Re: Editor (was: Code Page for dataset names)

2023-07-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
Monday, July 10, 2023 10:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Editor (was: Code Page for dataset names) On Mon, 10 Jul 2023 09:15:00 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: > >What I really want is X11 support in TSO and ISPF. > Does either TSO or ISPF.prohibit X11? I would imagine tha

Re: Editor (was: Code Page for dataset names)

2023-07-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Jul 2023 09:15:00 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: > >What I really want is X11 support in TSO and ISPF. > Does either TSO or ISPF.prohibit X11? I would imagine that an X11 client invoked by CALL, BPXBATCN, BPXWUNIX, or SYSCALL spawn would just work. Subject to port availability. A forwar

Re: Editor (was: Code Page for dataset names)

2023-07-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 8:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Editor (was: Code Page for dataset names) (Subject: changed again. Lotsa trimming for relevance.)

Re: Editor (was: Code Page for dataset names)

2023-07-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
(Subject: changed again. Lotsa trimming for relevance.) On Mon, 10 Jul 2023 09:15:00 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I believe that you're thinking of the WorkStation Agent, which, alas, IBM has >dropped. I found it extremely useful, despite the awful limitations of >cut-and-paste. > >What I re

Re: Editor (was: Code Page for dataset names)

2023-07-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
unday, July 9, 2023 5:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Editor (was: Code Page for dataset names) On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 21:50:31 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Legacy bidi is a can of worms. > It saved a bunch of coding in ISPF Edit/View. Low

Re: Editor (was: Code Page for dataset names)

2023-07-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 21:50:31 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Legacy bidi is a can of worms. > It saved a bunch of coding in ISPF Edit/View. Lowest Bidder effect. From: Paul Gilmartin Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 5:45 PM ... Otherwise, I understand that

Re: Editor (was: Code Page for dataset names)

2023-07-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
Legacy bidi is a can of worms. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 5:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Editor (was: Code Pa

Re: Editor (was: Code Page for dataset names)

2023-07-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 21:15:18 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >UTF-8 is an encoding of Unicode and the size of a character depends on its >code point. I'm not sure what you mean by a UTF-8 character. > I stand corrected. "A sequence of octets valid in UTF9." >UNIX is ASCII-based, and I'm not aware o

Re: Editor (was: Code Page for dataset names)

2023-07-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
ditor (was: Code Page for dataset names) On Linux, all applications seem to support UTF-8 by default. All editors I've used on Linux appear to support editing UTF-8 documents without issues. The Gnome desktop on Linux even includes built-in support for entering arbitrary unicode charact

Re: Editor (was: Code Page for dataset names)

2023-07-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
introducer, so it is only allowed in a tail. Does /u00c0 work on MacOS? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 11:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sub

Re: Editor (was: Code Page for dataset names)

2023-07-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 19:59:10 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I see a list of languages with one anomaly: Latin appears twice, once as >"Latin" and once as לתינית, the Hebrew name for Latin. I can't read the Greek >and Cyrillic, but as best I can tell they render properly. > Thanks. After tedious f

Re: Editor (was: Code Page for dataset names)

2023-07-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
ussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 11:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Editor (was: Code Page for dataset names) On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 09:29:06 -0500, Joel C. Ewing wrote: >... >As to the poss

Re: Editor (was: Code Page for dataset names)

2023-07-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 09:29:06 -0500, Joel C. Ewing wrote: >... >As to the possibility of migrating a tool like jedit to z/OS. Yeah, I've >had similar wishes as java is supposed to be portable -- but surely >that's still limited by what the Operating System supports. > I mentioned jedit because it

Re: Editor (was: Code Page for dataset names)

2023-07-09 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On Linux, all applications seem to support UTF-8 by default.  All editors I've used on Linux appear to support editing UTF-8 documents without issues.  The Gnome desktop on Linux even includes built-in support for entering arbitrary unicode characters that lack a keyboard map, using Ctrl+Alt+u

Editor (was: Code Page for dataset names)

2023-07-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 8 Jul 2023 10:17:03 -0500, Joel C. Ewing > wrote: >... >There are so many useful glyphs available in UTF-8 that aren't in any >current 3270 terminal CCSID and which can't be in any 3270 terminal >CCSID without throwing out some other characters.   it's a shame if ISPF >is still insepara