Sorry for the garbled message -.If the AS2 has the capability of switching to supervisor state; why can't it (AS2) create its own Cross Memory environment allowing Address Space (AS1) the ability to issue a PC to AS2 and the PC Service Routine use AR Mode to transfer data from the Target Address Space (AS2) to the Accessing Address Space (AS1) ?
---------- Original Message ---------- From: Joe Monk <joemon...@gmail.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years? Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 06:22:14 -0500 "Is that why you took the U out of COLOUR and LABOUR and the I from ALUMINIUM? Or is it the Elizabethan English that America adopted? Perpetuating Manglish?" Do you bite your thumb at me sir? The British Scientist (Davy) who discovered ALUMINUM named it that. It is we Americans who are using the correct name ... the British press felt that it should be in line with sodium and potassium and thus added to the spelling. Taking the "U" out of color and labor was a cost-saving measure. By doing so, it was estimated to save a page every eighteen. In the 1700's saving money on printing was no small endeavor. Joe On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 10:17 PM Wayne Bickerdike <wayn...@gmail.com> wrote: > *"I respectfully disagree. COBOL's mother is FLOW-MATIC. MOVE was > inFLOW-MATIC."* > > Is that why you took the U out of COLOUR and LABOUR and the I from > ALUMINIUM? Or is it the Elizabethan English that America adopted? > Perpetuating Manglish? > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 12:57 PM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > > > What are COMTRAN and FACT, chopped liver? > > > > > > -- > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf > > of Joe Monk [joemon...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 10:41 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years? > > > > "Historically, COBOL made the wrong choice when they codified COPY for > > INCLUDE and used MOVE." > > > > I respectfully disagree. COBOL's mother is FLOW-MATIC. MOVE was in > > FLOW-MATIC. > > > > Joe > > > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:52 PM Wayne Bickerdike <wayn...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Bob, > > > > > > David didn't say there were languages that did "moves". He said that > > there > > > are several languages that implement a copy verb that does what MOVE > does > > > in COBOL. > > > > > > Historically, COBOL made the wrong choice when they codified COPY for > > > INCLUDE and used MOVE. > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 12:51 AM Bob Bridges <robhbrid...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > You may have done so - by now I don't remember who said what first > :) - > > > > but I was referring to Mr Crayford's post below. As I understood > them, > > > > Tony Thigpen wrote that a MOVE is actually a copy, and Mr Crayford > > > > disagreed. I'm confused; is there any computer language in which the > > > verb > > > > MOVE exists and doesn't actually mean COPY? > > > > > > > > ...or SET, as you suggest. Yes, I like SET better. > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 > > > > > > > > /* In all affairs it's a healthy thing now and then to hang a > question > > > > mark on the things you have long taken for granted. -Bertrand > Russell > > > > (1872-1970) */ > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > ] > > On > > > > Behalf Of Wayne Bickerdike > > > > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 04:42 > > > > > > > > I referred to this since someone said that COBOL is English like. As > > such > > > > the language is wrong because it does not describe correctly in > English > > > > what happens. COPY, REPLICATE, PROPAGATE would all be more precise > > > English. > > > > > > > > IDEAL(CA/Broadcom) has MOVE and SET. They do the same thing. Which > do > > > you > > > > prefer: > > > > > > > > MOVE A TO B or > > > > SET B = A ? > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 4:30 PM Bob Bridges < > robhbrid...@gmail.com > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Am I missing something obvious, here? In what computer language(s) > > is > > > a > > > > > move not actually a copy? And how? > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: David Crayford > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 00:53 > > > > > > > > > > I beg to differ! For the programming languages I code in use there > > is a > > > > > huge difference between copy and move semantics. > > > > > > > > > > --- On 2020-07-17 11:12 AM, Tony Thigpen wrote: > > > > > > From the start, MOVE in the programming world has been equated to > > > what > > > > > > you are calling a COPY. > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Wayne V. 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