Re: How many ways can one sentence be wrong dept

2020-01-12 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Sun, 12 Jan 2020, at 04:24, Phil Smith III wrote: > From a book: > > "... located a Trojan virus during a routine mainframe defrag." I dunno about the first bit, but "routine mainframe defrag" is fine. DFDSS has a DEFRAG verb. -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -

Re: TN3270 from 3174 -ExSel Problem

2020-01-12 Thread Dave Wade
>>Dave, >> >>What model 3174? >> >>Joe > >It turns out its more the terminal that is the issue. The Memorex Telex can be >configured with an Emulated or Native mode keyboard. In Emulated >Mode ExSel does not work. It turns out there are two setup modes for the >terminal "on-line" which is entere

Re: Detecting F3 (End) in Panel Rexx

2020-01-12 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Perfect - thank you - just learned something new. Lionel B. Dyck < Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe D

Re: z15 System Recover Boost

2020-01-12 Thread Jim Elliott
Feature Code 6802: SRB Upgrade Record (annual charge) and Feature Code 9930: SRB Upgrade Authorization (no charge) are required only to make use of the optional System Recovery Boost Upgrade Record, which allows the temporary activation of additional zIIP processor resources in conjunction with

Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-12 Thread Matt Hogstrom
I was talking to some of our new hires the other day and none of them had heard of SNA, APPLIDs or VTAM. I prefer to think of this as the evolution of the mainframe continuing to preserve investment over time :) Still, cloud continues to try and replicate the scalability of Sysplex and TCPIP

Re: How many ways can one sentence be wrong dept

2020-01-12 Thread Charles Mills
When you compress a PDS aren't you essentially de-fragging it? No, not the way the word is used on PC disks, but you are essentially consolidating fragments of free space into one big chunk of free space. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LIST

Re: How many ways can one sentence be wrong dept

2020-01-12 Thread Phil Smith III
Jeremy Nicoll wrote: >I dunno about the first bit, but "routine mainframe defrag" is fine. >DFDSS has a DEFRAG verb. Well, ya larns sumtin' ever' day! Thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instruction

Re: How many ways can one sentence be wrong dept

2020-01-12 Thread Mike Schwab
PDS Compress is moving modules forward into space formerly used by updated or removed members. ADRDSSU consolidates multiple extent datasets into less extents (hopefully down to 1) and moves datasets adjacent to free space to have larger areas of free space. On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 11:32 AM Char

Re: How many ways can one sentence be wrong dept

2020-01-12 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Out of curiosity, its been a while since I did storage admin but it occurred to me that for the most part a lot of the work in defragging, worrying about disk geometry and other issues are really not / less of an issue with cache and SSD technologies. So, perhaps naive on my part, but it would

Re: What is a mainframe?

2020-01-12 Thread scott Ford
Matt: I totally agree. A lot of folks dont realize its not always TCPIP and the Web, there's more to z/OS then those items. Many aspects that can be developed and used. I spent 15+ yrs in the VTAM/NCP/NPSI arena including hardware and software and it provided IMHO an excellent foundation. Regards

Re: How many ways can one sentence be wrong dept

2020-01-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
FWIW, defragging is still an issue in the PC world. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Matt Hogstrom Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 1:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re

Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: Job Posting

2020-01-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
Don't poke fun at the banking industry for stupid names; we have plenty of examples in our own back yard ;-) -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Adam Jacobvitz <02b29b762ea6-dma

Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: Job Posting

2020-01-12 Thread Adam Jacobvitz
I guess I hope my logic (if it's true and if it can be generalized) is "if" and not "if and only if" :-). Adam Sent from ProtonMail mobile Original Message On Jan 12, 2020, 11:31 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: > Don't poke fun at the banking industry for stupid names; we have plen

Using OMVS cksum with z/OS datasets

2020-01-12 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Is there a way to use the OMVS cksum command against a z/OS dataset? I tried: cksum "//'hlq.test.file'" And it objects but it works great on OMVS files. tia Lionel B. Dyck < Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com "Worry more about your character than

Re: How many ways can one sentence be wrong dept

2020-01-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 13:59:21 -0500, Matt Hogstrom wrote: >Out of curiosity, its been a while since I did storage admin but it occurred >to me that for the most part a lot of the work in defragging, worrying about >disk geometry and other issues are really not / less of an issue with cache >and

Re: Using OMVS cksum with z/OS datasets

2020-01-12 Thread Al Ferguson
Lionel, Access to MVS Files from OMVS via "//‘your.filename.goes.here’” only works for some commands. Pre-Allocated DD’s are not available to the OMVS thread (usually). But you might try a stream … try [cat | cp] "//‘your.filename.goes.here’” | cksum I believe you can cat (copy to std

Re: Using OMVS cksum with z/OS datasets

2020-01-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 14:49:20 -0600, Al Ferguson wrote: > >Access to MVS Files from OMVS via "//‘your.filename.goes.here’” only works for >some commands. Pre-Allocated DD’s are not available to the OMVS thread >(usually). But you might try a stream … try > > [cat | cp] "//‘your.filename.goes

Re: Using OMVS cksum with z/OS datasets

2020-01-12 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Thanks for the idea - what I'm trying to avoid is copying (cp) the z/OS dataset to OMVS unless it has changed by comparing it's hash to the hash of the OMVS copy. Guess either way a copy will have to be done so I might as well just copy the z/OS to OMVS regardless. Lionel B. Dyck < Website: h

Re: Using OMVS cksum with z/OS datasets

2020-01-12 Thread Al Ferguson
Lionel, Another option would be to use a REXX that calls the CSF API’s to do this. I think this is the coding you would need: RC=COPIES('FF'x,4); RsC=COPIES('FF'x,4) ExitDataLnth=COPIES('00'x,4);ExitData=''

Re: Using OMVS cksum with z/OS datasets -- RCF on "cat"

2020-01-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
(Cross-posting to IBM-MAIN and MVS-OE) This thread on IBM-MAIN impelled me to this RCF. Do I understand correctly? Hello, MHVRCFs. In: z/OS Version 2 Release 4 UNIX System Services Command Reference IBM SA23-2280-40 I see: cat - Concatenate or display text files Whereas in POSIX:

Re: Using OMVS cksum with z/OS datasets

2020-01-12 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Slick - thank you Lionel B. Dyck < Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Al

Re: Using OMVS cksum with z/OS datasets

2020-01-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 15:19:14 -0600, Lionel B Dyck wrote: >Thanks for the idea - what I'm trying to avoid is copying (cp) the z/OS >dataset to OMVS unless it has changed by comparing it's hash to the hash of >the OMVS copy. Guess either way a copy will have to be done so I might as >well just c

Re: How many ways can one sentence be wrong dept

2020-01-12 Thread Mike Schwab
PDSs are limited to 16 extents, 64K tracks, and one volume. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.idad400/allocsp.htm PDSEs are limited to 123 extents and one volume. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.idad400/allocsp.htm O

Re: How many ways can one sentence be wrong dept

2020-01-12 Thread Matt Hogstrom
That was my thinking too Paul. We should be able to mask a lot of this in software and not have to do a lot of unnecessary “busy” work. Part of the challenge is to identify some behaviors that could be deprecated. We have a lot of baggage in the z/OS wagon. The defrag comment got me to th

Re: How many ways can one sentence be wrong dept

2020-01-12 Thread Mike Schwab
Exactly. Let the channels emulate CKD and have maps to the actual data. NVME even got rid of the hard disk emulation layer. On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 6:41 PM Matt Hogstrom wrote: > > That was my thinking too Paul. We should be able to mask a lot of this in > software and not have to do a lot of

Re: How many ways can one sentence be wrong dept

2020-01-12 Thread Martin Packer
I’m wondering about channel program efficiency, though I have no evidence this is a major thing. Martin Packer > On 12 Jan 2020, at 18:59, Matt Hogstrom wrote: > > Out of curiosity, its been a while since I did storage admin but it occurred to me that for the most part a lot of the work in def