Hm. I had thought that every device was required by the architecture to
accept a READ IPL CCW, but as I think about it, I'm not sure that's
particularly meaningful for a terminal (especially 3270, but
keyboard-printer, too)...
On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 8:24 AM Radoslaw Skorupka <
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W dniu 31.12.2024 o 18:59, Paul Gilmartin pisze:
[...]
I believe the s/360 could be IPLed from a card deck, which might
have been multi-punched on an 026.
[...]
Actually it is still possible for virtual machines under z/VM. And it is
not s/360, but current z machine.
Of course if you want re
W dniu 02.01.2025 o 18:04, Phil Smith III pisze:
This thread has not disappointed. Lots of good history.
Re Autocoder: My dad was hired by OGA (Other Government Agency, aka CIA) in the
50s, as he was working on his PhD in Slavic linguistics, to work on their
machine translation project. He wou
Assembler vs machine code.
I remember being at a meeting with some of the Pok hardware people, and was
told the people responsible for coding the microcode for the Load
instructions, sit right across the hall from the people who code the Store
instructions.
Quote*: Great fleas have little fleas* up
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This thread has not disappointed. Lots of good history.
Re Autocoder: My dad was hired by OGA (Other Government Agency, aka CIA) in the
50s, as he was working on his PhD in Slavic linguistics, to work on thei
This thread has not disappointed. Lots of good history.
Re Autocoder: My dad was hired by OGA (Other Government Agency, aka CIA) in the
50s, as he was working on his PhD in Slavic linguistics, to work on their
machine translation project. He would describe to a programmer what he wanted a
progr
ursday, January 2, 2025 9:55 AM
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Pre IBM/360 a number of different names were used for what we would now
call "Assemblers". On IBM 1400 series the name "Autocoder" w
Pre IBM/360 a number of different names were used for what we would now
call "Assemblers". On IBM 1400 series the name "Autocoder" was also
used. On the IBM 1620 it was called SPS (Symbolic Programming System.
On IBM 7000 series it was called the Macro Assembly Program or MAP.
JC Ew
I learned Assembler in 1975, that's what we called it at our shop in the UK.
I have a 1960's text book by staff of the Computer Usage Company. It covers
the IBM 360, on close inspection, the book refers to Assembly not Assembler.
On Wed, Jan 1, 2025 at 10:12 AM Clement Clarke wrote:
> I cut my
I cut my teeth on some English computers in the 1960's before the 360 was
invented. We programmed in PLAN on the ICL 1900 and in Intercode on the
English Electric LEOs. I am pretty sure we used to refer to them as
Assemblers.
Shell Oil in Melbourne had two LEO's. They were paper tape based machin
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>Mainframe people are more likely to realize the distinction between
>machine code and Assembler language because some of us have actually
>been forced at some point in our life to write at the machine code
>level, where you have to write in
Mainframe people are more likely to realize the distinction between
machine code and Assembler language because some of us have actually
been forced at some point in our life to write at the machine code
level, where you have to write in binary, octal, or hex. or decimal
numbers and manually as
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I had always thought that assembler was the language as well as the program
that translated the assembler code into machine language, and the process of
doing the translation was the assembly. But. I just dug out a book f
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Oops, I sent too soon: that Wikipedia page also distinguishes "asse
Yep, the coding in the book is full of PEEK and POKE!
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Tandy TRS-80 Model 1 basic had
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:43:36 -0500, Phil Smith III wrote:
>>
>So perhaps the two a-words aren't even really appropriate! Too late now, of
>course...
>
>What say ye? Does any of this conflict with your usage/thoughts?
> .
"If you know what it means, let's talk about it. If you don't know
what it
Tandy TRS-80 Model 1 basic had POKE commands where you gave an address
and a value to store there. One published use I remember was to
generate certain graphic characters to turn on and off a part of the
character cell since the difference displayed between the two values
in the byte was one of si
Oops, I sent too soon: that Wikipedia page also distinguishes "assemblY code"
from the "assemblER", which is the thing that processes the code to create
[what I'd call] machine code. That makes a wee bit more sense, though it's a
tiny distinction that I've never seen before. If so, then we write
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