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Thanks.
Again, one is never too old to learn, even at 98.5% of one's mainframe career.
Kees.
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The industry has long been afflicted by people slinging around words whose
meanings they don't know. "Hexadecimal value" is just the tip of the iceberg.
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the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)
Whatever..
But.
I think the word in the title should be 'hexadecimal' rather than
'hexadecimnal' 😉.
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I pretty mu
ave a good general idea of what it means. But granted it is not so
precise as, say, alphanumeric.
Charles
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On 2019-12-04 13:52, Tom Marchant wrote:
> The point of using a term like "any hexadecimal character" is to
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Not to mention that "character" is fuzzily defined. You might mean:
byte
character
glyph
grapheme
.all of which will vary per code page, encoding, etc
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Re:
I'm similarly perplexed by IBM's frequent usage, as in:
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecen
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On 2019-12-04 23:37, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
It was at the beginning of the text you trimmed:
Re:
I'm similarly perplexed by IBM's frequent usage, as in:
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieaa200/ENQ_Description.htm
... The name can contain any
t: Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)
On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 10:01:36 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:
>"Non-printable" (or sometimes non-alphanumeric/national) is the word
>people are looking for.
I disagree. "non-printable" is a term that h
See my answer to Gil about Venn diagrams.
Kees.
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On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 23:10:12 -0500, Gord Tomlin wrote:
>On 2019-12-04 22:13, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>> ISTR that many releases ago the document cited explicitly forbade
>> DBCS characters so those would not have been considered "valid
>> hexadecimal". I no longer see the restriction; I doubt that i
On 2019-12-04 22:13, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
ISTR that many releases ago the document cited explicitly forbade
DBCS characters so those would not have been considered "valid
hexadecimal". I no longer see the restriction; I doubt that it was
ever enforced.
What document is "the document"? I didn'
Re:
I'm similarly perplexed by IBM's frequent usage, as in:
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieaa200/ENQ_Description.htm
... The name can contain any valid hexadecimal character. ...
On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 14:09:29 -0500, Gord Tomlin wrote:
>On 201
Not to mention that "character" is fuzzily defined. You might mean:
byte
character
glyph
grapheme
.all of which will vary per code page, encoding, etc
.phsiii (who was trying not to jump in here, but can't stand it)
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it is not so
precise as, say, alphanumeric.
Charles
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Or, again, "any eight-bit value."
Charles
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On 2019-12-04 13:52, Tom Marchant wrote:
> The point of using a term like "any hexadecimal character" is to
> indicate that all 256 possible values in the byt
Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)
>From "any hexadecimal character" my first guess would be "any character in
the ranges 0 to 9 and A to F", with a further guess about whether it
accepts both upper and lower case.
No
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On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 10:01:36 -0800, Charles Mill
On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 13:52 Tom Marchant <
000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
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> The point of using a term like "any hexadecimal character" is to
> indicate that all 256 possible values in the byte are acceptable.
The problem with that is “any hexadecimal character “ limits
>From "any hexadecimal character" my first guess would be "any character in
the ranges 0 to 9 and A to F", with a further guess about whether it
accepts both upper and lower case.
Nothing else makes much sense to me :-)
Rupert
On Wed, 4 Dec 2019, 19:09 Gord Tomlin,
wrote:
> On 2019-12-04 13:5
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On Wed, 4 Dec
On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 at 13:52, Tom Marchant <
000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> The point of using a term like "any hexadecimal character" is to
> indicate that all 256 possible values in the byte are acceptable.
> It could just as well be "a byte with any hexadecimal value"
On 2019-12-04 13:52, Tom Marchant wrote:
The point of using a term like "any hexadecimal character" is to
indicate that all 256 possible values in the byte are acceptable.
Even that breaks down if you choose to let wide characters (e.g., UTF-16
or UTF-32) into the conversation.
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On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 10:01:36 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:
>"Non-printable" (or sometimes non-alphanumeric/national) is the
>word people are looking for.
I disagree. "non-printable" is a term that has little meaning.
Even if you mean "non-printable using a TN print train", for
example, that is o
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