Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP

2024-09-05 Thread David Crayford
> On 5 Sep 2024, at 22:12, Radoslaw Skorupka > <0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > What is DPU? > It’s a programable NIC. They’ve been around for years in other systems https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/whats-a-dpu-data-processing-unit/ > > -- > Radoslaw Skorupka > Lodz

Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP

2024-09-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
alf of P H <04843e86df79-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 2:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP From what little information that is available, unlike the CP, IFP, ICF, IFL, zIIP and SAP processors the DPU is most prob

Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP

2024-09-05 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 05.09.2024 o 20:47, P H pisze: From what little information that is available, unlike the CP, IFP, ICF, IFL, zIIP and SAP processors the DPU is most probably an 'on-chip' function like AI, DFP, Compression, Crypto etc. I can confirm it. It is more or less like IFP. However IFP is just

Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP

2024-09-05 Thread P H
m: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 4:31:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP Data Processing Unit on Telum II. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח

Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP

2024-09-05 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Sep 4, 2024, at 8:26 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: I think people need to remember that zAAP and zIIP were not any kind of advance in technology, but rather a triumph of IBM marketing. IBM did a great job of positioning these two as so-called "specialty" engines, with the implication that they are s

Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP

2024-09-05 Thread Bfishing
5 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP > > What is a DPU - Good Q. Never heard of it. For completeness, 2 of the PUs > are also configured as IFPs (Integrated Firmware Processors). However, > these are for 'system' use only. > >

Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP

2024-09-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
; Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 11:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP What is a DPU - Good Q. Never heard of it. For completeness, 2 of the PUs are also configured as IFPs (Integrated Firmware Processors). However, these are for 'syste

Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP

2024-09-05 Thread Farley, Peter
Discussion List On Behalf Of Radoslaw Skorupka Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 10:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP What is DPU? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 05.09.2024 o 14:51, Bfishing pisze: > How cool is it that they, l

Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP

2024-09-05 Thread P H
w Skorupka <0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: 05 September 2024 15:12 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP What is DPU? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 05.09.2024 o 14:51, Bfishing pisze: > How cool is it that they, like so many othe

Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP

2024-09-05 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
What is DPU? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 05.09.2024 o 14:51, Bfishing pisze: How cool is it that they, like so many other hardware features, were proven virtually under z/VM first. I helped with some of the testing.. 20 years ago now. And I also like that IBM's CPU's can be con

Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP

2024-09-05 Thread Lennie Bradshaw
Hamstrung, maybe. But never kneecapped. Lennie -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rick Troth Sent: 05 September 2024 14:03 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP zAAP was pitched as (and used for) offloading Java from the

Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP

2024-09-05 Thread Rick Troth
zAAP was pitched as (and used for) offloading Java from the primary engines. Neat idea! It was several weeks, perhaps a few months, before I realized that the zAAP was *not* a Java processor. Since it's all about microcode, I figgered IBM had built a hardware JVM, a byte-code interpreter. Wow!

Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP

2024-09-05 Thread Bfishing
How cool is it that they, like so many other hardware features, were proven virtually under z/VM first. I helped with some of the testing.. 20 years ago now. And I also like that IBM's CPU's can be configured in so many different ways. GP, IFL, zIIP w/zAAP, SAP, CF, DPU... What other architecture

Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP

2024-09-05 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 05.09.2024 o 03:26, Tony Harminc pisze: On Sun, 1 Sept 2024 at 22:19, Timothy Sipples wrote: As previously reported back in 2004, the first customer production use of zAAP (the System z Application Assist Processor) went live on September 1, 2004. Which was impressively speedy because it

Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP

2024-09-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On Sun, 1 Sept 2024 at 22:19, Timothy Sipples wrote: > As previously reported back in 2004, the first customer production use of > zAAP (the System z Application Assist Processor) went live on September 1, > 2004. Which was impressively speedy because it occurred more than 3 weeks > before the ea

Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP

2024-09-04 Thread Mark Jacobs
--Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Behalf Of > Timothy Sipples > > Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2024 10:19 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP > > As previously reported bac

Re: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP

2024-09-04 Thread Phil Smith III
Sipples Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2024 10:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP As previously reported back in 2004, the first customer production use of zAAP (the System z Application Assist Processor) went live on September 1, 2004. Which was impressively speedy beca

Happy 20th Birthday to zAAP

2024-09-01 Thread Timothy Sipples
As previously reported back in 2004, the first customer production use of zAAP (the System z Application Assist Processor) went live on September 1, 2004. Which was impressively speedy because it occurred more than 3 weeks before the earliest release of z/OS to support zAAP (z/OS Version 1.6) be