Messaeg IXC531I SETXCF START ALTER REQUEST FOR STRUCTURE REJECTED. REASON: STRUCTURE NOT ALLOCATED

2023-11-23 Thread Binyamin Dissen
I am new to setting up the XCF. The policy1 containing the structure is active. D XCF,STR,STRNAME= IXC360I 06.17.28 DISPLAY XCF 501 STRNAME: STATUS: NOT ALLOCATED POLICY INFORMATION:

Re: Messaeg IXC531I SETXCF START ALTER REQUEST FOR STRUCTURE REJECTED. REASON: STRUCTURE NOT ALLOCATED

2023-11-23 Thread Mark Jacobs
The structure will become active once the first connection is made. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 8:16 AM, Binyamin Dissen wrot

DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
I need to dump a lot of small dataset with HLQ=user_to_be_deleted. Since the user is no longer active, most of datasets are migrated to ML1 and ML2. By default ADRDSSU does not process migrated datasets. Is there any method to circumvent it? It can be anything, including scripted "touch". -- R

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Steve Beaver
Bring the list up in 3.4 then do a hdelete By every dsn and hit enter Sent from my iPhone No one said I could type with one thumb > On Nov 23, 2023, at 10:57, Radoslaw Skorupka > <0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > I need to dump a lot of small dataset with HLQ=user_t

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
Well, First, I DON'T WANT TO DELETE datasets. I wan to dump them to archive file. Second, I want to avoid manual typing/clicking. :-) -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 23.11.2023 o 18:01, Steve Beaver pisze: Bring the list up in 3.4 then do a hdelete By every dsn and hit enter Sent f

Re: Performance i/o problem

2023-11-23 Thread Steve Estle
Assuming you are running ZOS in native mode (not as guest under ZVM) where your dump/restores are occurring, I would definitely look at RMF reports - my first place to look is RMF Monitor III online - if not active, turn on with the recording VSAM files - typically "F RMF, S III" - this should s

Re: UNIX REXX LINKMVS TASKLIB?

2023-11-23 Thread Farley, Peter
Probably preserved for IBM (pick your language) PROC compatibility. The only place I have ever seen temporary link libraries used is in IBM-supplied compile-link-go PROC’s, where the link step SYSLMOD DD uses DSN=&&GOSET(&MEM) and the GO step uses “PGM=*.linkstepname.SYSLMOD”. I’ve never seen t

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Keith Gooding
I usually run a batch TSO step which issues command HRECALL ‘HLQ.** WAIT’ immediately before the dump step. You may get a lot of messages sent to your TSO session - either saying dataset not migrated or that migration is complete. There is also a ADRDSSU patch ( from memory patch area offset 17

Re: UNIX REXX LINKMVS TASKLIB?

2023-11-23 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 01:47:18 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >>On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 04:18:05 +, Farley, Peter wrote: >>In this day and age, why in the world would you evec contemplate using a >>non-cataloged library? >> >In parallel with the JCL Ref. mentioning use of temporary data sets as lin

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Jack Zukt
Hi, You coul use HSM ABARs. It will recall any migrated dataset that matches your filter. Best wishes Jack On Thu, Nov 23, 2023, 16:58 Radoslaw Skorupka < 0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I need to dump a lot of small dataset with HLQ=user_to_be_deleted. > Since the user i

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 17:57:53 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >I need to dump a lot of small dataset with HLQ=user_to_be_deleted. >Since the user is no longer active, most of. datasets are migrated to ML1 >and ML2. Do you really need another backup since HSM already backed them up? If HRECALL g

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 18:18:23 +, Keith Gooding wrote: >I do not know why IBM do not have an option for adrdssu to go the recall >automatically - there have been some requests on IBM ideas. The last thing you want is for ADRDSSU to become long running waiting on multiple recalls from multip

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
That's the trick! I forgot about HRECALL and generics. Thank you. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 23.11.2023 o 19:18, Keith Gooding pisze: I usually run a batch TSO step which issues command HRECALL ‘HLQ.** WAIT’ immediately before the dump step. You may get a lot of messages sent

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 23.11.2023 o 20:11, Jon Perryman pisze: On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 17:57:53 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: I need to dump a lot of small dataset with HLQ=user_to_be_deleted. Since the user is no longer active, most of. datasets are migrated to ML1 and ML2. Do you really need another backup

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Keith Gooding
Jon. I certainly would like the option to tell dss to recall datasets so that they can be copied or backed up. A common use case for me is to back up , or copy and rename, a set of software libraries for archiving or distribution to another system (a bit like a zOSMF portable software instance)

Re: Performance i/o problem

2023-11-23 Thread Jon Perryman
It sounds like the OP is sharing a volume between 2 different sysplexes. If that's the case, then hardware reserves may also be a problem that should be investigated. On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 11:37:29 -0600, Steve Estle wrote: >Assuming you are running ZOS in native mode (not as guest under ZVM) wh

Re: Page Datasets in User Catalog

2023-11-23 Thread Jon Perryman
On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 22:35:13 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I suspect that there was a game of telegraph, whereby crucial details got lost. > >It is normal to allocate page datasets in a user catalog that will eventually >be used as a master catalog. > I'm suspicious of the claim that z/OS can us

Re: UNIX REXX LINKMVS TASKLIB?

2023-11-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 18:13:27 +, Farley, Peter wrote: >Probably preserved for IBM (pick your language) PROC compatibility. The only >place I have ever seen temporary link libraries used is in IBM-supplied >compile-link-go PROC’s, where the link step SYSLMOD DD uses >DSN=&&GOSET(&MEM) and the

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 19:47:24 +, Keith Gooding wrote: >I certainly would like the option to tell dss to recall datasets I feel your pain but I personally agree with IBM's decision. Realize this is z/OS with specialists instead UNIX with its jack of all trades. DASD sysprog, performance sysp

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 23.11.2023 o 22:32, Jon Perryman pisze: On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 19:47:24 +, Keith Gooding wrote: I certainly would like the option to tell dss to recall datasets I feel your pain but I personally agree with IBM's decision. Realize this is z/OS with specialists instead UNIX with its ja

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 22:47:59 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >Well, Keith metioned *a switch*. Turning on the switch implies that everyone agreed that the feature benefits are more important than the risks. This is acceptable because IBM warned you and your company accepted the risks. -

Re: DSS dump and migrated datasets

2023-11-23 Thread Mike Schwab
ABARS does not recall datasets. ABARS copies the VTape ML1/2/backup to the new archive tape. https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.3.0?topic=guide-aggregate-backup-recovery-support-abars On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 12:59 PM Jack Zukt wrote: > Hi, > You coul use HSM ABARs. It will recall any migrated d

Re: UNIX REXX LINKMVS TASKLIB?

2023-11-23 Thread Seymour J Metz
While best practice is to let the system choose, if you insist on using VOL=SER=foo for a temporary, it will work. IMHO, it's best to let SMS do its thing. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Page Datasets in User Catalog

2023-11-23 Thread Seymour J Metz
Are you saying that PAGEADD will work with alias entries and that the added datasets will be retained across IPL? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Jon Perrym

Re: UNIX REXX LINKMVS TASKLIB?

2023-11-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 00:10:18 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >While best practice is to let the system choose, if you insist on using >VOL=SER=foo for a temporary, it will work. IMHO, it's best to let SMS do its >thing. > I use VOL=REF=ddfoo only when it's required. -- gil --

Re: Page Datasets in User Catalog

2023-11-23 Thread Mark Jacobs
I tried a pageadd of a newly defined page dataset that was cataloged in a user catalog. It didn't work. The command said it wasn't cataloged even though a listcat command was able to find it using the MLA in the master catalog. I didn't try an IPL with it in parmlib. I assumed that if the pagead

Re: UNIX REXX LINKMVS TASKLIB?

2023-11-23 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 00:10:18 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >if you insist on using VOL=SER=foo for a temporary, it will work. Cleanup of the public volumes is unpredictable. Normal users should never learn about VOL=SER especially for temporary datasets. > IMHO, it's best to let SMS do its thi

Re: Page Datasets in User Catalog

2023-11-23 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 00:12:34 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Are you saying that PAGEADD will work with alias entries and that the added >datasets will be retained across IPL? Sorry, I worded it incorrectly. I didn't mean to imply I had experience using pageadd in that respect. ---

Re: UNIX REXX LINKMVS TASKLIB?

2023-11-23 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 18:21:28 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >>On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 00:10:18 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >>If you insist on using VOL=SER=foo for a temporary, it will work. >> >I use VOL=REF=ddfoo only when it's required. For true temporary datasets, a normal user will never code VO

Re: Page Datasets in User Catalog

2023-11-23 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 01:42:08 +, Mark Jacobs wrote: >I tried a pageadd of a newly defined page dataset that was cataloged in a user >catalog. It didn't work. I suspected it would not work but was unsure. Pageadd remains in effect until the next CLPA so it would make sense it would fail.