) Use the SET DISPLAY ON command to see your settings 2) OWNER PHS 3) PREFIX ** (2 asterisks are necessary; it's been a quirk in the product since GA back in '87.) 4) INPUT ON Regards, David On 2022-05-03 11:46, Phil Smith III wrote: Lionel and I have been communicating about his ve

Re: SAF without an ESM

2022-05-05 Thread David Spiegel
*flotsam On 2022-05-05 19:45, Kirk Wolf wrote: Oh my, LOL. About half of ibm-main posts are attempts at humor (many unintentional), and the other half are just pedantic flotsum but that actually landed somewhere else. On Thu, May 5, 2022, at 5:25 PM, Phil Smith III wrote: Alan Altmark wrote

Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-11 Thread David Spiegel
HI David, I do not understand this at all. How does any program differ from IEFBR14 (with respect to allocation/freeing unused disk space by DD Statement)? Maybe your shop has an Exit or add-on product which does Storage Management? David On 2022-05-11 01:53, wrote: 5. Consider changi

Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-11 Thread David Spiegel
. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 11:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques HI David, I do not understand this at all. How does any program differ from IEFBR14

Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-11 Thread David Spiegel
the file later. -Original Message----- From: David Spiegel Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 11:07 AM I do not understand this at all. How does any program differ from IEFBR14 (with respect to allocation/freeing unused disk space by DD Statement)? Maybe your shop has an Exit or add-on product

Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-11 Thread David Spiegel
List On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 9:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques Hi Paul, Allocation does allocation and nothing but allocation. It does not write anything at all. Regards, David On 2022-05-11 12:17, Paul

Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-11 Thread David Spiegel
of my default DATACLAS. I know the EOF is there. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 10:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques Hi Dave, I tested it. Your hypothesis

Re: File Manager questions (or other way to copy unlike PDSes)

2022-05-12 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Radek, Q3. I don't know about preventing change to ISPF Statistics, but, they can be set via the PDS Command Processor (CBT File 182). ATTRIB member1 ID(myuser) CREATED(05/11/22) LAST(05/12/22) TIME(1015) SECS(30) (You can write a program to issue the ATTRIB against all of the members in t

Re: Has anyone successfully configured TLS v1.3 in PAGENT?

2022-05-19 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Charles, On my V2.5 (zPDT) system, it's still the V2.3 sample. I would also be interested in a working AT-TLS 1.3 setup for FTP Server. Regards, David On 2022-05-19 19:34, Charles Mills wrote: I've got PAGENT working with TLS v1.2 and below for FTP Server. I started working my way through h

Re: data set deletion problem

2022-05-28 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Ed, His Dataset is SMS-Managed, Your solution will not work. Regards, David On 2022-05-28 23:56, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 5/28/2022 5:27 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Doesn't IBM supply a "Use at Your Own Risk" facility to rename a data set despite an ENQ on the DSN? https://nam12.safelinks.prot

Re: SLIP IF not working

2022-06-07 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Robin, Is the module an LPA module? Regards, David On 2022-06-07 09:19, Robin Atwood wrote: I wanted to get a dump of my server when the instruction at 001234 in module MOD1 gets executed, so I entered: SLIP SET,IF,J=SRV1,PVTMOD=(MOD1,001234),ID=SLP1,END I made a transaction that

Re: Rexx generic compare

2022-06-07 Thread David Spiegel
HI ITschak AMV"SH, Have you looked at the Catalog Search Interface (CSI)? There is a Rexx sample in 'SYS1.SAMPLIB(IGGCSIRX)'. If you care to look at Regular Expressions, please see Martin Packer's TSO Regular Expression Testing Tool – Mainframe, Performance, Topics (mainframeperformancetopics.co

Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-08 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, *obscenities Regards, David On 2022-06-08 06:35, Seymour J Metz wrote: This abuse of latin-derived plurals leads to such obsenities as "piece of data" where "datum" would suffice and "medias". "Why can't the English learn to speak?";was that in Pygmalian, or added for My

Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-08 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, I've been hearing "an Exec" (referring to VM) since 1982. One has to keep in mind, however, that "an Exec" was also used for EXEC and EXEC2. Regards, David On 2022-06-08 06:58, Seymour J Metz wrote: While I cringe at "a REXX" or "a software", "an EXEC" doesn't bother me. I

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, I don't want to go too far off-track here (this forum has nothing to do with Hebrew), but, the plural form (in Biblical Hebrew) denotes more importance (i.e. חֲשִיבוּת) than the singular form and is ALWAYS set to the masculine gender (however sexist that may sound to modern

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, It's a good thing that טומטום and אנררוגינוס were not introduced into this discussion. That might really cloud the issues. Regards, David On 2022-06-09 16:49, Seymour J Metz wrote: Neuter singular pronouns for living beings. "They" and "them" are nominally plural in conte

Re: Some UNIX file usage questions

2022-06-21 Thread David Spiegel
Shkoyach! On 2022-06-21 08:55, Seymour J Metz wrote: Lots of Yiddish idioms are in the form of a question, and if a translator misses the implied question mark, all meaning is lost. The phrase "I could care less" is the result of applying a tin ear to a sarcastic Yiddish idiom. The Yiddish id

Re: Highlighted Console Messages

2022-06-23 Thread David Spiegel
HI Brian, In Ontario, OPP=Ontario Provincial Police. Regards, David On 2022-06-22 23:35, Brian Westerman wrote: Please excuse the marketing aspect of this, but our SyzMPF/z product can notify via email, sms text message, or TSO notify any person or persons that are interested in any message t

Re: Highlighted Console Messages

2022-06-24 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Brian, I purposely avoided being explicit to let the readers draw their own conclusions. Regards, David On 2022-06-24 00:18, Brian Westerman wrote: That's almost the same thing, right? :) On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 06:56:29 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: HI Brian, In Ontario, OPP=On

Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

2022-06-29 Thread David Spiegel
Hi David, The paragraphing style was used historically by PL/I. Rexx syntactically is a PL/I derivative, Regards, David On 2022-06-29 08:32, David Crayford wrote: On 29/06/2022 8:27 pm, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: The formatting was a quick and dirty - I typically use the REXXFORM edit macro to clea

Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

2022-06-29 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bob, When I programmed PL/I 40+ year ago, lining up the END; with the body was de rigeur. Initially, of course, that was using cards. When ISPF (or XEDIT) came along, lining up the END: with DO/SELECT etc. made a lot more sense since excluded lines could be shown by column number containing

Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

2022-06-29 Thread David Spiegel
edition p189. */ -----Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2022 10:47 When I programmed PL/I 40+ year ago, lining up the END; with the body was de rigeur. Initially, of course, that was using cards. When ISPF (or XEDIT) came

Re: Java?

2022-06-30 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Gil, "...traumatized during gestation by a dubbing? ..." Maybe, too many foreign movies? {:->} Regards, David On 2022-06-30 13:03, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 09:55:08 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: "dubbing" basically means that a TCB gets assigned a z/OS UNIX pid.If you run z

Re: Using SORT to generate sequential Dates

2022-06-30 Thread David Spiegel
Hi, You said: "... lunar calendar used in Israel ..." The lunar calendar is used by all Jews, not just Jews in Israel. That is why Passover, Chanukah, Rosh HaShanah etc. don't always start on the same solar date. Regards, David On 2022-06-30 19:35, Retired Mainframer wrote: -Original Mes

Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

2022-07-08 Thread David Spiegel
+1 On 2022-07-08 10:51, Dave Jones wrote: Timothy Sipples said: "Which leads to an interesting thought exercise. In 2022 if you're trying to choose a programming language for business application programming that stands the best chance of being durable (being realistically maintainable, exten

Re: How do I issue a command with a blank in it?

2022-07-10 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Gil, You said: "..as XEDIT and "sed" do ..." IIRC, TSO Edit should be included in this list. Regards, David On 2022-07-10 11:31, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 13:11:17 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: ... if someone were able to do an RFE with a compelling business case to allow

Re: VM: redefine virtual storage from an EXEC

2022-07-14 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Binyamin AMV"SH, Place a x'15' between  commands Regards, David On 2022-07-14 09:16, Binyamin Dissen wrote: I have not been successfully making an exec re-IPL CM'S after redefining storage. If I directly issue #cp def stor 32m#cp ipl cms parm autocr it changes the storage size and re-

Re: Finding uncatalogued datasets

2022-07-22 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Jack, The VTOC Command Processor (CBT File 112). If you install it, I can supply JCL  to do this. Regards, David On 2022-07-22 10:00, Jack Zukt wrote: Hi all, As a byproduct of what I am working now, I have found out a few uncatalogued datasets. Now I would like to find out all the uncatalog

Re: Finding uncatalogued datasets

2022-07-22 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Mike, So will The VTOC Command Processor (CBT File 112) and it's free. Not only that, but VTOC an also show incorrectly Cataloged Datasets (with the same Job). Regards, David On 2022-07-22 11:10, Mike Shaw wrote: Jack, MVS/QuickRef will give you a list of the uncataloged data sets across

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