@David I take your point but I fear my management won't see it that way,
reinventing the wheel and all that. I shall spend today experimenting with
rebuilding parameter lists, which is likely to be a useful technique in this
whole exercise. 😉
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We have axway, and have been told to use it for FTP.
I am trying to send doc to IBM and just need to FTP (or ftps).
What does axway do exactly?
thanks
Bill
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Hi Rex,
No worries, I want my commination coherent if I am to get the answers I need.
Please let me know how this response comes thru to you.with the rest of the
thread, or not?
thanks
Bill
On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 16:50:28 +, Pommier, Rex
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>Thanks, Matthew.
>
>Bill, if my initial
Perhaps I has missed something here.
>From what I can glean form the posts to date, Joe seeks to display a set of
messages from an area of memory to the SNAP dataset, for which a DCB has
been defined as per the manual.
A BSAM WRITE is used to add records to the dataset looping until "Last
BSAM is quite simply a pain but that’s what snap uses
I put in a lot of effort into my Estae such when the PSW at +68 wasn’t anywhere
in the neighborhood of my program chasing the rb to find my program last
registers myprg == cdname
Than have it quickly role off the screen with wto’s rather t
Just curious, is it possible and do some companies NOT use SMPe for z/OS
software updates?
thanks
Bill
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What I would especially like to be able to know under z/OS are the following
timer values:
DST offset - The Daylight Savings Time (DST) offset relative to UTC in minutes.
And what's missing - even from lsstp - is the date and time when switching
to/from DST, i.e., the timezone setting, in the
Woo-hoo! Yes, the context came through. :-)
Rex
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Hi Rex,
No worries, I want my comminat
Hi Bill,
If there are companies that do this, they're certifiably insane.
Imagine opening a case with IBM. The IBM person asks: "Is PTF AB12345
APPLYd?"
Regards,
David
On 2023-03-14 08:40, Bill Giannelli wrote:
Just curious, is it possible and do some companies NOT use SMPe for z/OS
software
On 3/14/2023 8:40 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote:
Just curious, is it possible and do some companies NOT use SMPe for z/OS
software updates?
thanks
Bill
I take it from your question that you have software provided by
third parties and do not see an associated CSI for them?
Yes, there are some com
Hi Steve,
Thanks for your answer!
Also, more specifically, for IBM software itself.
Is it possible? Or is it an IBM requirement? Just curious, as it was asked of
me. Not planning on doing it without SMPe!
To use IEBUPDTE IEBCOPY.you end up doing manually what SMPe does
automatically in th
You no longer need to get the open tools for z/OS from Rocket Software -
there is a new player in town - the z/OS Open Tools project.
You can find them at https://zosopentools.github.io/meta/#/ and they offer
several different installation options from individual packages to a
generalized inst
We have an Axway server as well. It’s basically a FTP client/server if I
understand correctly.We don’t use it for FTPing to IBM though. At one
time, there was a 4GB (could have been 2GB) limit on file sizes it could
transfer. Not sure if that limitation still exists.
On Tue, Mar 14, 2023
Hi Peter,
>> I'd say that z/OS has no concept of DST offset or switching to/from DST.
>> Changing to accommodate DST is left as an exercise for the customer.
My point was that if this DST data is set on the STP to be automatically
adjusted in z/OS by the STP itself (no human interaction on the z
Please leave the attribution when you "". e.g.
On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 23:17:24 -0500, Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD. wrote:
Otherwise, the snipping to relevant matter is laudable.
On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 12:45:27 +, Peter Relson wrote:
>
>
>And what's missing - even from lsstp - is the date and
Hi Paul,
I did not understand your comment about "snipping". Can you please explain?
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Resolved.
There is an Alias named CPUTIME in CEE.SCEELKED.
The SYSLIB for the link-edit step was configured with my library after the CEE
libraries.
Thus, the Link-edit was bringing in IBM's version of CPUTIME rather than my
version.,
A side issue that made it harder to spot the issue is
Thank you forresolving that puzzle
I was really puzzled by your stmt (must be dynamic) and could not come
up with a valid explanation of the strange results you are seeing.
Chris,
Chris,
Chris,
      Chris,
Chris,
Since we are talking about the subroutine- Question: you are using
pret
Yes, and it is a *VERY* bad idea.
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Wow... I didn't think it was even possible. When I first started with
MVS training I was given a few fairly easy non-SMP vendor tapes to
install. All contained IEBCOPY or similar files, and install JCL I
could understand. But when I got my first SMP tape, I was told to take
it over to a lead
On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 12:46:59 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote:
>...
>So I went back to my desk determined to map/dump the tape contents and
>do the install without knowing what SMP was. About 10 minutes later I
>gave up and looked for someone else to help :)
>
Sounds like the Good Old Days when (most)
On 3/14/2023 5:40 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote:
Just curious, is it possible and do some companies NOT use SMPe for z/OS
software updates?
thanks
Bill
The z/OSMF Portable Software Instance format does not require SMP/E.
Websphere uses Installation Manager.
SMP/E use for products like Java, NodeJ
That's because SMP/E and its power are only truly present in the z/OS and
predecessors world. Everyone else thinks of applying maintenance as a
matter of replacing the entire product, instead of individual fixes that
are automatically maintained and managed.
On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 4:22 PM Ed Jaff
On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 14:21:34 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote:
>...
>For such products, the value-add SMP/E provides is often just RECEIVE
>ORDER, but even that is dependent upon the software vendor standing up a
>RECEIVE ORDER server back at the "Ranch."
>
Our sheriff deemed the MVS "Ranch" an outlaws'
Hi Gil,
This reminds me of a story ... I say that a lot, just ask my kids.
Way back in the late late '80s, I worked at a national Canadian bank.
They had been used to getting tapes from IBM when they ordered
maintenance (for both VM and MVS) and would not even consider VNET
compressed maintenanc
On 3/14/2023 3:07 PM, David Spiegel wrote:
I went over to the 2nd in command VM guy and asked why I would have to
wait a week for delivery of a tape when it could he delivered
electronically in under an hour.
He had this irrational xenophobia against it and since he was the
gatekeeper, his mana
There are a lot of people using package managers in the Linux world, and a lot
of software available as, e.g., deb, rpm, files. To say nothing of, e.g., cvs,
git, SCCS, svn.
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Hi Ed,
I knew that there were means of ensuring integrity and that's why I
asked the question.
Regards,
David
On 2023-03-14 18:52, Ed Jaffe wrote:
On 3/14/2023 3:07 PM, David Spiegel wrote:
I went over to the 2nd in command VM guy and asked why I would have
to wait a week for delivery of a t
On 3/14/2023 6:05 PM, David Spiegel wrote:
Hi Ed,
I knew that there were means of ensuring integrity and that's why I
asked the question.
It was a brilliant question!
His ignorance about why he should trust tape was the same reason he
distrusted the communication line.
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Yes, there are indeed Linux package managers. They don't get beyond the
"replace the entire package" level. THey have no concept of individual
fixes and their interactions.
On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 7:14 PM Seymour J Metz wrote:
> There are a lot of people using package managers in the Linux world
Hi Ed,
Thank you for the compliment!
(Yeshiva training really pays off for arguing logically.)
Now that I'm telling bank stories (this should really be a separate
thread) ...
At the same bank ...
One day (1990), a colleague comes over and asks for help with his batch
job failing.
I looked at i
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