Re: COBOL Question

2020-06-06 Thread Charles Mills
The problem would seem to me to stem from having the same operator for Boolean Not and for Bit Complement. Apparently VBA uses ! for both. I believe that in C or C++ if ( ! Result ) would evaluate as you expected: first Result would be evaluated as true or false, then that truth value would be

Re: COBOL Question

2020-06-06 Thread Charles Mills
https://www.tutorialspoint.com/cprogramming/c_operators.htm for C operators I don't know VBA at all, only some VB. Are you sure about the ! operator being "complement"? https://bytecomb.com/the-bang-exclamation-operator-in-vba/ https://www.tutorialspoint.com/vba/vba_operators.htm Charles ---

Re: COBOL Question

2020-06-07 Thread Charles Mills
You could not be more correct. You wrote NOT and I translated that in my head to the exclamation point. (My C is showing.) And yes, absolutely, as you say, the problem is the merging of logical not and XOR operations. The link below says "NOT -- Called Logical NOT Operator. Used to reverse the

Re: Messages & Codes (was Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes")

2020-06-11 Thread Charles Mills
You have to understand national politics: "we won't buy this product; the error messages are in English" [not French, Japanese, etc.] Even though you are of course right, "diskette in drive" is more understandable to the average French speaker than !! Sys01475 Charles -Original Message-

Re: [External] Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes"

2020-06-11 Thread Charles Mills
That's cool, the is/are and pluralization. I never bothered -- I have always gone with (s) as in "You have %d dog(s)" Yes, I really upped my error message game when I went from assembler to C++. Yes, you can do anything in assembler, but unless you have or devote time to developing macros such

Re: [External] Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes"

2020-06-11 Thread Charles Mills
My other favorite. We had someone call about an installation problem. The solution was rather involved so our support tech said "it is covered in detail in the Installation Manual" whereupon the customer guy said "oh, I don't have the manuals. Bob has the manuals. He's in charge of documentation

Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes"

2020-06-11 Thread Charles Mills
The telephone folks used to close tickets with CWT -- "cleared while testing." In other words, they could not reproduce. Another support favorite: Customer: You've got to help us. It's happening all the time. It's really killing us. We're dead in the water without a fix. Tech: Add a SYSUDUMP DD

Re: Messages & Codes (was Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes")

2020-06-12 Thread Charles Mills
It's not the users -- they want the original (i.e., in this case, English) documentation. It is fussbudgets in purchasing or legal. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 4:34 AM To: I

Re: Messages & Codes

2020-06-12 Thread Charles Mills
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Messages & Codes Charles Mills wrote: >You have to understand national politics: "we won't buy this >product; the error messages are in English" [not French, >Japanese, etc.] >Even though you are of course right, "diskette in drive" is &

How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work?

2020-06-12 Thread Charles Mills
X-Posted IBMMAIN and IBMTCP. Apologies. This is a question that is both urgent for us and perhaps a little obscure. With Passive FTP, the server uses a PORT command to say to the client "open the data connection on this IP address." Unfortunately with NAT that is an internal address that is meanin

Re: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work?

2020-06-12 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks all! Thanks much! Let me try to do one reply here to hold down the noise. > active mode is the one using PORT; passive mode uses PASV Thank you! It's a detail but I want to have the details right. Details are of the essence here. What *exactly* does the server send? On the client end I se

Re: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work?

2020-06-12 Thread Charles Mills
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work? Thanks all! Thanks much! Let me try to do one reply here to hold down

Re: How is Passive FTP with TLS and NAT supposed to work?

2020-06-13 Thread Charles Mills
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills Thanks all! Thanks much! Let me try to do one reply here to hold down the noise. > active mode is the one using PORT; passive mode uses PASV Thank you! It's a detail but I want to have the details right. Details are of

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Charles Mills
What is it with tech bulletin boards and the fuss about top-posting? I will bet I have gotten tens of thousands of business e-mail replies in my life and every single one of them was "top-posted." What is it about tech bulletin boards where folks seem to want the most relevant stuff -- the new

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-14 Thread Charles Mills
+1 Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 10:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... ) As a Californian, I have a special af

Re: New Mainframe Community

2020-06-15 Thread Charles Mills
I thought the StackOverflow forum was extremely promising but it died on the vine. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 6:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Ne

Re: CVTLSO race (was: ... STCKCONV ...)

2020-06-16 Thread Charles Mills
Are you sure? Either way, the pseudocode keeps retrying the STCK until CVTLSO stabilizes. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 9:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subjec

Re: CVTLSO race (was: ... STCKCONV ...

2020-06-17 Thread Charles Mills
If a mainframe process is synchronizing with an off-box process, or engaging in communications that contains a timestamp governed by a standard, isn't "true" UTC a requirement? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of P

Re: CVTLSO race (was: ... STCKCONV ...

2020-06-17 Thread Charles Mills
(was: ... STCKCONV ... On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 07:33:48 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >If a mainframe process is synchronizing with an off-box process, or engaging >in communications that contains a timestamp governed by a standard, isn't >"true" UTC a requirement? > The current

Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access

2020-06-17 Thread Charles Mills
You will get almost as many opinions as there are folks on this list. The question is a lot like "what is a good brand of car for weekend trips?" I use Ipswitch WS_FTP Professional. I have little experience with anything else for non-mainframe to mainframe access so I am fat, dumb and happy. It is

Re: Address of CSECTs within a load module

2020-06-17 Thread Charles Mills
I don't know what you (or I!) are talking about but if the module map is created by the inclusion of IEWBMMP then making it a WXTRN means that the binder will not automatically include it. If you want to declare it WXTRN for some reason then you will need to include its module explicitly. Or ma

Re: Address of CSECTs within a load module

2020-06-17 Thread Charles Mills
"Strong reference" -- in other words, not a WXTRN. That seems to just be how it works. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subj

Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access

2020-06-17 Thread Charles Mills
Yes! I pretty much need to have two different "hosts" defined for the same LPAR: one "MVS" and one "UNIX." This is in Ispwitch WS_FTP. (Only one FTP server STC on the LPAR.) Not a problem at all. I can open multiple host windows, so I can transfer a convention dataset one minute and a UNIX file

Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access

2020-06-17 Thread Charles Mills
No flames from me but Windows "DOS" FTP has no TLS support -- is that not right? Not needed in every situation but required in some. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 4

Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access

2020-06-17 Thread Charles Mills
2020 16:58:07 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >No flames from me but Windows "DOS" FTP has no TLS support -- is that not >right? > Is "DOS" the same as "cmd.exe"? The latter seems clearer. >Not needed in eve

Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access

2020-06-17 Thread Charles Mills
Also slower than a dog, and if you are working for the security folks, basically unaudited. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 7:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Su

Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access

2020-06-17 Thread Charles Mills
fully experienced instances where IND$FILE (on z/VM) mangled >a Binary Upload from my MS-Windows 10 Pro workstation. >It works every time I use FTP, though (via CLI or WinSCP). > >On 2020-06-17 21:38, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> >> ... ... On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 18:57:23 -0700, Char

Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access

2020-06-18 Thread Charles Mills
Yes, WS_FTP has no issue with PDSEs. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Finnell Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 10:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access I'

Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access

2020-06-18 Thread Charles Mills
FTP client for MVS data set access Does it DO SFTP with SHA-XXX support? Or is this product just FTP? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 10:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access

2020-06-18 Thread Charles Mills
For things that I both want to deal with on z/OS as a "package" and on Windows as individual files, I just download them twice: once as individual members in ASCII and once as a TSO XMIT file. Biggest negative I guess is that if you were to edit one member on Windows you would have to remember

Re: Ent. Cobol sign with certificate

2020-06-18 Thread Charles Mills
More detail on what you are trying to do? Sign what? Where does COBOL come into this? Which Enterprise COBOL? (4? 6.2? 6.3?) What environment? (Batch, CICS, Websphere, ...?) Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of I

Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access

2020-06-18 Thread Charles Mills
-Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 23:39 Also slower than a dog, and if you are working for the security folks, basically unaudited. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainfram

Re: Reading a dump

2020-06-21 Thread Charles Mills
+1 !!! Look at the LE or C runtime options books and get yourself a CEEDUMP. Debugging from one is a little bit of a learning exercise of its own but FAR superior to SYSUDUMP for 9 out of 10 (or perhaps 99 out of 100) C runtime errors. You will get the exact line number of the offending source sta

How display amount of real storage?

2020-06-22 Thread Charles Mills
Dumb question of the week: is there a command to display the amount of real storage configured for the LPAR? I did all of the obvious (to me) searches in System Commands. Thanks! Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / a

Re: How display amount of real storage?

2020-06-22 Thread Charles Mills
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 12:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: How display amount of real storage? [External Email. Exercise caution when clicking links or opening attachments.] Dumb question of the week: is there a

Re: How display amount of real storage?

2020-06-22 Thread Charles Mills
Of Charles Mills Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 9:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How display amount of real storage? Gracias! Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of PINION, RICHARD W. Sent: Monday, June

Re: How display amount of real storage?

2020-06-22 Thread Charles Mills
COMMAND NOT AUTHORIZED I will look into what I need. If anyone happens to know right off it would save me RTFM. I can grant the access; I just need to know what to grant. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Car

Does adding real storage require an IPL?

2020-06-22 Thread Charles Mills
the box owners are telling us an IPL is required. PR/SM, not VM, if that matters. Thanks much! Charles Mills +1-707-291-0908 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists

Re: Does adding real storage require an IPL?

2020-06-22 Thread Charles Mills
Well, in what was apparently a bit of a miscommunication, the box owners IPLed our LPAR, so the issue is now moot. But the storage is there! Thanks all, Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Bishop Sent: Mon

Re: New Mainframe Community

2020-06-26 Thread Charles Mills
There *are* IMHO some problems with IBMMAIN but it is not clear to me that they are significant enough to worry about nor that some new forum would necessarily be better overall. - Searchability. The archives leave a lot to be desired in this regard IMHO. - Topic drift. There is something of tende

Re: New Mainframe Community

2020-06-26 Thread Charles Mills
quotes for centuries. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 2:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: New Mainframe Community On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 13:46:06 -0700, Char

Re: New Mainframe Community

2020-06-26 Thread Charles Mills
:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: New Mainframe Community On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 15:33:36 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >+1 on redundant replies. > >> wish is that the WWW interface supported composing in a >> monospaced font > >What's the difference? It show

Re: AT-TLS ? Very Basic Questions

2020-07-01 Thread Charles Mills
Tom, I believe you have nailed it exactly. Those are the two main drivers IMHO. In addition, there is a *huge* problem (in general, not Z specifically) of poorly-written programmatic "users" of TLS libraries. If you write a General Ledger program and the ledgers don't cross-foot, the CFO tells y

Re: AT-TLS ? Very Basic Questions

2020-07-01 Thread Charles Mills
I think programs will be able to; IBM just does not intend to spend to maintain encryption in two places: AT-TLS *and* all of the listed applications. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Wawiorko Sent: Wedne

Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-02 Thread Charles Mills
If you are going to include OS compatibility as well as hardware compatibility then there are issues such as control blocks that have been moved above line. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent:

Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-02 Thread Charles Mills
eymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Charles Mills [charl...@mcn.org] Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 12:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS use of "legacy" pro

Re: Using IEBCOPY COPYGROUP to unload a PDS member with aliases

2020-07-02 Thread Charles Mills
FWIW there was a long thread here on COPYGRP/COPYGROUP March 3 through 6 of this year. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 9:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re

Re: Migrate z/OS DASD volumes from Mainframe to Hercules Environment

2020-07-03 Thread Charles Mills
+1 Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Grant Taylor Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 8:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Migrate z/OS DASD volumes from Mainframe to Hercules Environment On 7/2/20 11:34 PM

Re: Mainframe co-op

2020-07-03 Thread Charles Mills
A model to look at might be the IBM Innovation Center, Dallas. The price is higher than what I picture as your target: $550/month and up IIRC. You get two dedicated VM virtual machines: one that runs CMS and that you use as a console. You can do limited console automation with Rexx. And one on w

Re: Mainframe co-op

2020-07-03 Thread Charles Mills
> One can't control their z/OS image, because the DASD for the RES is > controlled by the data center. Right, one could not apply a patch to the nucleus. It is on a R/O volume. But you have pretty good control IMHO: - SYS1.PARMLIB/PROCLIB/etc. is your own. You can do anything you want there and

Re: Assembler question

2020-07-04 Thread Charles Mills
Right. It is two bytes. It occupies two bytes, 804 and 805. The assembler has then inserted two bytes of unused slack to that the following field -- defined as a fullword -- is fullword (multiple of four) aligned. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:I

Re: Assembler question

2020-07-04 Thread Charles Mills
I am not sure what you are trying to achieve in the big picture but assembler is not something you can spend a short time on and expect to have something that works. Rexx -- you could study it for 5 minutes and be able to write SAY "Hello World" and you would have a working first program. Not s

Re: Assembler question

2020-07-05 Thread Charles Mills
cussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 1:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Assembler question On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 15:28:44 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >I am not sure what you are trying to achieve in the big picture but

Re: Storage & tape question

2020-07-08 Thread Charles Mills
In the case of the NotPetya malware attack that crippled Maersk Lines, I believe they did not have backup for their router configuration files on the theory they had multiple routers and each backed the others up via replication. Of course when one got corrupted it happily replicated to all the

Re: Storage & tape question

2020-07-08 Thread Charles Mills
Unlikely? Black swans do happen. How unlikely is a world-wide pandemic that cripples economies around the world? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 2:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV

Re: SuperWylbur Users

2020-07-08 Thread Charles Mills
I would *think* -- perhaps I am being naïve -- that one could come up with an automated fix for that that would do a 90% job, and then fix the last 10% manually. How many lines of source is it (approximately) and in a few words what was the mistranslation error? The usual stuff with braces, bra

Re: COBOL 6.3 compiler options question

2020-07-08 Thread Charles Mills
Not I. There is a May, 2020 update to the P/G and it's not in there. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 2:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: COBOL 6.3 compiler

Re: SuperWylbur Users

2020-07-08 Thread Charles Mills
nt form. > >>> > >>> > >> > https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhercules-390.yahoogroups.narkive.com%2FygahqIHc%2Fwylbur-orvyl-milten-and-friends&data=02%7C01%7C%7C6ce4721ad7de46a4d74908d8237d19a1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0

Re: [External] Re: COBOL 6.3 compiler options question

2020-07-08 Thread Charles Mills
lf Of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 5:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: COBOL 6.3 compiler options question Not I. There is a May, 2020 update to the P/G and it's not in there. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailt

Re: SuperWylbur Users

2020-07-08 Thread Charles Mills
Regarding 2: *if* it was a "round trip" translate table and *if* one could get a copy of the table then the IEBCOPY data could be reconstructed programmatically. Even if not, I suspect that if one defined the problem not as "do a 100% job of recovering *any* IEBCOPY unload that has been translated

Re: SuperWylbur Users

2020-07-08 Thread Charles Mills
Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 8:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SuperWylbur Users On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 17:28:17 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >Regarding 2: *if* it was

Re: SuperWylbur Users

2020-07-09 Thread Charles Mills
hardware instruction. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 9:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SuperWylbur Users On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 21:51:11 -0700, Charles Mil

Re: z/OS 2.2 documentation

2020-07-16 Thread Charles Mills
It's there for me (or am I not understanding)? https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.ieaa700/toc.htm https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.ieaa700/abend.htm Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discuss

Re: z/OS 2.2 documentation

2020-07-16 Thread Charles Mills
f file, I get a 404 error. On 7/16/2020 4:30 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > It's there for me (or am I not understanding)? > > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.ieaa700/toc.htm > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/co

Where does FTP server F DEBUG= write its data?

2020-07-17 Thread Charles Mills
If I issue the command F ftpserver,DEBUG=JES where does the trace output go? Thanks, Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MA

Re: Where does FTP server F DEBUG= write its data?

2020-07-17 Thread Charles Mills
Anyone? The 'JES' is not significant to the question. Could be DEBUG=CMD or ACC. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 3:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subj

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-18 Thread Charles Mills
Or, more formally, addition is commutative but subtraction is not. A + B always* equals B + A, but A - B generally does not equal B - A. *Is that true for computer languages (as opposed to being true only for pure math)? In modern C++ if I say auto x = y + z; If y and z are of different types

Re: Where does FTP server F DEBUG= write its data?

2020-07-18 Thread Charles Mills
Found it. Thanks all. On this system no syslog.conf. Configuration seems to be in a legacy dataset pointed to by the -f flag in EXEC PGM=SYSLOGD,PARM=. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John S. Giltner, Jr. Sen

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-18 Thread Charles Mills
age- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 10:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years? On Sat, 18 Jul 2020 08:20:09 -0700, Charles Mills wr

Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table

2020-07-18 Thread Charles Mills
I don't know if this was readable for others but I had to edit it to be able to read it. I thought I would share my editing. Different mail clients -- perhaps it was better for others as it was. Different strokes ... Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:

Re: COBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-18 Thread Charles Mills
What exactly would "move" mean in a computer memory context? We move physical objects: they cease to occupy one space and instead occupy another. But a computer memory holds information. You can no more move data in memory from one place to another than you can move knowledge from my head to you

Re: COBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-19 Thread Charles Mills
Have to say I agree. Had not thought of that. I was thinking more in terms of in-memory variable primitives, not in terms of containers (as C++ calls them). A list.move() function might even change the memory location of the object moved -- that might be implementation dependent. Charles -Or

Re: Encrypting z/OS SNMP traps to Windows SNMP server

2020-07-20 Thread Charles Mills
John, you forgot to say X-Posted! I answered on the TCP list but I suspect the main dialog will end up being here. Here X-Posted is what I wrote on the TCP list. The whole point of AT-TLS is that it all just happens automagically (the z/OS end only). I'm not an expert on AT-TLS but to a great

Re: Encrypting z/OS SNMP traps to Windows SNMP server

2020-07-20 Thread Charles Mills
Does SNMP flow by TCP or by UDP? UDP would be wrinkle. TLS-UDP is not unheard of but not super common in my experience. Does AT-TLS support UDP? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Monday, July

Re: Possible new function for DFSORT?

2020-07-22 Thread Charles Mills
I don't know but it sounds to me like kind of an inappropriate function to graft onto a sort program. Why not dollar to Euro conversion? Or meters to feet? Keep in mind (as @Shmuel said) that one IP address could have multiple "source" domains or URLs, and also that the mapping can change with n

Re: Started task stopping immediately. No error messages.

2020-07-24 Thread Charles Mills
A started proc is just JCL that executes some program. Any program *might* behave as you describe. IEFBR14 would behave as you describe. People would probably need more specifics to be able to help. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSER

Re: Started task stopping immediately. No error messages.

2020-07-24 Thread Charles Mills
SDSF ST may be your friend. I was the guy who started the thread @Ron mentions and ST provided me with clues. Why a job or STC would not be in I, O, H or DA but would be in ST is beyond me but that is a subject for a different thread. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Dis

Re: Started task stopping immediately. No error messages.

2020-07-27 Thread Charles Mills
Oh man! Talk about user-hostile programming. How could anyone ship a customer-facing program that detects an error and then just quits with (a.) RC=0 and (b.) no message whatsoever. No "Hello World I am FTPD V2R3" and no error message. Even if you can't open your usual log or listing file you can W

Re: Started task stopping immediately. No error messages.

2020-07-27 Thread Charles Mills
Step MEMLIMIT set to ONOUDONT by policy - SMFLIM00 0002 So, it looks some exit is killing the task because he has REGION=0M. The SMFLIMxx policy is killing the task (ONOUDONT). Joe On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 4:42 PM Charles Mills wrote: > Oh man! Talk about user-hostile programming

Trying to find documentation for LE reason code

2020-07-29 Thread Charles Mills
I am getting the following error when starting a UNIX program: CEE5101C During initialization, the callable service BPX1MSS failed. The system return code was 000156, the reason code was 0D070201 . The application will be terminated. There is a lot of this and that on the Web, but I would li

Re: Trying to find documentation for LE reason code

2020-07-29 Thread Charles Mills
reason code On 2020-07-29 16:35, Charles Mills wrote: > I am getting the following error when starting a UNIX program: > > CEE5101C During initialization, the callable service BPX1MSS failed. The > system return code was 000156, the reason code was 0D070201 . The > application wil

Re: Trying to find documentation for LE reason code

2020-07-29 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks. That was part of the this and that which I found on the Web. No CICS in my picture. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Hochee Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 1:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subjec

ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-29 Thread Charles Mills
A program is in a WAIT ECBLIST on two ECB's. The program's ESTAEX exit is driven by an operator CANCEL (ABEND S222). Is it legal for the ESTAEX exit code to WAIT on one of those ECBs? If not, what would be the symptoms? And if not, what would be necessary to "make it legal"? Is it possible to can

Re: Trying to find documentation for LE reason code

2020-07-29 Thread Charles Mills
Found the BPXMTEXT problem. An EXEC library in the concatenation is VB. The error is from running the EXEC; it is not documentation of any UNIX error. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-30 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks @Peter. I wondered about an ATTACH RMTR. I was fishing a bit when I wrote the OP. I understand the problem now: I have a non-authorized batch program. I have complete control over the logic. It runs a UNIX program as a subtask. I have no control over the logic of the UNIX program. Under

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-30 Thread Charles Mills
ng in task termination. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 10:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question Thanks @Peter. I wondered about an ATTACH

Basic ESTAE and subtask question

2020-07-30 Thread Charles Mills
I am trying to grasp the implications of "any recovery routines defined for the originating task are propagated to the new Task" in the ATTACH documentation. (It's under STAI/ESTAI but it's not clear to me if it only applies when STAI or ESTAI is in effect.) Here's my question: A main program iss

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-30 Thread Charles Mills
Ah! No, I understand that. I am not trying to "defeat" S222. The second subtask is a legitimate cleanup effort. When it ends, the main program will return, percolate and ABEND. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf O

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-30 Thread Charles Mills
for the suggestions. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 11:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 12:59, Charles M

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-30 Thread Charles Mills
Forty years or whatever and MVS still holds surprises for us! I guess that's what makes it still fun after all these years. I did this in another situation: did a TON of stuff in an ESTAEX exit. Yes, you are on life support, there is no getting away from that, and any ABEND is fatal (well, I re

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-30 Thread Charles Mills
Hmmm. That would have been a much simpler approach, although I am a little reluctant to touch my dub setting because that code is early in the process and has been working for years. If I screw it up, gosh knows what stops working. This new code -- it only runs if the user cancels the job. There

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-31 Thread Charles Mills
I know for a fact that DETACH causes (via some route) the ECB to be posted. I always WAIT on the ATTACH ECB and it always works. Whether that WAIT is superfluous or not is something I have no way of testing. I believe you (of course!) but the WAIT is harmless at worst so I think I will leave it i

Re: Basic ESTAE and subtask question

2020-07-31 Thread Charles Mills
Well, shoot. I realized as I was quoting it that it was not the latest and greatest, but so little changes in the existing interfaces that I did not worry about it. I tend to work always from the doc for the oldest release of the OS that *we* support, so I don't get seduced by some new feature tha

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-31 Thread Charles Mills
> And you probably always got a 13E abend message on the console. No, never in my recollection. None yesterday with all of my testing. But I do see there is a SLIP set for S13E so perhaps that is suppressing it. > The normal thing to do is to tell the subtask to end That would indeed be a wonder

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-08-01 Thread Charles Mills
Right. I only know for a fact that all of the swans I have ever seen were white. I believe what is happening is that the DETACH is posting the ATTACH completion ECB and therefore making it available to be waited upon again. Because my ESTAEX exit code, that always WAITs on the same ECB following t

Re: Knowledge Center ...

2020-08-05 Thread Charles Mills
This from a company that wants us to move our processing to their cloud ... Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 1:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Kno

Why EZA1685W Invalid local file identifier ?

2020-08-07 Thread Charles Mills
I apologize: this is an incomplete question. It is impossible to post "everything." The question: I invoke FTP from a z/OS batch program. The indicated statement fails as shown: EZA1736I Quote Site FileType=JES NoTrail EZA1701I >>> Site FileType=JES NoTrail 200 SITE command was accepted EZ

Two possibly related "historical" z/OS C library questions

2020-08-07 Thread Charles Mills
Fairly recent history: not drum memory or anything. 1. I have code written about fifteen years or so ago that contains comments and code logic that indicates that for a FILE opened to a UNIX path fldata() returns "...PATH=.SPECIFIED..." in __dsname. That is not true (any more?): __dsname contains

Re: Why EZA1685W Invalid local file identifier ?

2020-08-07 Thread Charles Mills
mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 1:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Why EZA1685W Invalid local file identifier ? I apologize: this is an incomplete question. It is impossible to post "everything." The question: I invoke

Re: Why EZA1685W Invalid local file identifier ?

2020-08-07 Thread Charles Mills
> Doesn’t Filetype=JES try to get JES output from spool? Basically yes. Local file name is still the local file name. The particular syntax shown submits 'legacy.dataset' as a job and retrieves the output into //DD: (when it's working!). That part of the code is all working and has been working

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