Re: CPU time and zIIP

2019-03-01 Thread Peter Relson
I'm obviously still not understanding what you think is amiss. for me I'd like to see SDSF's CPUtime to include all time, GCPU+IIP We have already said that it does. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: CPU time and zIIP

2019-03-01 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Peter Relson" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 7:15:51 AM Subject: Re: CPU time and zIIP I'm obviously still not understanding what you think is amiss. adding up the Gcpu time and Ziip time, to show all CP TIME bu

Re: z/OS V2R5 Will be the Last Release to Include JES3

2019-03-01 Thread Allan Staller
JES2 and JES3 can coexist. I am sure there are some arcane rules (as indicated below). -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 5:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS V2R5 Will be the Last Release

TSO TEST clarifications

2019-03-01 Thread Joseph Reichman
I am looking for some clarifications on the following documentation from the TSO TEST AT subcommand . any instructions that save the current PSW address except BAL, BALR, BAS, BASR, BSM, or BASSM. A single pass breakpoint is removed automatically during execution of the GO subcommand. After r

Interesting? CEA TSO/E Services

2019-03-01 Thread John McKown
I find it very interesting that these services are AMODE(64) only and designed strictly around the C language. And the mention of LIBPATH implies UNIX. I guess because part of the interface to the TSO address space which is spawned is via UNIX message queues. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledge

Re: How do I get a lower-case value into a "long" symbol?

2019-03-01 Thread Charles Mills
Assembler, allegedly the model for JCL, gets both of those right. (From memory) &FOO SETC 'Don''t' XDC C'&FOO' Gives you a constant of "Don't" (and no syntax error). C on the other hand does not substitute for symbols -- C calls them macros -- inside a character constant. #define FOO Do

$HASP250 JOB Purged

2019-03-01 Thread McCabe, Ron
Hello List, Is there a way to override the system so I do not lose output from a job? When I run a job after it ends it immediately comes up with "$HASP250 JOB Purged - (Job Key was D5C1B47F) so I do not get any output in SDSF which I need to send to Software AG support. Thanks, Ron McCabe Mu

Re: z/OS V2R5 Will be the Last Release to Include JES3

2019-03-01 Thread Tony Harminc
I was talking of JES2 and JES3 on the same z/OS image; not merely within the same Sysplex. Tony H. On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 09:40, Allan Staller wrote: > > JES2 and JES3 can coexist. I am sure there are some arcane rules (as > indicated below). > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe

Re: $HASP250 JOB Purged

2019-03-01 Thread Rugen, Len
Is the msgclass / sysout class one setup for purge? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McCabe, Ron Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 10:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: $HASP250 JOB Purged Hello List, Is there a way to override the system so I do

Re: z/OS V2R5 Will be the Last Release to Include JES3

2019-03-01 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 2/28/2019 11:34 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote: September 30, 2021: General Availability September 30, 2026: End of Service (Extended Service available for an additional charge) September 30, 2028: End of Extended Service When this was discussed at SHARE St. Louis after Mike Perera's unfortunate

Re: $HASP250 JOB Purged

2019-03-01 Thread McCabe, Ron
No it is not. Thanks, Ron McCabe Manager of Mainframe/Midrange Systems Mutual of Enumclaw -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rugen, Len Sent: Friday, March 01, 2019 9:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: $HASP250 JOB Purged Is the msgclass /

Re: $HASP250 JOB Purged

2019-03-01 Thread Steely.Mark
Is it being picked up by a product like SAR ? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of McCabe, Ron Sent: Friday, March 01, 2019 11:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: $HASP250 JOB Purged No it is not. Thanks, Ron M

Re: How do I get a lower-case value into a "long" symbol?

2019-03-01 Thread retired mainframer
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Charles Mills > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2019 8:30 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: How do I get a lower-case value into a "long" symbol? > > Assembler, allegedly the model for JCL, gets both of those

Re: How do I get a lower-case value into a "long" symbol?

2019-03-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
I remember when IBM enhanced CLIST in MVS (OS/VS2 R3.6?), greatly increasing the number of consecutive apostrophe required. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Charles Mills Sent: T

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

2019-03-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
I can see making copies for laptops off of the Internet, but dead tree? I wish I didn't believe you. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Andrew Rowley Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2

Re: z/OS V2R5 Will be the Last Release to Include JES3

2019-03-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
Why I hate ASCII: 1. It's 7 bits 2. It had code points with dual glyphs early on 3. When you look at 8-bit supersets of ASCII, there are more code pages than there are for EBCDIC Unicode? IETF has settled on UTF-8 as the normative transform. That is, IMHO, a better choice than the one m$

Re: $HASP250 JOB Purged

2019-03-01 Thread Allan Staller
Check your JESPARMS for the MSGCLASS and SYSOUT class(es). The OUTDEF or the related OUTCLASS(x) should contain an OUTDISP=(x,x) parameter. You want WRITE or HOLD in the OUTDISP= instead of PURGE Check the fine manuals for details. HTH, -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: $HASP250 JOB Purged

2019-03-01 Thread McCabe, Ron
No, nothing like that. Thanks, Ron McCabe Manager of Mainframe/Midrange Systems Mutual of Enumclaw -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steely.Mark Sent: Friday, March 01, 2019 9:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: $HASP250 JOB Purged Is it b

Re: $HASP250 JOB Purged

2019-03-01 Thread Lester, Bob
Hi, Any chance you've got autocmds moving the output to a purge class? $ta,all will tell you. Thanks! BobL -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of McCabe, Ron Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 11:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LIST

Re: $HASP250 JOB Purged

2019-03-01 Thread McCabe, Ron
All the $TA,ALL command is showing me are 2 jobs that run on a schedule so I would say I do not have any autocmds moving the output. $TA,ALL $HASP604 ID 131 T= 11.30 I=0 L=INTERNAL $VS,'S R,J=SCRCOUNT' $HASP604 ID 127 T= 24.00 I=0 L=INTERNAL $VS,'S R,J=PSCHED' Thanks, Ron McCabe Manage

Re: $HASP250 JOB Purged

2019-03-01 Thread McCabe, Ron
The SYSOUT class I was using must have had an OUTDISP=(PURGE,PURGE) because I changed the class to one that I know does not get purged and now my job output is not getting purged. Thanks, Ron McCabe Mutual of Enumclaw -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

2019-03-01 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2019-02-28 17:53, Andrew Rowley wrote: My main comment is: People still print manuals and work from printed copies. Not many, I hope. It's 2019. > Even one tiny blue underline on a page might make it 5 times the cost > to print that page. The ability to print in grayscale is pretty unive

Re: z/OS V2R5 Will be the Last Release to Include JES3

2019-03-01 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I mentioned previously a bank merger that involved JES3 and JES2. We also experimented with running both as primary and secondary. I remember one problem that at the time IBM would not take an APAR for: one them would terminate without freeing all acquired virtual storage on the grounds that the

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

2019-03-01 Thread Susan Shumway
Thank you all for the feedback and suggestions! I've collected it all and will work with the team to sort out items that aren't already on our radar and add them to our list of potential improvements. I can tell right now that some items are within our control and some unfortunately aren't, but

Multi-Site Parallel Sysplex

2019-03-01 Thread Mark Regan
Cross posting to both IBM-MAIN and IBMTCP-L I'm helping a coworker (she supports IBM Comm Server) whose is seeking information about companies or information that could be shared to assist with solution building to provide a Multi-Site Parallel Sysplex implementation in our infrastructure, utiliz

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

2019-03-01 Thread Wendell Lovewell
Hi Tom. You can change the way Chrome handles PDFs via chrome://settings/content/pdfDocuments?search=pdf index.html will get you to the file you want, but since you're going through a web browser, clicking the link, at least in Chrome, will cause the file to be copied to your download folder

Re: $HASP250 JOB Purged

2019-03-01 Thread Rugen, Len
That's what I meant :-) It's been 10 years since I ran JES2, just keeping sharp here on IBM-MAIN :-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INF

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

2019-03-01 Thread Tom Brennan
Thanks! I'll use that Chrome setting for now on. It means an extra click once a pdf is downloaded, but I'm used to that for word/excel etc. And then I get the benefit of the "real" pdf search and other features. But for the local-disk IBM pdf's: the pretend download and multiple copies (lik

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

2019-03-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 14:50:27 -0500, Susan Shumway wrote: >Thank you all for the feedback and suggestions! I've collected it all >and will work with the team to sort out items that aren't already on our >radar and add them to our list of potential improvements. I can tell >right now that some items

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

2019-03-01 Thread Steve Smith
I think the new layout, formatting, style, etc. look great. None of the grumblings about margin width and use of color are a problem for me, and I'd bet most. I couldn't care less about cross-document links. As someone else pointed out On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 14:50:27 -0500, Susan Shumway wrote: > >

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

2019-03-01 Thread Steve Smith
g... gmail You really ought to organize the manuals into directories, according to the layout on the index.html. And name the files according to the index.html. Why must you stop short of making this really usable? Cross-manual links have never worked for me, because renaming and organizing

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

2019-03-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 16:55:33 -0500, Steve Smith wrote: >I think the new layout, formatting, style, etc. look great. None of the >grumblings about margin width and use of color are a problem for me, and >I'd bet most. > Maybe handheld users? (An unpleasant way to read a manual.) >I couldn't care

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

2019-03-01 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 2/03/2019 4:55 am, Seymour J Metz wrote: I can see making copies for laptops off of the Internet, but dead tree? I wish I didn't believe you. You can tell the people who learned from printed manuals from those who use only softcopy ones - the people who learned from softcopy ask "How do I

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

2019-03-01 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 2/03/2019 5:59 am, Gord Tomlin wrote: On 2019-02-28 17:53, Andrew Rowley wrote: > Even one tiny blue underline on a page might make it 5 times the cost > to print that page. The ability to print in grayscale is pretty universal these days. Yes, but it's a checkbox that is easy to miss or

Re: How do I get a lower-case value into a "long" symbol?

2019-03-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 08:30:22 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >Assembler, allegedly the model for JCL, gets both of those right. > >(From memory) > >&FOO SETC 'Don''t' >XDC C'&FOO' > >Gives you a constant of "Don't" (and no syntax error). > I don't believe that works; I think you need the DOUBLE

Re: CA- View SAR Issue while Archiving

2019-03-01 Thread Brian Westerman
It appears that either you don't have the support in your tape system to support CA-View controlling his own tapes, OR, you have scratched those tapes (which is normally caused by the lack of CA-View controlling it's own tapes. Also it could just be that you have delayed too long in running SARP

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

2019-03-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 21:00:57 -0600, Susan Shumway wrote: > >I want to make you aware that every PDF in the z/OS V2.3 library was just >refreshed to update the visual style and link coding. Because of the link >coding changes, clicking on a link in an old-style PDF to a new style PDF will >not wo

Fetching a list of PTFS Belonging to a FMID

2019-03-01 Thread Jake Anderson
Hi Apart from LIST FORFMID(FMIDNAME) Are there any utility (CBTTAPE) or rexx which can help me to get a list of PTF ? Regards Jake -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listser

Re: New look and linking for V2.3 product documentation PDFs

2019-03-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 17:01:27 -0500, Steve Smith wrote: > >You really ought to organize the manuals into directories, according to the >layout on the index.html. And name the files according to the index.html. >Why must you stop short of making this really usable? > >Cross-manual links have never wo