"Is that why you took the U out of COLOUR and LABOUR and the I from
ALUMINIUM? Or is it the Elizabethan English that America adopted?
Perpetuating Manglish?"
Do you bite your thumb at me sir?
The British Scientist (Davy) who discovered ALUMINUM named it that. It is
we Americans who are using the
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From: Joe Monk
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2020 20:27:39 -0500
This is explained on page 113:
"The example also shows the difference between cross memory data
Sorry for the garbled message -.If the AS2 has the capability of switching to
supervisor state; why can't it (AS2) create
its own Cross Memory environment allowing Address Space (AS1) the ability to
issue a PC to AS2 and the PC Service Routine use AR Mode to transfer data from
the Target Address
"Sorry for the garbled message -.If the AS2 has the capability of switching
to supervisor state; why can't it (AS2) create
its own Cross Memory environment allowing Address Space (AS1) the ability
to issue a PC to AS2 and the PC Service Routine use AR Mode to transfer
data from the Target Address S
Part of designing a server address space is creating a mechanism for clients to
identify it. The easy way is to be a subsystem.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on beh
I once asked why nobody had developed an FTP protocol built on SCTP, which
would eleiminate the need to create a secondary channel that the firewall might
not accomodate. It apears that somebody has:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/scftp/
If this gains traction, it might be worthwhile to do a
Thanks for the input folks.
Brian: I have it working just fine, the setup was easy as you said - the
reason I started this thread was because I couldn't understand why the
limitations on the TCP port number and the philosophy behind the routing.
It seems pretty weird to me that IBM implemented IC
Seymour and Joe
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Thanks for participating in this dialogue.
I'm still unclear on this procedure.
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Seymour
I agree that AS2 should be a subsystem, I cant see every Address Space that
needs to access data be defined as a subsystem.
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Joe
'Im not sure I understand you comment -
Are You saying that
I tend to side with Tony on this one. One can find many things on the
Internet that are either imprecise or just plain wrong. The meaning of
"computer", like many words, has evolved over time. At some point post
WWII, certainly by the 1960s for the general public, an Abacus, a slide
ruler, a d
Christian,
I was dismayed too when I first discovered this limitation. The OSA-C
was originally intended to eliminate the local 3174 requirement. It was
not really designed to replace the 3172-003, which is what many are
using it for today.
And, you also need to look back at the OSA-C's roots
Then there was the term "analog computer".
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http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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To: IBM
I didn't claim that "every Address Space that needs to access data be defined
as a subsystem." What I did say is that the easy way for a *server* to provide
access is to be a subsystem. The address spaces accessing data from that server
would not normally be subsystems. Don't confuse the address
Thanks Tony, it makes calmer knowing I'm not the only one being confused
about this :-)
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 3:18 PM Tony Thigpen wrote:
> Christian,
> I was dismayed too when I first discovered this limitation. The OSA-C
> was originally intended to eliminate the local 3174 requirement. It w
Have to say I agree. Had not thought of that. I was thinking more in terms
of in-memory variable primitives, not in terms of containers (as C++ calls
them). A list.move() function might even change the memory location of the
object moved -- that might be implementation dependent.
Charles
-Or
Seymour I am agreeing with you
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From: Seymour J Metz
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 13:47:32 +
I didn't claim that "every Address Space that needs to acc
Is that _The Mythical Man-Month_? Excellent book. A few decades ago my boss
bought a bunch of copies and passed them around; I read it with much interest
and have valued its lessons since then.
...Come to think of it, I should get myself a copy and reread it.
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Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmai
Coïncidentally I'm reading Bill Bryson's _A Brief History of Everything_, where
I'm informed that I was mistaken about the "aluminum/aluminium" story. I'd
always heard that it was named "aluminium", but an early news article about in
the USA misspelled it "aluminum" and the misnomer stuck.
Bry
Aha! Yet a third story; in this one Davy started out with "aluminum" and the
Europeans ~added~ the 'i'.
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Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313
/* Ignorance is the mother of adventure. -Hagar the Horrible */
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [m
Because I know you were all breathlessly awaiting the verdict on the great
"aluminum"/"aluminium" controversy, I went to find more information. At
https://books.google.com/books?id=YjMwYAAJ&pg=PA201 you can find a page in
_Elements of Chemical Philosophy_ by Humphrey Davy (who first isolate
Personally, I prefer a more authoritative source than Google, but it is
almost the same story:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/aluminum-vs-aluminium
Tony Thigpen
Bob Bridges wrote on 7/19/20 6:09 PM:
Because I know you were all breathlessly awaiting the verdict on the great
"al
Thanks to Charles M for getting this into a form without the HTML.
First of all -- I am assuming PCRTN resides in the Private Area of the
Accessing Address Space (AS1) and PCRTN is defined as a Non- Space
Switching, Stacking PC , with a System LX. Is My understanding correct ?
No it is not. A
Please note the 31-bit Java variant offers something less than 2 GB of
memory per Java Virtual Machine to programs. The 64-bit release is
required if you want more.
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Timothy Sipples
I.T. Architect Executive
Digital Asset & Other Industry Solutions
IBM Z & LinuxONE
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Mike Schwab wrote:
>Port 23 is standard telnet. Port 3270 is non-standard TN3270E.
IANA has actually reserved port 3270 for "Verismart":
https://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers/service-names-port-numbers.txt
I have no idea what Verismart is, or was. It's probably moribund, l
Current international agreement for all new elements is to end them with
-ium.
Odd how the USA hangs on to impractical learnings. Even the UK moved to SI
units while I was at school in the 1960s.
Took me a while to get used to a gallon that isn't a gallon and a pint that
isn't a pint (16 oz vs 20
Always interesting, if you like words (and I do). Thanks.
"Google", you say? Google isn't the source of my information, only the
warehouse (so to speak). The first source I quoted was Mr Davy himself. But
maybe you meant Wikipedia; a lot of people express varying amounts of derision
when th
Brian Westerman wrote:
>So you are using TCP to get to them inside the ICC, but they
>are technically local 3270 terminals. I think you can make
>some of them printers if you want, but that seems like a waste.
I recently worked with an organization that configured an OSA-ICC TN3270E
printer sess
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