I guess I hope my logic (if it's true and if it can be generalized) is "if" and not "if and only if" :-).
Adam Sent from ProtonMail mobile -------- Original Message -------- On Jan 12, 2020, 11:31 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: > Don't poke fun at the banking industry for stupid names; we have plenty of > examples in our own back yard ;-) > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of > Adam Jacobvitz <000002b29b762ea6-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 1:31 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: Job Posting > > A good name implies good banking practices. > > Adam > > Sent from ProtonMail Mobile > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 10:22 AM, Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > >> The logo may look like five thirds but the name is Fifth Third. >> >> -- >> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz >> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of >> Joe Monk <joemon...@gmail.com> >> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 1:04 PM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: Job Posting >> >> Technically it should be five thirds bank. >> >> Joe >> >> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 11:53 Mike Schwab <mike.a.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Fifth is 1/5, Third is 1/3, >>> Fifth Third might be expressed as 1/5 1/3. >>> Maybe abbreviate to /5 /3 assuming the 1. >>> Improperly drop the first / to get the 5/3. >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 12:34 PM Chicklon, Thomas >>> <000001fbdb5fcb44-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: >>> > >>> > 5/3 is in fact a play on the name of the bank: Fifth Third Bank. As >>> another poster pointed out the origins of the name date back many years >>> when the Fifth National Bank and Third National Bank merged. It is also >>> used on logos, and is the general URL for the bank: www.53.com >>> > >>> > Tom Chicklon >>> > Fifth Third Bank >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On >>> Behalf Of R.S. >>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 12:43 PM >>> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >>> > Subject: Re: Job Posting >>> > >>> > **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** >>> > >>> > **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or >>> unexpected emails** >>> > >>> > I'm aware it is even more off-topic, so forgive me my curiosity: >>> > What is the meaning of "5/3" in the name? >>> > I think I saw other banking companies with similar numbers in the name. >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Radoslaw Skorupka >>> > Lodz, Poland >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > W dniu 2020-01-08 o 15:58, Dave Jousma pisze: >>> > > All, I am advertising a publicly posted job listing at 5/3 Bank in >>> Cincinnati, OH/Grand Rapids, MI. 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