Re: 32 bit

2024-11-06 Thread Charles Mills
Well, @Captain, I stand corrected. (That was me in error.) Charles On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 13:20:58 -0800, Tom Ross wrote: >>On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 14:59:20 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wr= >>ote: >> >>>It would be a disservice to customers to retire 24-bit support berore >>>all IBM programming interfaces s

Re: 32 bit

2024-11-06 Thread Tom Ross
>On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 14:59:20 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wr= >ote: > >>It would be a disservice to customers to retire 24-bit support berore >>all IBM programming interfaces support AMODE 31. > >Do *any* of the modern compilers (C, COBOL, PL/I) "support 24-bit addressin= >g"? What would that mean, exact

Re: 32 bit

2024-11-04 Thread Tony Harminc
t; Sent: Monday, November 4, 2024 1:01 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: 32 bit > > Caution: This email did not originate from George Mason’s mail system. Do > not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and > know the content is safe. > > > &qu

Re: 32 bit

2024-11-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Joe Monk <05971158733e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, November 4, 2024 1:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 32 bit Caution: This email did not originate from George Mason’s mail system. Do not

Re: 32 bit

2024-11-03 Thread Joe Monk
Sorry, I misspoke. The only OS that could use 32-bit addressing on a model 67 was TSS. http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/360/tss/C28-2008-0_TSSsysPgmr_Oct67.pdf Joe On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 1:04 AM Jay Maynard < 05997213d6c2-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Didn't CP/67 support 32-bit a

Re: 32 bit

2024-11-03 Thread Jay Maynard
Didn't CP/67 support 32-bit addresses as well? On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 12:03 AM Joe Monk < 05971158733e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > "I understand the model 67 supported 32-bit addresses." > > 1. It was an PRPQ > 2. the only OS support for 32-bits was in ACP/TPF > > Joe > > On Sun,

Re: 32 bit

2024-11-03 Thread Joe Monk
"I understand the model 67 supported 32-bit addresses." 1. It was an PRPQ 2. the only OS support for 32-bits was in ACP/TPF Joe On Sun, Nov 3, 2024 at 2:59 PM Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Fri, 1 Nov 2024 15:45:07 -0500, Linda Chui wrote: > > ...

Re: 32 bit

2024-11-03 Thread Linda Chui
On Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:33:14 +0100, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: >Hello all, > >I have a question only slightly related to the original topic, but maybe >someone can provide a short answer: > >we are planning to upgrade to z/OS 3.1 next year, and with the new OS, >we get a new C compiler, >which (AFAIK)

Re: 32 bit

2024-11-03 Thread Charles Mills
On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 14:59:20 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >It would be a disservice to customers to retire 24-bit support berore >all IBM programming interfaces support AMODE 31. Do *any* of the modern compilers (C, COBOL, PL/I) "support 24-bit addressing"? What would that mean, exactly? Their l

Re: 32 bit

2024-11-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 1 Nov 2024 15:45:07 -0500, Linda Chui wrote: > ... >The IBM Open XL C/C++ 2.1 for z/OS compiler describes most of the details in >the documentation at https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/open-xl-c-cpp-zos/2.1 , and >more specifically about the linkages at >https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/open-xl-c

Re: 32 bit

2024-11-02 Thread Thomas David Rivers
Tried to reply privately - but it bounced.. It's my understanding that the older IBM compiler continues to be supported for some time yet, which affords a little time. And - of course - there is the Dignus compiler - which continues to support IBM mode for older programs and isn't tied to parti

Re: 32 bit

2024-11-02 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Hello all, I have a question only slightly related to the original topic, but maybe someone can provide a short answer: we are planning to upgrade to z/OS 3.1 next year, and with the new OS, we get a new C compiler, which (AFAIK) is part of the OS and has the same version number (3.1). So:

Re: 32 bit

2024-11-02 Thread René Jansen
Hi Linda, thank you - and your colleague - very much for this answer. I think people who use 31-bit and 32-bit interchangeably are missing a bit - the one that I sometimes used to weed out impostors in job interviews. Also, Ed de Castro's "no mode bit!" (From The Soul of a New Machine - Tracy K

Re: 32 bit

2024-11-01 Thread Linda Chui
On Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:47:36 +0100, René Jansen wrote: >Reading through the release notes (the "what's new") of the LLVM-Clang based >C/C++ compiler for z/OS I see support for 32-bit programs and XPLINK32 >linkage. Now I have to admit that I not followed all news closely but I even >have a hard

Re: 32 bit

2024-11-01 Thread Joe Monk
נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > > > > > > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on > behalf of Mike Schwab <05962a42dc49-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > > Sent: Friday, November 1, 2024 1:15 PM >

Re: 32 bit

2024-11-01 Thread Kirk Wolf
riday, November 1, 2024 1:15 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: 32 bit > > Caution: This email did not originate from George Mason’s mail system. Do not > click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the > content is safe. > > >

Re: 32 bit

2024-11-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Mike Schwab <05962a42dc49-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Friday, November 1, 2024 1:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 32 bit Caution: This email did not originate from George Mason’s mail

Re: 32 bit

2024-11-01 Thread Mike Schwab
I don't know if this is the case here, but it is possible to write a program to run in addressing mode 64 but use 32 bit instructions so it works inside the 4GB address range. On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 11:46 AM Tony Harminc wrote: > > On Fri, 1 Nov 2024 at 08:59, René Jansen wrote: > > > Reading th

Re: 32 bit

2024-11-01 Thread Tony Harminc
On Fri, 1 Nov 2024 at 08:59, René Jansen wrote: > Reading through the release notes (the "what's new") of the LLVM-Clang > based C/C++ compiler for z/OS I see support for 32-bit programs and > XPLINK32 linkage. Now I have to admit that I not followed all news closely > but I even have a hard time