Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

2020-04-04 Thread David Price
tn3270 X recap == Just a point about the names of the 3270 emulators in this discussion. The "Brown University 3270 emulator" that the OP was referring to is called "tn3270 X" (not x3270). It is also called "tn3270" ambiguously. tn3270 X supports Mac OS X 10.1 through macOS 10.14 Moja

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

2020-04-04 Thread Raphaël Jacquot
Le 04/04/2020 à 10:21, David Price a écrit : > tn3270 X recap > == > Just a point about the names of the 3270 emulators in this discussion. > > The "Brown University 3270 emulator" that the OP was referring to is > called "tn3270 X" (not x3270). It is also called "tn3270" ambiguously.

Re: ESPIE question (does ESPIE "cover" ATTACH'd sub-tasks)

2020-04-04 Thread Peter Relson
ESPIE beats everything. That's the point. If (a.) all you need to trap is program checks; and (b.) you expect a bunch of them -- use ESPIE. I'd say "If ...you expect a bunch of them" then make every effort to redesign your application. Because "no program check" can be thought to beat ESPIE

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Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

2020-04-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 19:21:51 +1100, David Price wrote: > >X3270 is free and supports macOS 10.15 Catalina >=== >The OP accidentally mentioned x3270. x3270 runs under the >X Window System (including on a Mac). It is free and is supported >by Paul Mattes o

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

2020-04-04 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On 4/4/20 9:51 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: I tried building x3270 on Mojave from source. Failed with: 538 $ make did you ./configure first? http://x3270.bgp.nu/Build.html -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.com/~jax # thinking, a way of s

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

2020-04-04 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On 4/4/20 9:51 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: I tried building x3270 on Mojave from source. from http://x3270.bgp.nu/Build.html Notes for MacOS X Everything except x3270 is built the usual (Unix) way on MacOS X. But to build x3270, you first need to install XQuartz (http://xquartz.macosfor

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

2020-04-04 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On 4/4/20 9:51 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: I tried building x3270 on Mojave from source. Also, x3270 is in the Mac Ports tree. https://www.macports.org/ Install Mac Ports and then: sudo port install x3270 -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.c

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

2020-04-04 Thread Joe Monk
x3270 is also in homebrew... https://formulae.brew.sh/formula/x3270 Joe On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 11:43 AM Jack J. Woehr wrote: > On 4/4/20 9:51 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > > I tried building x3270 on Mojave from source. > > Also, x3270 is in the Mac Ports tree. https://www.macports.org/ > > Inst

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

2020-04-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 10:38:28 -0600, Jack J. Woehr wrote: >On 4/4/20 9:51 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> I tried building x3270 on Mojave from source. > >from http://x3270.bgp.nu/Build.html > > > Notes for MacOS X > >Everything except x3270 is built the usual (Unix) way on MacOS X. But to >build

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

2020-04-04 Thread Joe Monk
Paul, Just use homebrew ... you'll save yourself a lot of headache. If you dont have it already: /bin/bash -c "$(curl -fsSL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install.sh)" then: brew install x3270 Joe On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 12:05 PM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dm

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

2020-04-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 12:08:06 -0500, Joe Monk wrote: > >Just use homebrew ... you'll save yourself a lot of headache. >... >brew install x3270 > Nope. See the flame war on: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core/issues/46519 -- gil --

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

2020-04-04 Thread Jack J. Woehr
I just installed from Mac Ports and it runs. On 4/4/20 11:23 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 12:08:06 -0500, Joe Monk wrote: Just use homebrew ... you'll save yourself a lot of headache. ... brew install x3270 Nope. See the flame war on: https://github.com/Homebrew/ho

Re: ESPIE question (does ESPIE "cover" ATTACH'd sub-tasks)

2020-04-04 Thread Charles Mills
Let's say you were writing a report generator. You are processing data of unknown quality using field definitions generated by inexperienced programmers, and report programs written by non-programmers. You might expect a fair number of arithmetic operations on packed fields that contained invalid d

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

2020-04-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 11:27:44 -0600, Jack J. Woehr wrote: >I just installed from Mac Ports and it runs. > Seems pretty far downlevel. They talk about not having support for a decade. But it may matter little. OK. Got x3270 v3.6ga11 from http://x3270.bgp.nu/ My mistake was trying to configure; ma

Re: ESPIE question (does ESPIE "cover" ATTACH'd sub-tasks)

2020-04-04 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 4/4/2020 10:29 AM, Charles Mills wrote: Let's say you were writing a report generator. You are processing data of unknown quality using field definitions generated by inexperienced programmers, and report programs written by non-programmers. You might expect a fair number of arithmetic operati

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

2020-04-04 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On 4/4/20 12:04 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Works. Doesn't have nearly the Fonts I'm accustomed to on UNIX. */opt/local/bin/xset fp+ /opt/local/lib/x3270/fonts/* Assuming that's where you installed x3270 -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.co

Re: ESPIE question (does ESPIE "cover" ATTACH'd sub-tasks)

2020-04-04 Thread Charles Mills
Nice! They sneak these new instruction in while I'm not looking. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2020 11:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ESPIE question (does

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Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

2020-04-04 Thread Al Ferguson
Actually IBM includes a TN3270E Emulator within the “IBM Explorer for z/OS”. It works fairly well. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSBDYH/welcome.html https://developer.ibm.com/mainframe/products/downlo

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

2020-04-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 12:40:09 -0600, Jack J. Woehr wrote: >On 4/4/20 12:04 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> Works. Doesn't have nearly the Fonts I'm accustomed to on UNIX. > >*/opt/local/bin/xset fp+ /opt/local/lib/x3270/fonts/* > >Assuming that's where you installed x3270 > Ah! More complicated than

Re: ESPIE question (does ESPIE "cover" ATTACH'd sub-tasks)

2020-04-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
If I expected a lot of bad data, I might use TP. But if I expected them to be rare, I'd probably set an (E)SPIE. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Ed Jaff

Re: ESPIE question (does ESPIE "cover" ATTACH'd sub-tasks)

2020-04-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
No, I would use (E)SPIE to trap the interrupt, assuming that I didn't have to keep tearing it down between data, and use ESTAE to trap ABENDS. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV

Re: ESPIE question (does ESPIE "cover" ATTACH'd sub-tasks)

2020-04-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 23:54:58 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >If I expected a lot of bad data, I might use TP. But if I expected them to be >rare, I'd probably set an (E)SPIE. > Performance? Do the pertinent exceptions set testable condition codes with maskable interrupts? Anything but a cache faul

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

2020-04-04 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On 4/4/20 1:22 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: And it works. Gasp! Congrats! With our continued effort, your and my $2500 Macs will come to approximate the usefulness of a $550 Linux box. -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.com/~jax # thinking,

Re: ESPIE question (does ESPIE "cover" ATTACH'd sub-tasks)

2020-04-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
A TP followed by a conditional branch is more expensive then having no instruction there. So it depends on exactly what you're doing and the percent of bad data which approach is least expensive. OTOH, an inexperienced programmer is more likely to get it right with TP. _

Re: Free 3270 emulator for Mac OS

2020-04-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
A few more notes on nomenclature. TN3270 and TN3270E (upper case) are protocols published by the IETF; programs implimenting those protocols are TN3270 clients, not TN3270 emulators. TN3270 clients are not 3270 emulators, because they do not support any of the link protocols that real 3270s do,