Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table

2020-07-21 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2020-07-21 09:35, Seymour J Metz wrote: I can see the point about creating an unnecessary subsystem, but what's complicated about looking up a subsystem? It's not complicated to look up a subsystem, but it could be an excessive path length. I've seen systems with over 200 subsystems defin

Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table

2020-07-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
Peter Relson [rel...@us.ibm.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 8:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table How is using a field for what it is intended for abuse? "Abuse" in this case is creating a subsystem when t

Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table

2020-07-21 Thread Peter Relson
How is using a field for what it is intended for abuse? "Abuse" in this case is creating a subsystem when there is no need to do so. In the past, subsystems were sometimes created solely to have access to the SSCTUSER field. And how is N/T easier? For the same reason as above -- there is

Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table

2020-07-20 Thread Seymour J Metz
: Monday, July 20, 2020 8:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table Have you never heard of Name/Token Services? It's much easier than abusing the SSI, and much more efficient. sas On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 8:29 AM Seymour J

Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table

2020-07-20 Thread Steve Smith
Have you never heard of Name/Token Services? It's much easier than abusing the SSI, and much more efficient. sas On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 8:29 AM Seymour J Metz wrote: > If the server creates a system LX, how does the client locate it? Of those > ways, which is easiest? > > ---

Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table

2020-07-20 Thread Seymour J Metz
...@us.ibm.com] Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 7:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table If the AS2 has the capability of switching to supervisor state; why can't it (AS2) create its own Cross Memory environment allowing Ad

Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table

2020-07-20 Thread Peter Relson
If the AS2 has the capability of switching to supervisor state; why can't it (AS2) create its own Cross Memory environment allowing Address Space (AS1) the ability to issue a PC to AS2 and the PC Service Routine use AR Mode to transfer data from the Target Address Space (AS2) to the Accessing A

Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table

2020-07-19 Thread Peter Relson
Thanks to Charles M for getting this into a form without the HTML. First of all -- I am assuming PCRTN resides in the Private Area of the Accessing Address Space (AS1) and PCRTN is defined as a Non- Space Switching, Stacking PC , with a System LX. Is My understanding correct ? No it is not. A

Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table

2020-07-19 Thread esst...@juno.com
Seymour I am agreeing with you -- Original Message -- From: Seymour J Metz To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 13:47:32 + I didn't claim that "every Address Space tha

Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table

2020-07-19 Thread Seymour J Metz
ent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 9:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table Seymour and Joe . Thanks for participating in this dialogue. I'm still unclear on this procedure. . . Seymour I agree that AS2 should be a subsystem,

Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table

2020-07-19 Thread esst...@juno.com
gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Joe Monk [joemon...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 7:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table "Sorry for

Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table

2020-07-19 Thread Seymour J Metz
behalf of Joe Monk [joemon...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 7:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table "Sorry for the garbled message -.If the AS2 has the capability of switching to supervisor state; why can'

Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table

2020-07-19 Thread Joe Monk
From: Joe Monk > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority > Table > Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2020 20:27:39 -0500 > > This is explained on page 113: > > "The example also shows the difference between cross memory d

Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table

2020-07-19 Thread esst...@juno.com
-- Original Message -- From: Joe Monk To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2020 20:27:39 -0500 This is explained on page 113: "The example also shows the difference between cross memory

Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table

2020-07-18 Thread Joe Monk
This is explained on page 113: "The example also shows the difference between cross memory data movement with a move to primary (MVCP) and a data movement performed through ARs and the MVC instruction. PGM1 uses the SSAR instruction to establish AS2 as the secondary address space, then it uses MVC

Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table

2020-07-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
The HTML character entities make your message almost unreadable. Does your e-mail software have a way to turn them off? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of

Re: Using AN EAX value of PC Routineto index into the Authority Table

2020-07-18 Thread Charles Mills
I don't know if this was readable for others but I had to edit it to be able to read it. I thought I would share my editing. Different mail clients -- perhaps it was better for others as it was. Different strokes ... Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto: