I guess I hope my logic (if it's true and if it can be generalized) is "if" and 
not "if and only if" :-).

Adam

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On Jan 12, 2020, 11:31 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:

> Don't poke fun at the banking industry for stupid names; we have plenty of 
> examples in our own back yard ;-)
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> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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> A good name implies good banking practices.
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> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 10:22 AM, Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote:
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>> The logo may look like five thirds but the name is Fifth Third.
>>
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>> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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>> Joe Monk <joemon...@gmail.com>
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>> Technically it should be five thirds bank.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 11:53 Mike Schwab <mike.a.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Fifth is 1/5, Third is 1/3,
>>> Fifth Third might be expressed as 1/5 1/3.
>>> Maybe abbreviate to /5 /3 assuming the 1.
>>> Improperly drop the first / to get the 5/3.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 12:34 PM Chicklon, Thomas
>>> <000001fbdb5fcb44-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > 5/3 is in fact a play on the name of the bank: Fifth Third Bank. As
>>> another poster pointed out the origins of the name date back many years
>>> when the Fifth National Bank and Third National Bank merged. It is also
>>> used on logos, and is the general URL for the bank: www.53.com
>>> >
>>> > Tom Chicklon
>>> > Fifth Third Bank
>>> >
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>>> > I'm aware it is even more off-topic, so forgive me my curiosity:
>>> > What is the meaning of "5/3" in the name?
>>> > I think I saw other banking companies with similar numbers in the name.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Radoslaw Skorupka
>>> > Lodz, Poland
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > W dniu 2020-01-08 o 15:58, Dave Jousma pisze:
>>> > > All, I am advertising a publicly posted job listing at 5/3 Bank in
>>> Cincinnati, OH/Grand Rapids, MI. We are looking to add to our staff a
>>> Systems Programmer, with a primary focus on Networking support (VTAM,
>>> TCPIP, OSA, etc), amongst other typical systems programmer
>>> responsibilities. If interested, use this link to submit your
>>> qualifications. If you have any questions, respond to me directly, please
>>> don’t spam the list.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1DQJCSKm8jP5ky2GfcUNCnHlgKtUC96LbArC39ynXrVqdjRYbRTQL8CirVaMCYJP5UrGVDH2sIpVbd0Jmd_85uMhA3qXTQmrrQeFaNTGsVuFRzCDWImkAD9O4esOlU0VURZjGelg-ZdZoVjW0VGZAbAx6QIoxd_13je5FXp1W11aMVzj-RBSFK6E8iHPdPL8uUJ8awjZ7tsq9mFmiUewo2l59IlrLWhO1N833YKwriJvIJhJ7eRzwMtQrbPhNP9pnr7zO1rdXp3I_0fEZ6KwTq4Idd0U4oTI_M27VXCxQwdr_kD2tuwYJ5y0ekTCmlxdToeUs_fvTjEtigUtT-teshs0shtZs0fnwK9sdD5Z5sqh_b0tzpvqJ7b2YMnzU9EfsYyuMrohKk1CgjTeWSkK9DnrnIPGOnJ8qSwLa6OFyzI7ubLHAS0wPV8TQu0McTjwT/https%3A%2F%2Ffifththird.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com%2Fen-US%2F53careers%2Fjob%2FCincinnati-OH%2FLead-Systems-Programmer---z-OS_R7080
>>> > >
>>> > > Lead Systems Programmer - z/OS
>>> > >
>>> > > Cincinnati, OH
>>> > > Grand Rapids, MI
>>> > >
>>> > > We connect great people to great opportunities. Are you ready to take
>>> the next step? Discover a career in banking at Fifth Third Bank.
>>> > > Produce solutions with a team of Mainframe Engineers with opportunity
>>> to expand knowledge and experience on technology that is at the core of our
>>> business. The opportunity is based in Cincinnati, Ohio with optional base
>>> location in Grand Rapids, Michigan and some work from home opportunity.
>>> > >
>>> > > GENERAL FUNCTION:
>>> > > Oversees and performs maintenance on existing software products.
>>> Assists in designing, developing, coding, testing and debugging new
>>> software or making enhancements to existing software. Works with technical
>>> staff to resolve software problems, coordinate projects and respond to
>>> suggestions for improvements and enhancements. Acts as team leader on
>>> projects.The position is on the Technical/Professional ladder at level 4 in
>>> the Systems Programming discipline.
>>> > > Responsible and accountable for risk by openly exchanging ideas and
>>> opinions, elevating concerns, and personally following policies and
>>> procedures as defined. Accountable for always doing the right thing for
>>> customers and colleagues, and ensures that actions and behaviors drive a
>>> positive customer experience. While operating within the Bank’s risk
>>> appetite, achieves results by consistently identifying, assessing,
>>> managing, monitoring, and reporting risks of all types.
>>> > >
>>> > > ESSENTIAL DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES:
>>> > > · Functions as a technical expert in the design, development,
>>> modification and debugging of programs, job streams, configurations, and
>>> other machine-readable material.
>>> > > · Develops project plans, work assignments, target dates and
>>> other aspects of assigned projects and communicates this information to
>>> senior management and the business unit.
>>> > > · Works independently designing and developing new software
>>> products or major enhancements to existing software.
>>> > > · Plays a key role as a team member or as an individual
>>> contributor for projects with varying complexities.
>>> > > · Assists with capacity and scalability planning for all
>>> network-related systems.
>>> > > · Oversees the advanced troubleshooting and problem resolution
>>> functions for Business and Infrastructure Application software products.
>>> > > · Functions as a lead in partnering with other business units
>>> in all activities around mainframe systems application design and
>>> implementation.
>>> > > · Provides strategic development recommendations to specific
>>> system applications areas as it relates to the selection, installation and
>>> networking of new software systems.
>>> > > · Researches new technologies and recommends process
>>> improvement solutions as it relates to the analysis, design and
>>> implementation of new applications.
>>> > > · Responsible for systems performance and resolution of
>>> production incidents, which may require 24x7 coverage.
>>> > > · Other duties as required.
>>> > >
>>> > > MINIMUM KNOWLEDGE, SKILLS AND ABILITIES REQUIRED:
>>> > > · Undergraduate degree or equivalent, with 4-6 years of
>>> experience in a mainframe z/OS environment.
>>> > > · Working Knowledge of TSO/ISPF, SDSF, JES, IPCS and USS on
>>> z/OS.
>>> > > · Working knowledge of TCP, UDP, ICMP, and VTAM communications.
>>> > > · Working knowledge of TN3270 and FTP communication protocols.
>>> > > · Working knowledge of encryption technologies and Certificate
>>> management.
>>> > >
>>> > > ADDITIONAL SKILLS A PLUS
>>> > > · Assembler, COBOL, REXX, and SAS programming.
>>> > > · Knowledge in Netview configurations and Clist coding.
>>> > > · SMF Log record analysis.
>>> > > · Mainframe Printing with LRS/VPS.
>>> > > · System Monitoring with Omegamon
>>> > > · Knowledge of SMTP/email processing.
>>> > > · Experience with SMP/E, IBM Connect Direct,
>>> > > · Experience managing CICS and MQ mainframe systems.
>>> > >
>>> > > Lead Systems Programmer - z/OS
>>> > > LOCATION -- Cincinnati, Ohio 45227
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> _____________________________________________________________________________________________________
>>> > > Dave Jousma
>>> > > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering
>>> > >
>>> > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand
>>> Rapids, MI 49546
>>> > > 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717
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