Re: Dataset contention

2021-03-27 Thread Peter Relson
I have a dataset that is allocated to multiple jobs but with a disp=shr And I am getting contention messages MIM1039I I was always under the impression That if the dataset was allocated with disp=shr I have to believe that MIM would not issue a contention message if all the allocations were

FILEDATA=RECORD writes atomic?

2021-03-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
(cross-posting) FILEDATA=RECORD causes each record to be prefixed with a quasi-RDW. Is that done by the kernel or the access method? In either case, if two processes allocate the same UNIX file witn FILEDATA=RECORD, PATHOPTS=O_APPEND, will the PUTs appear atomic or might the RDWs and bodies from t

New z/Architecture Instructions and Mnemonics

2021-03-27 Thread Jim Thomas
Hello All ... I'm trying to find details on some of the newer mnemonics ... starting with SLLHH (among others) but have not found any Principles of Operations or HLASM doc .. Would anybody be kind enough to point me in the right direction ??.. Kind Regards Jim Thomas ---

IND$FILE and zFS?

2021-03-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
I'm involved in a thread on ISPF-L: https://groups.google.com/a/nd.edu/g/ispf-l-list/c/aoszBZ0Z5WI/m/UvWM_WzCBQAJ I wonder if the OP there would do better to use zFS with better tools available such as chtag, extattr, and tr. But is IND$FILE zFS-savvy? -- gil -

Re: New z/Architecture Instructions and Mnemonics

2021-03-27 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
The latest PoOP for z15 has no such mnemonic as SLLHH. From what source do you think SLLHH is a valid instruction mnemonic? Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Thomas Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 2:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: IND$FILE and zFS?

2021-03-27 Thread Charles Mills
AFAIR no. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IND$FILE and zFS? I'm involved in a thread on ISPF-L: https://groups

Re: IND$FILE and zFS?

2021-03-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 11:36:31 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >AFAIR no. > RFE? >-Original Message- >From: Paul Gilmartin >Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:25 AM > >I'm involved in a thread on ISPF-L: > > https://groups.google.com/a/nd.edu/g/ispf-l-list/c/aoszBZ0Z5WI/m/UvWM_WzCBQAJ > >I w

Re: New z/Architecture Instructions and Mnemonics

2021-03-27 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 3/27/2021 11:01 AM, Jim Thomas wrote: Hello All ... I'm trying to find details on some of the newer mnemonics ... starting with SLLHH (among others) but have not found any Principles of Operations or HLASM doc .. Would anybody be kind enough to point me in the right direction ??.. There

Re: New z/Architecture Instructions and Mnemonics

2021-03-27 Thread Jim Thomas
Hello Peter, Thank you for your response .. I was at the same conclusion but, I've pulled it up with an online reference tool (a while back) and did also find it (while I've been searching), at one of the Assembler University presentations (206 to be specific .. powerful new z/Architecture ins

Re: New z/Architecture Instructions and Mnemonics

2021-03-27 Thread Jim Thomas
Hello Ed, Thank you for your email ... No Sir .. I've pulled it up with some online reference tool (a while back) and did also find it (while I've been searching), at one of the Assembler University presentations (206 to be specific .. powerful new z/Architecture instructions That Don't Requ

Re: New z/Architecture Instructions and Mnemonics

2021-03-27 Thread Charles Mills
Typo? Even presenters make mistakes. I know -- I've done it. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jim Thomas Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 2:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: New z/Architecture Instr

Re: IND$FILE and zFS?

2021-03-27 Thread Charles Mills
Waste of bits. IND$File is the b@stard child of an orphan. It's AMODE/RMODE 24, if that gives you any clue as to its currency. IMHO Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Saturday, March 27, 20

Re: New z/Architecture Instructions and Mnemonics

2021-03-27 Thread John Abell
Maybe, Page 7-22 shows SLHHHR and SLHHLR so maybe? John T. Abell Tel:800-295-7608Option 4 President International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com Fax:800-295-7609 International: 1-416-593-5579 International Software Produ

Re: IND$FILE and zFS?

2021-03-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 14:45:37 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >Waste of bits. IND$File is the b@stard child of an orphan. It's AMODE/RMODE >24, if that gives you any clue as to its currency. > >IMHO > Yes, but ... The use of IND$FILE remains so prevalent (partly because of absurd site security rules

Re: New z/Architecture Instructions and Mnemonics

2021-03-27 Thread Jim Thomas
Hello John, No.. those are subtract instructions ... I was hunting for the shift instructions ... thank you though... Kind Regards Jim Thomas -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Abell Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 16:52 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.

Re: New z/Architecture Instructions and Mnemonics

2021-03-27 Thread Jim Thomas
Sir, I agree .. done it a lot ... plus my saying 'oops' in the midst of a presentation .. 😊 ... Will keep digging .. Kind Regards Jim Thomas -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 16:42 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSER

Multiprise 3000 models

2021-03-27 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
(It is historical, but still on-topic) Some sources say there are three MP 3000 models: 7060-H30 7060-H50 7060-H70 H30 and H50 had 1 CP, H70 had two. However HCD dialog showed also device type 3000. AFAIR it was 3000-A10 and 3000-A20. I also found them described as "Multiprise 3000 Starter Pac

Re: IND$FILE and zFS?

2021-03-27 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 27.03.2021 o 22:58, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 14:45:37 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: Waste of bits. IND$File is the b@stard child of an orphan. It's AMODE/RMODE 24, if that gives you any clue as to its currency. IMHO Yes, but ... The use of IND$FILE remains so prevalen

Re: LFAREA in z/OS 2.3

2021-03-27 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 26.03.2021 o 22:00, Crawford, Robert C. pisze: According to the documentation, after z/OS 2.3 the LFAREA parameter no longer reserves real memory for large frames at IPL. Instead, it's a limit on the number of fixed 1M frames. Since it's now a limit is there any harm in leaving LFAREA

Re: IND$FILE and zFS?

2021-03-27 Thread Charles Mills
Here's another clue as to the last time it was current: COPYRIGHT IBM CORP 1983,1988; Not sure how it allocates files. There is no character string 'ALLOC' nor is there an SVC 99 (X'0a63'). Do you know IND$FILE's foreign cousin, APVUFILE? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainfram

Re: IND$FILE and zFS?

2021-03-27 Thread Bill Godfrey
There is the character string 'IKJDAIR'. On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 17:30:18 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >Here's another clue as to the last time it was current: > >COPYRIGHT IBM CORP 1983,1988; > >Not sure how it allocates files. There is no character string 'ALLOC' nor is >there an SVC 99 (X'0a63').

Re: Multiprise 3000 models

2021-03-27 Thread Attila Fogarasi
There was also a P30 model which was PID version of the H30 with a software preload. The "starter pack" that I remember was a pre-configured software offering (so you could get a turnkey system). Note these were 1GB, 2GB and 4GB machines hard to buy a laptop with 1GB memory now, 20 years lat

Re: [External] Multiprise 3000 models

2021-03-27 Thread Pommier, Rex
IIRC, the H55 and H75 were the equivalent generation 9672 machines that got tagged as Multiprise 3000 to get them out at a lower price point. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Radoslaw Skorupka Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSER

Re: New z/Architecture Instructions and Mnemonics

2021-03-27 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I looked up that SHARE presentation, and indeed it does mention new shift instructions like SLLHH, etc., but that presentation is just plain wrong - there are no such instructions in z architecture. SLLG / SRLG is what you need to use for that purpose. HTH Peter -Original Message- Fro

Re: Abend S052-104

2021-03-27 Thread Gary Weinhold
Rob Scott wrote (snipped): From the description of the abend, if your user code runs as a jobstep in something like a JES initiator, you will always be at risk from a prior batch job performing an LXRES for PC-ss (without an initiator restart). ... Is there any reason why your user-ASID ow