Re: How can I get reports in the Output Queue in SDSF to print

2019-02-11 Thread Vince Getgood
Ron, You have an established session from JES's Netserv to z/VM - EZZ2587I JES2S001 7D6F 10.100.5.71..175 10.100.5.73..3603 Establsh (What's at port 3603 on z/VM btw?) Your start link looks successful, both on z/VM & z/OS - that seems to suggest that the network is ok. The QUE

Re: XMIT Manager and CP1047 (or rather CP1046.9921875)

2019-02-11 Thread Robert Prins
On 2019-02-10 20:16, Seymour J Metz wrote: Every release that I have ever used has had issues with translation, ever since the original ASCII support for tape. Do you mean UTF-8 or UTF-EBCDIC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-EBCDIC)? UTF-8, I didn't even know there was something like UTF-EB

Re: DEQ dynamically

2019-02-11 Thread John McKown
Do you mean using something like an operator command? If so, not that I know of. On Sun, Feb 10, 2019, 22:55 Jake Anderson Hi > > Is it possible to deallocate a dataset without recycling address space. > > The dataset is users one and for some reason I would like to know if we can > Dynamically r

Re: DEQ dynamically

2019-02-11 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
I am happy there is no command to deallocate a dataset behind the back of the application that enqueued it. Jikes. Kees. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of John McKown > Sent: 11 February, 2019 12:52 > To: IBM-MAIN

Re: DEQ dynamically

2019-02-11 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 6:14 AM Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM < kees.verno...@klm.com> wrote: > I am happy there is no command to deallocate a dataset behind the back of > the application that enqueued it. > Jikes. > > Kees. > > I can envision writing an APF authorized program which could schedul

Re: Wells Fargo? Well f*&%#d at the moment: Data center up in smoke, bank website, app down . The Register

2019-02-11 Thread Allan Staller
I have heard of a company in the Far East the periodically (every 6 mths., IIRC) flips from site A to site B (and back). Aus(?) to Phillipines ?) and back. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta) Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 7:08

Re: DEQ dynamically

2019-02-11 Thread Allan Staller
JCL, FREE=CLOSE on the relevant DD statement. Unfortunately require a recycle. Several system level programs do this routinely. HTH, -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jake Anderson Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 10:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.

Re: Wells Fargo? Well f*&%#d at the moment: Data center up in smoke, bank website, app down . The Register

2019-02-11 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
We run in 2 sites continuously. Mainly Prod in 1 site and Dev/Acc in the other site, a CF in both sites and Dasd mirrored between the sites. Our DRP consists of moving workload from 1 site's LPARs to the corresponding LPARs in the other site and adding capacity b.m.o. CBUs. No manipulation of LP

Re: Friday history query

2019-02-11 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Feb 9, 2019, at 5:47 AM, Joe Monk mailto:joemon...@gmail.com>> wrote: Any chance we could get some more info? Who was the signer? Is there any address/location info on the letter? The letter was signed “H. H. Rumph”. I googled him too, but didn’t find anything. The letter was written in Was

Re: Friday history query

2019-02-11 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Feb 9, 2019, at 12:06 AM, Mike Schwab mailto:mike.a.sch...@gmail.com>> wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_operating_systems Possible matches: 1955 General Motors Operating System for IBM 701. 1956 GM-NAA I/O for IBM 704. Thanks for the link, but I’m pretty sure this was on a S

Re: Wells Fargo? Well f*&%#d at the moment: Data center up in smoke, bank website, app down . The Register

2019-02-11 Thread Martin Packer
Kees, I would hope that - as part of adding the capacity - you adjust LPAR definitions, especially weights. Even if that is a "null" adjustment. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troubleshooter, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twi

Re: Friday history query

2019-02-11 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Feb 10, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Timothy Sipples mailto:sipp...@sg.ibm.com>> wrote: I'll guess the letter relates in some way to the IBM Data Processing Division's Government, Education and Medical (GEM) Region. The GEM Region was an IBM sales and marketing organization for about five years from 196

Re: Friday history query

2019-02-11 Thread Bill Ogden
In the old IBM, "GEM" was Government, Education, Medical. Bill Ogden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: General question about toleration maintenance

2019-02-11 Thread Tom Marchant
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 20:04:20 -0600, Joel C. Ewing wrote: >Normally "Toleration PTF" is a term used for a PTF for version A of a >product to keep it from going bonkers when it sees some construct >introduced by new feature in a  later version B of the same product.  That is one form of toleration P

Re: Wells Fargo? Well f*&%#d at the moment: Data center up in smoke, bank website, app down . The Register

2019-02-11 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
Yes sure: Weights, Defined Capacities and Group Capacities. And all done automated by SA, after one push on the button: change LPAR controls, activate CBU, move workloads. LPAR memory etc. are sufficient to take the combined load, but we have defined reserved memory just in case. Kees. >

Re: DEQ dynamically

2019-02-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
So it will depend on what Address space "owns" the dataset. If CICS, then there are vendor tools to close and open files to CICS. Please provide a little more detail on what "owns" the file. If the address space was not written to allow dynamic allocation/deallocation of a file, then you will n

Re: DEQ dynamically

2019-02-11 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Jake Anderson wrote: >Is it possible to deallocate a dataset without recycling address space. Why? What are you trying to solve? Or, rather, what are you trying to break? In short - no. You stop the application [1]. >The dataset is users one and for some reason I would like to know if we can

SYSSTATE (was Abend 052-512)

2019-02-11 Thread Peter Relson
(Everyone should do this) Help the poor macros out. Tell them via SYSSTATE OSREL and ARCHLVL what the macros are allowed to assume. Unless you like lousy code. The XM services were written when non-stacking PCs were the only thing available and the interface for non-stacking PC requires various

Re: DEQ dynamically

2019-02-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 06:43:14 -0600, John McKown wrote: > >One thing that I sometimes do is include a FREE=CLOSE on a DD if I am >certain that the application will only read if once, say at start up, for >configuration information. > How does that work if a subsequent job step contains a DD stateme

Re: DEQ dynamically

2019-02-11 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 10:13 AM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 06:43:14 -0600, John McKown wrote: > > > >One thing that I sometimes do is include a FREE=CLOSE on a DD if I am > >certain that the application will only read if once, say

Re: DEQ dynamically

2019-02-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
When the Initiator frees a dataset and no subsequent step has a DD for it, the Initiator does a DEQ. If there is a subsequent dynamic allocation, then the Initiator does a new ENQ; there's always a possibility that some other job will get there first. BPXWDYN is just a fron end; ultimately it g

Re: What is the bit that causes the bypassing of dataset ENQ

2019-02-11 Thread Charles Mills
I did not recall the exact operation of the bit flag. If I'd recalled that it was an SVC 99 flag rather than some sort of global flag I might well have found it myself. Why criticize people for asking a question? If they knew the answer they would not have to ask the question -- 'tis true. Cha

Re: DEQ dynamically

2019-02-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 16:40:49 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: > >BPXWDYN is just a fron end; ultimately it goes to the same DYNALLOC (SVC 99) >as any other allocation. > >GRS maintains a global reference count for any resource, not just SYSDSN. > Does that imply that if I have a DSN allocated by a JC

Re: DEQ dynamically

2019-02-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
An application can generally deallocate any dataset that it is not using. If you want to deallocate a dataset from some other address space, drop that keyboard and surrender. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe D

Re: Hmc for z as a virtual appliance?

2019-02-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
Another issue is whether an application that communicates with a remote HMC would have model dependencies and, if so, what models to test against. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of

Re: What is the bit that causes the bypassing of dataset ENQ

2019-02-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
That's only available if you're authorized. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Charles Mills Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 5:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What i

Re: DEQ dynamically

2019-02-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
Only if the job doesn't have a subsequent step with a DD for the same dataset. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent

Re: DEQ dynamically

2019-02-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 20:15:29 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Only if the job doesn't have a subsequent step with a DD for the same dataset. > Why? I never did a DYNALLOC ALLOCATE; only a FREE, and that should set the reference count to 0. Or does the reference count count each step mentioning the

Re: How can I get reports in the Output Queue in SDSF to print

2019-02-11 Thread McCabe, Ron
Vince, I do not know what is on port 3603 on z/VM and I don't know how to find out what is there. I got the Query NODE/LINE commands to work after you pointed out that they are RSCS commands...I kept trying to run them from TCPMAINT. When I start the LINK from z/VM and then very quickly start

Re: Wells Fargo? Well f*&%#d at the moment: Data center up in smoke, bank website, app down . The Register

2019-02-11 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I have nothing but admiration for a shop that can slosh workload back and forth between two data centers. There are those that can and those (like us) that cannot. How does one get from the first group into the second? . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team

Re: Wells Fargo? Well f*&%#d at the moment: Data center up in smoke, bank website, app down . The Register

2019-02-11 Thread Mike Schwab
Mirroring the DASD to the backup site. On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 4:50 PM Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > > I have nothing but admiration for a shop that can slosh workload back and > forth between two data centers. There are those that can and those (like us) > that cannot. How does one get from the fi

IBM Cloud Private 3.1.2 Adds Full "Manage From" Support

2019-02-11 Thread Timothy Sipples
Crossposted to IBM-MAIN and LINUX-390. This feature I'm describing has been available in beta form for a few months now, but I'd like to draw your attention to IBM Cloud Private Version 3.1.2 which was released a couple days ago. Version 3.1.2 includes official support for "manage from" Linux on I

Re: Tape Mount Management

2019-02-11 Thread Russell Witt
As Kees has already mentioned; if you want to add chargeback for tape - that is easy. I know that both the CA MICS product and the MXG product both have interfaces to CA 1 and CA TLMS to gather information on how much data has been stored on tape (and how long that data has resided on tape). And

Re: Wells Fargo? Well f*&%#d at the moment: Data center up in smoke, bank website, app down . The Register

2019-02-11 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Sorry Mike. That's what management seems to believe. It's what we've done for TWENTY years. It allows us to fail over to the 'DR site' at will. Including for-real failover where DR becomes the day-to-day home from then on. That's not the hard part. The hard part is that after failover, productio

Re: Hmc for z as a virtual appliance?

2019-02-11 Thread Timothy Sipples
Seymour Metz wrote: >Another issue is whether an application that communicates with a remote >HMC would have model dependencies and, if so, what models to test against. Yes, agreed, that's possible. There can also be slight differences after the HMC receives a code update. ---

Re: Wells Fargo? Well f*&%#d at the moment: Data center up in smoke, bank website, app down . The Register

2019-02-11 Thread Mike Schwab
As soon as you start production at the DR site, you need to start replication to your next site (production or third site). If you have a clean shutdown and the mirroring software supports it, you might be able to swap primary and secondary to avoid having to copy the volumes. On Mon, Feb 11, 2019

Re: DEQ dynamically

2019-02-11 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
AFAIK either the initiator does the ENQ (when there is a DD statement) OR dynamic allocation does the ENQ (when the code does a DYNALLOC). The same applies to the DEQ. To avoid deadlocks the initiator does all ENQs ahead before starting the job. DYNALLOC returns "not available" when another tas

Re: DEQ dynamically

2019-02-11 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
I wonder: can I deallocate a dataset with DYNALLOC, that has been allocated by the initiator because there is a DD statement? Kees. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Seymour J Metz > Sent: 11 February, 2019 21:15

Re: DEQ dynamically

2019-02-11 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
Where does the term 'reference count' come from? If the initiator deallocates a dataset, either because of step-end or because of FREE with CLOSE, it dequeues the dataset if no subsequent step needs the dataset anymore. Kees. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [

Re: Wells Fargo? Well f*&%#d at the moment: Data center up in smoke, bank website, app down . The Register

2019-02-11 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
Do you mean: from the first into the second or vica versa? It all is a matter of the right contracts, if your company can afford the costs of course. As to Mikes answer: you do mirror data constantly from the first to the second datacenter, don't you? Why would you move to the second center if

Re: Wells Fargo? Well f*&%#d at the moment: Data center up in smoke, bank website, app down . The Register

2019-02-11 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
With a proper GDPS implementation, you don't even need a clean shutdown. A Hyperswap can be done at any moment (we test it regularly). Kees > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Mike Schwab > Sent: 12 February, 2019