Disk space allocation question

2019-03-04 Thread Sean Gleann
Does z/OS / SMS have a set of default space allocation sizes and if so, where are they held and can I alter or control them? I have a situation where insufficient contiguous disk space results in the SPACE request parameters supplied for a DISP=(NEW...) file with values that are too low to fulfil t

Re: Disk space allocation question

2019-03-04 Thread Roger Lowe
On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 11:19:19 +, Sean Gleann wrote: >Does z/OS / SMS have a set of default space allocation sizes and if so, >where are they held and can I alter or control them? >I have a situation where insufficient contiguous disk space results in >the SPACE request parameters supplied for a

Re: Disk space allocation question

2019-03-04 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Sean Gleann wrote: >Does z/OS / SMS have a set of default space allocation sizes and if so, where >are they held and can I alter or control them? Look in ALLOCxx as kindly suggested by Roger Lowe. If you know what SMS routines were used, look at their definitions. >I have a situation where in

Re: Storage Question

2019-03-04 Thread Peter Relson
But not any address-space-related subpool such as 229,230,249. The only storage that persists past the life of an address space is common storage. You need storage in CSA or SQA or above the bar common. I want to make sure the Global storage is protected and can not be overridden. I don't kn

Re: CPU time and zIIP

2019-03-04 Thread Peter Relson
One regular misconception about (cycle time), irrespective of the type of processor the 'speed/cycle time' of ALL the processors is the SAME I'd disagree a bit. I think that the "misconception" is of conflating "speed" with "cycle time". It is true that the machine cycle time for all of the

Re: CPU time and zIIP

2019-03-04 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Not in RMF, in SDSF. You are correct the OP question was about cput time, and the answer was, cputime both gcpu and ziip cpu were combined on the SDSF DA panel, CPUTIME field, SDSF also shows cpu percent, so just a curiosity if SDSF combines the CPU percent, usage for each address space combi

Re: CPU time and zIIP

2019-03-04 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2019-03-03 o 17:07, Christopher Y. Blaicher pisze: ZIIP and ZAAP processors always run at full speed, even when running on a sub-capacity box. One thing, among many, I don't know is how IBM implements sub-capacity. Slow the clock speed? Skip cycles? All processors, including subcapaci

Re: CPU time and zIIP

2019-03-04 Thread Martin Packer
Would you expect Cycles-Per-Instruction (CPI) in SMF 113 to be larger for a subcapacity machine? Cheers, Martin Martin Packer zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troubleshooter, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https:

Re: CPU time and zIIP

2019-03-04 Thread Carmen Vitullo
bad assumption on my part that SDSF show's CPU and zIIP percent for each address space zAAP-Time zACP-Time GCP-Use% zAAP-Use% SzAAP% SzIIP% P Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Carmen Vitullo" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 7:28:54 AM Subject:

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

2019-03-04 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 14:50:27 -0500, Susan Shumway wrote: >In response to the comments about PDF file names, you REALLY don't want >to rename the PDFs. I think that the metadata for a PDF includes something called document title, and that the title can be displayed in the directory listing and use

Re: CPU time and zIIP

2019-03-04 Thread R.S.
Why are you asking? It is simple: clock remains the same for any subcapacity. Simply some cycles are taken by "dummy LPAR". How does it relate to CPI? It does not affect... -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2019-03-04 o 14:51, Martin Packer pisze: Would you expect Cycles-Per-Inst

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

2019-03-04 Thread Kirk Wolf
For me, organizing into directories isn't that useful: my pattern is to open the directory in nautilus and then type a word like "unix" and then I see all of the documents with Unix in the title. And it would also break inter-document links, which I find useful. On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 12:21 PM Pa

Re: CPU time and zIIP

2019-03-04 Thread Jim Mulder
There is no "dummy LPAR". Millicode periodically executes a loop to waste some time. The logical processor remains dispatched to the physical processor while that is happening, so the wasted time is included in the CPU Timer for the logical processor, and thus is charged to the dispatched work

Re: Disk space allocation question [EXTERNAL]

2019-03-04 Thread Feller, Paul
It is my understanding that the ALLOC should not step if you have SPACE coded in your JCL. By default you should get your space request, though it might be in more than one extent (up to 5). Now if you have some 3rd party software installed it might be stepping in to prevent the initial X37 ab

Re: Disk space allocation question [EXTERNAL]

2019-03-04 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
There are ACS options: ACS routines can assign a Dataclass with Space Atributes plus the option that it will override space in JCL, even for non-SMS managed datasets. For SMS managed datasets, the DataClass' Space Constraint Relief options can adjust space allocations. Kees > -Original Mes

Re: CPU time and zIIP

2019-03-04 Thread R.S.
Dummy LPAR or milicode waste the cycles - nevermind. My point was there are some cycles lost, not longer (slower) cycles. Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2019-03-04 o 16:39, Jim Mulder pisze: There is no "dummy LPAR". Millicode periodically executes a loop to waste so

Re: CPU time and zIIP

2019-03-04 Thread Martin Packer
And that is precisely why I asked the question: To get people thinking about how this might show up instrumentation. (And no I didn't think there was a dummy LPAR.) Cheers, Martin Martin Packer zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troubleshooter, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_p

How many asterisks to change a lightbulb?

2019-03-04 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
On two different RACF plexes, we have these two profiles in the SDSF class: ISFCMD.ODSP.* (G) ISFCMD.ODSP.** (G) I'm confounded to explain the difference between one or two asterisks. Help? (I know this should go to the RACF List, but that does not work in my office.) . . J.O.Skip Robinson Sout

Re: How many asterisks to change a lightbulb?

2019-03-04 Thread Edgington, Jerry
Skip, One * means one node, where ** means zero more nodes. ISFCMD.ODSP.* (G) ISFCMD.ODSP.TEST ISFCMD.ODSP.** (G) ISFCMD.ODSP.TEST.MOD2 For example -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Se

Re: CPU time and zIIP

2019-03-04 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 3/4/2019 5:39 AM, R.S. wrote: W dniu 2019-03-03 o 17:07, Christopher Y. Blaicher pisze: ZIIP and ZAAP processors always run at full speed, even when running on a sub-capacity box. One thing, among many, I don't know is how IBM implements sub-capacity.  Slow the clock speed? Skip cycles? Al

Re: [EXTERNAL] How many asterisks to change a lightbulb?

2019-03-04 Thread Horne, Jim - James S
* = a single qualifier ** = 0 or more qualifiers -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 11:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] How many asterisks to change a ligh

Re: [EXTERNAL] How many asterisks to change a lightbulb?

2019-03-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
The meaning of wildcards depends on how you have RACF configured. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Horne, Jim - James S Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 12:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.

SMPE Internet Service Retrieval: TRANSFERONLY

2019-03-04 Thread Smith, Sean M
When using the SMPE Internet Service Retrieval to get HOLDDATA, I would like to use the TRANSFERONLY feature so I can place a single ORDER and then receive the HOLDDATA into my various SMPE environments. I am not seeing how to control where the HOLDDATA gets transferred however nor how to go ab

Re: CPU time and zIIP

2019-03-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
The last time that I looked SDSF did not document the actual meanings of all of the fields that it displayed. A lot of these discussions could go away if IBM spelled out the in SDSF documentation the actual meaning of each "CPU" field instead of using ambiguous boilerplate language. -- Shmuel

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

2019-03-04 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 17:55:59 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I can see making copies for laptops off of the Internet, but dead tree? I wish >I didn't believe you. There is one manual that I use nearly every day, and I routinely print it when a new one is released. That is the z/Architecture Refer

Re: SMPE Internet Service Retrieval: TRANSFERONLY

2019-03-04 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 17:07:42 +, Smith, Sean M wrote: >When using the SMPE Internet Service Retrieval to get HOLDDATA, I would like >to use the TRANSFERONLY feature so I can place a single ORDER and then receive >the HOLDDATA into my various SMPE environments. I am not seeing how to >contro

Re: SMPE Internet Service Retrieval: TRANSFERONLY

2019-03-04 Thread Smith, Sean M
Right, but then you have to point to the exact file in the exact sub directory that is dynamically created...so no way to just run a second step in the job and point to the file that I can see. Am I missing something obvious or did they make this is hard as humanly possible? Sean -Origina

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

2019-03-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 at 01:14, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Most of the links in: > asmr1023.pdfSC26-4940-08HLASM Language Reference > Bibliography > > ... don't work for me, or they try to downoad from IBM's server > when the docs shou

Re: SMPE Internet Service Retrieval: TRANSFERONLY

2019-03-04 Thread Tom Marchant
I think that they have made it as easy as humanly possible. I'm pretty sure you just specify the same path for SMPNTS in the second step for the RECEIVE FROMNTS. Have you tried it? On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 17:30:52 +, Smith, Sean M wrote: >Right, but then you have to point to the exact file in t

Re: SMPE Internet Service Retrieval: TRANSFERONLY

2019-03-04 Thread Michael Babcock
I use FTP to get the yearly file into a dataset then run an SMP RECEIVE to bring it in. On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 12:57 PM Tom Marchant < 000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I think that they have made it as easy as humanly possible. > > I'm pretty sure you just specify the same

Re: SMPE Internet Service Retrieval: TRANSFERONLY

2019-03-04 Thread Smith, Sean M
As I recall it required you to enter the ORDER number for that to work. So to run it as a second step would require that you scrape the report from the first step to get the order number so you can do the receive. Sean -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM

Re: SMPE Internet Service Retrieval: TRANSFERONLY

2019-03-04 Thread Smith, Sean M
We have moved exclusively to SMPE internet service retrieval so FTP is no longer an option. Sean -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael Babcock Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 11:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subj

Re: SMPE Internet Service Retrieval: TRANSFERONLY

2019-03-04 Thread Jousma, David
So, I've asked this of folks that have had the same request prior to you. Why not just run the SMPE Receive order for all available maintenance, once for each global zone you have? You get the current enhanced holddata, and you get all available maintenance. That way, when Receive order is

Re: SMPE Internet Service Retrieval: TRANSFERONLY

2019-03-04 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
That's exactly what we do - One run daily per Global CSI and I have all the most current Holddata AND Issued PTF's for the CSI. Jerry Whitteridge Delivery Manager / Mainframe Architect GTS - Safeway Account 602 527 4871 Mobile jerry.whitteri...@ibm.com IBM Services IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Disk space allocation question [EXTERNAL]

2019-03-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
Check the Dataclass. Does it have SPACE CONSTRAINT specified? We have b37s on occasions, as the process reduces space to the point where the data set cannot allocate sufficient storage https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.idas200/handle05.htm#handle05 I

Re: SMPE Internet Service Retrieval: TRANSFERONLY

2019-03-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 19:03:59 +, Smith, Sean M wrote: >As I recall it required you to enter the ORDER number for that to work. So to >run it as a second step would require that you scrape the report from the >first step to get the order number so you can do the receive. > Have you tried the

jcl remove leading zeros and spaces

2019-03-04 Thread Ron Thomas
Hi . We have a below PIPE delimited file , let me know how to remove the leading zeros and spaces zeros from this file ? 102016|0031859949|00|1613QTTR|1| 1995-11-13|01|8.|C|75| 019.| Thanks in Advance Regards Ron T --

Re: SMPE Internet Service Retrieval: TRANSFERONLY

2019-03-04 Thread Smith, Sean M
We are receiving the HOLDDATA into 22 zones and it takes forever and is prone to time outs during the order process. We are using it to run EXCEPTION SYSMOD reports and track the PEs Sean -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Beha

Re: Storage Question

2019-03-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
Acquire the storage first, *then* define the name/token pair. There is no way to prevent a privileged task from overwriting your storage. You're not using key 8-F, are you? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Dis

Re: SMPE Internet Service Retrieval: TRANSFERONLY

2019-03-04 Thread Smith, Sean M
"Have you tried the TRANSFERONLY once, followed by RECEIVE FROMNTS for each CSI?" My job is automated and as such I would need to capture the execution of the first step to get the order number to dynamically create the second step with the RECEIVE FROMNTS ORDER(xx) Hence my question about

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

2019-03-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
Well, I certainly started with dead trees, and I occasionally have cause to use them, but generally I am more production with a machine readable version (I want Bookie back!) -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe D

Re: jcl remove leading zeros and spaces

2019-03-04 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Ron, Quite simple. Convert the numeric data to M10 or use an edit mask to replace the leading zeros with spaces. And then use the function SQZ to remove the blanks in between. The output will be something like this 102016|31859949|0|1613QTTR|1|1995-11-13|1|8.|C|75|19.| Thanks, Kolusu

Re: jcl remove leading zeros and spaces

2019-03-04 Thread Ron Thomas
Hi Kolusu, Can you show me how to do the same ? Regards Ron T -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: jcl remove leading zeros and spaces

2019-03-04 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Ron, I already told you how to code and solve your problem. You did not even provide the LRECL and RECFM of the input file. Either way here is a basic outline //SYSINDD * OPTION COPY INREC OVERLAY=(001:001,010,UFF,M10,LENGTH=10, .. 085:085,014,UFF,E

Re: jcl remove leading zeros and spaces

2019-03-04 Thread Ron Thomas
My apologies on not putting the full details . Thanks a lot Kolusu . will try and see how it works. Regards Ron T -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with th

Re: SMPE Internet Service Retrieval: TRANSFERONLY

2019-03-04 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
If you're just interested in HOLDDATA, try what I do for multiple releases/products that I maintain concurrently. 1. Run a step to pull all available HOLDDATA and store into a single flat file or PDS(E) member. You only hit the web once. 2. Follow this with as many steps as necessary t

Re: How many asterisks to change a lightbulb?

2019-03-04 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Thanks for explanations. Just remember that for best results, the lightbulb has to want to change. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original

Re: How many asterisks to change a lightbulb?

2019-03-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
I don't know about the light bulb, which is pretty set in its ways, but the asterisk will want to change as long as it gets the right SETROPTS. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Je

Re: How many asterisks to change a lightbulb?

2019-03-04 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 16:53:24 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >On two different RACF plexes, we have these two profiles in the SDSF class: > >ISFCMD.ODSP.* (G) >ISFCMD.ODSP.** (G) > >I'm confounded to explain the difference between one or two asterisks. Help? The two differences: (1) ISFCMD.ODSP.*

Re: Multi-Site Parallel Sysplex

2019-03-04 Thread Laurence Chiu
I think Dave will provide better information but I'm researching the same thing myself and found this document useful. http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpieces/abstracts/sg248241.html?Open&pdfbookmark On Sat, Mar 2, 2019, 9:12 AM Mark Regan wrote: > Cross posting to both IBM-MAIN and IBMTCP-L >

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

2019-03-04 Thread Martin Packer
As you mentioned dead trees, my first large-sale publication (which I turned into a Redbook in 1992 and updated in 1997) was called DEADTREE SCRIPT/LIST3820 for quite a few years. :-) (I’m still typecast as “Batch Performance” in the eyes of some people.) :-) Cheers, Martin Sent from my iPad >

Re: How many asterisks to change a lightbulb?

2019-03-04 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Walt Farrell wrote: >>On two different RACF plexes, we have these two profiles in the SDSF class: >>ISFCMD.ODSP.* (G) >>ISFCMD.ODSP.** (G) >>I'm confounded to explain the difference between one or two asterisks. Help? >The two differences: >(1) ISFCMD.ODSP.** will protect ISFCMD.ODSP, if that reso