Hi Bob, Not allowing people to run z/OS on Intel may be a larger mistake.
Regards, David On 2021-10-12 10:36, Richards, Robert B. (CTR) wrote:
The biggest mistake "HAL" made was dissolving PSRs and SEs. They often provided the marketing folks with potential sales leads way before the manglers knew they needed stuff because the worker bees would ask for information about future HW and SW in advance of speaking to the higher ups! Speaking from personal experience on *both sides* of that fence. Bob -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Bill Ogden Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 10:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: System Programmer Titles I was a Systems Engineer (with progressive title levels) for 30 years (starting in 1966) with you-know-who, so I became a little curious about the exact meaning of the title. Over the years I discovered there was really no specific meaning to it. I am an electrical engineer but no one ever checked on that as a condition for the title. Other Systems Engineers (for the same BIG company) had various backgrounds and most were not Engineers in a University sense or license sense. We were usually known as SEs within the industry. As a general view (at that time, when the industry was younger and different) the SEs often formed a link between the practical customer world (meaning technical management, sysprogs, programmers, etc) and the home company processes (software development, blue sky marketing, technical support, etc, etc). It was a good job and, in my opinion, it is a bit unfortunate that the particular niche has mostly disappeared. Some of us were more on the systems programming side (myself), some a bit on the technical hardware side (myself also, but this was not common), some on the mostly marketing side, etc, etc. It was a slightly random mixture but seemed to work well at the time-----but that was too many years ago! Today, I think one can flip coins to decide on a particular meaning for the title. Bill Ogden ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN .
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