Re: Heh, "Sabre is Getting Off the Mainframe-One Way or Another"

2024-11-30 Thread Phil Smith III
Right, it can and does happen. The following is an opinion, and one I'm surprised to have arrived at, but here I am. Warning: long ramble ahead. The companies who embark on a mainframe exit and succeed successfully (as opposed to just managing to transition off, but without winding up being p

Re: JES2, HASPPARM and PARM

2024-11-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
WTF? It has been the case since OS.360 F14 that you could have overrides on the START. The DD overrides are applied to IEFRDER and the EXEC overrides are applied to the EXEC PROC=. What you can't do is to direct a DD override to anything other than IEFPROC.IEFRDER. Of course, you can code the J

Re: JES2, HASPPARM and PARM

2024-11-30 Thread Willy Jensen
My latest JES2 proc got boiled down to just this: //* JES2 PROCEDURE WITH EVERYTHING IN THE HASJES2 MEMBER IN //* SYSC.PARMLIB. //IEFPROC EXEC PGM=HASJES20,DPRTY=(15,15),TIME=1440,PERFORM=9 //HASPLIST DD DDNAME=IEFRDER

Re: COPICS Manuals

2024-11-30 Thread Mike Schwab
Background. https://media.neliti.com/media/publications/239942-the-evolution-of-enterprise-resource-pla-dc65a833.pdf On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 9:49 PM Tony Thigpen wrote: > > Anybody got a copy of any COPICs manuals that they are willing to loan > or give away? Trying to help a customer extract o

COPICS Manuals

2024-11-30 Thread Tony Thigpen
Anybody got a copy of any COPICs manuals that they are willing to loan or give away? Trying to help a customer extract old data from an old system. Thanks, Tony Thigpen 407-474-0770 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archi

Re: JES2, HASPPARM and PARM

2024-11-30 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 30.11.2024 o 21:44, Radoslaw Skorupka pisze: How do you override i.e. TIME parameter in STEP3? How do you explain LIST parameter of START VTAM command? Just checked: Indeed, the PARM in START command overrides PARM specified in the JCL, however it works only for first step. Majority of

Re: Heh, "Sabre is Getting Off the Mainframe-One Way or Another"

2024-11-30 Thread David Crayford
Very well articulated Phil. Most of the banks in the country I live run 70% of there transactions on distribured systems in response to disruptive technologies like mobile banking increasing their MLC. Read heavy so they use an architectural patten call CQRS l. UBN have recently announced a Z s

Re: JES2, HASPPARM and PARM

2024-11-30 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
How do you override i.e. TIME parameter in STEP3? How do you explain LIST parameter of START VTAM command? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 30.11.2024 o 16:17, Seymour J Metz pisze: WTF? It has been the case since OS.360 F14 that you could have overrides on the START. The DD override

Re: Heh, "Sabre is Getting Off the Mainframe-One Way or Another"

2024-11-30 Thread David Crayford
Sorry for the typos. iPhone fat fingers. > On 1 Dec 2024, at 04:40, David Crayford wrote: > >  > Very well articulated Phil. Most of the banks in the country I live run 70% > of there transactions on distribured systems in response to disruptive > technologies like mobile banking increasing

Re: SMF puzzle

2024-11-30 Thread Martin Packer
I don’t have access to my code right now but wonder if it’s a STCK / TOD value. It probably is. Cheers, Martin From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Ituriel do Neto <03427ec2837d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Date: Friday, 29 November 2024 at 20:00 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: JES2, HASPPARM and PARM

2024-11-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
Does START FOO, TIME.STEP3= work? If not, you need to code the EXEC with a symbolic parameter in STEP3 EXEC and override that in the START. Explain what? The START for VTAM is like any other START. Normally the device and volser are omitted, hence the three commas. --  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: Heh, "Sabre is Getting Off the Mainframe-One Way or Another"

2024-11-30 Thread Tom Brennan
Great notes. The lines that I think are most important: "the real value of Z today is in the captured intelligence/knowledge in those custom applications" "Pretending that it can't happen is foolish" On 11/30/2024 6:56 AM, Phil Smith III wrote: Right, it can and does happen. ... -