Re: CTC (FCTC) usage [EXTERNAL]

2019-05-31 Thread Feller, Paul
Munif, maybe my original comments didn't make through the world of email servers. I don't think I've ever seen one doc that list all the things that can use CTCs. At our shop the real users of CTCs devices are XCF and VTAM. Those are the only tasks that have CTC device addre

Re: CTC (FCTC) usage

2019-05-31 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
It's true that no one has answered the original basic question. I think that's largely because there is no single doc that lays out all application uses of (F)CTC any more than doc that lays out all application uses of DASD or tape. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edis

Re: CTC (FCTC) usage

2019-05-31 Thread Munif Sadek
Thanks a lot for so many replies. My basic question still remains the same..where all CTC(FCTC) can be used under zOS and all required configurations. Do agree HCD/IOCP is very well documented but not the applications, VTAM, IP configurations. regards Munif

Re: CTC (FCTC) usage

2019-05-30 Thread Tony Thigpen
nc wrote on 5/30/19 6:12 PM: On Wed, 29 May 2019 at 13:46, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: Thank you, that was my point about non-CTC links. When I started here in the 90s, BSC links were still in use. First for NJE to VM/XA because our implementation did not include VTAM, and for some JES2 connections b

Re: CTC (FCTC) usage

2019-05-30 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 3:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: CTC (FCTC) usage On Wed, 29 May 2019 at 13:46, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > Thank you, that was my point about non-CTC links. When I started here > in t

Re: CTC (FCTC) usage

2019-05-30 Thread Tony Harminc
On Wed, 29 May 2019 at 13:46, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > Thank you, that was my point about non-CTC links. When I started here in > the 90s, BSC links were still in use. First for NJE to VM/XA because our > implementation did not include VTAM, and for some JES2 connections becau

Re: CTC (FCTC) usage

2019-05-29 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Before we moved to parallel sysplex in the 90s, we had only a few real-hardware CTC devices with ragamuffin unit addresses assigned haphazardly over the years. With sysplex, we were advised by our top gun CE that shops with a greatly enlarged array of EMIF CTCs were losing control of their

Re: CTC (FCTC) usage

2019-05-29 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Thank you, that was my point about non-CTC links. When I started here in the 90s, BSC links were still in use. First for NJE to VM/XA because our implementation did not include VTAM, and for some JES2 connections because of a perception that BSC was faster than SNA. A little testing dispelled

Re: CTC (FCTC) usage

2019-05-29 Thread R.S.
NJE over BSC was obsolete 20 years ago. However IMHO it's easier to use NJE over TCPIP than over CTC/VTAM. NJE over TCPIP is also not new, probably 10+ years. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2019-05-29 o 03:30, Tony Thigpen pisze: I am talking about JES2 controlled CTCs fo

Re: CTC (FCTC) usage

2019-05-28 Thread Tony Thigpen
may allow multiple types of paths (one of which *may* be a CTC), but JES2 does not know or care about the path selected. Specifically, JES2 can no longer talk directly to a CTC. Tony Thigpen Jesse 1 Robinson wrote on 5/28/19 7:00 PM: I'm not sure what Tony T. means. We have only FICO

Re: CTC (FCTC) usage

2019-05-28 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I'm not sure what Tony T. means. We have only FICON CTC throughout the enterprise. All of our JES2 NJE connections use them. There was no configuration change when we moved from ESCON to FICON. Maybe BSC? We abandoned that protocol decades ago. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern Calif

Re: CTC (FCTC) usage

2019-05-28 Thread Tony Thigpen
FYI, JES2/NJE does not support FICON CTC connections. They only support ESCON/BASIC CTC connections, which you don't have on a z14. Tony Thigpen Munif Sadek wrote on 5/28/19 10:40 AM: we are getting new z14 and time to revisit our CTC configuration. Is there a complete documentation on

Re: CTC (FCTC) usage [EXTERNAL]

2019-05-28 Thread Feller, Paul
Munif, there is some doc related to how to setup a CTC environment. If you are looking on the IBM hardware website for the z14 you should find a manual on CTC configuration. At our shop the real users of CTCs is XCF and VTAM. Those are the only tasks that have CTC device addresses defined to

Re: CTC (FCTC) usage

2019-05-28 Thread Parwez Hamid
May 28, 2019 3:40:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: CTC (FCTC) usage we are getting new z14 and time to revisit our CTC configuration. Is there a complete documentation on FICON CTC implementation and its potential usage / configuration for various subsystems e.g. VTAM, TCP/IP, GRS, NJ

CTC (FCTC) usage

2019-05-28 Thread Munif Sadek
we are getting new z14 and time to revisit our CTC configuration. Is there a complete documentation on FICON CTC implementation and its potential usage / configuration for various subsystems e.g. VTAM, TCP/IP, GRS, NJE, XCF etc . we are single CPC SYSPLEX environment and just exploring where

Re: CTC question

2019-03-27 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CTC question Can you please post your solutions to this problem, so future searchers that are having problems with CTC can benefit from your experiences? thanks Dana On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 13:23:02 +, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: >Thanks >I solved the problem. >Some p

Re: CTC question

2019-03-27 Thread Dana Mitchell
Can you please post your solutions to this problem, so future searchers that are having problems with CTC can benefit from your experiences? thanks Dana On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 13:23:02 +, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: >Thanks >I solved the problem. >Some parameters were wrong, and I had t

Re: CTC question

2019-03-27 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Thanks I solved the problem. Some parameters were wrong, and I had to changes some things around. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ravi Gaur Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 8:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CTC question Gadi

Re: CTC question

2019-03-26 Thread Ravi Gaur
ntrol unit is 1501 however device links are 200 also to make a pair both partitions which are in the access list for the devices/ctc should be UP . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: CTC question

2019-03-23 Thread Rob Schramm
I would stop now and look at IBMs recommend unit addressing scheme. Trust me what you are doing is going to make it harder to keep track of things. And even harder on those that come after you. Rob Schramm On Thu, Mar 21, 2019, 7:44 AM Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: > HI, > I have a computer (Our DR com

CTC question

2019-03-21 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
HI, I have a computer (Our DR computer) with 8 partitions I would like to connect Partition 1 (CDVL) to Partition 3 (CMP1) and partition 2 (CDVLT) to partition 4 (CMP1T) using CTC's. I have 4 Channels for this Channel 20 should connect to channel 21 Channel 22 should connect to channel 23 The de

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CTC

2019-02-22 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Quick Q -- just learnt that there's a CTC path validation utility within CA MIM. Any such alternative available as a freebie, or is this something programmable in REXX? – Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Beha

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CTC

2019-02-21 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
al Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: 21 February 2019 23:58 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: CTC I can't help with the specific question posted, but on this list we often try to help with OP's driving problem. Whi

Re: CTC

2019-02-21 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I can't help with the specific question posted, but on this list we often try to help with OP's driving problem. Which in this case seems to be: how to manage a complex CTC configuration? We've managed a complex CTC config since the mid-90s without ever consulting diagrams. The

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CTC

2019-02-19 Thread Edgington, Jerry
Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 12:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CTC Hi Jerry, I’m no longer able to find the free version of HCM. Have used it a few years ago, inputting my IOCP and was able to view everything. When I tried to get it last year

Re: CTC

2019-02-18 Thread Timothy Sipples
z/OS Hardware Configuration Manager (HCM) is an optional, priced z/OS feature. Its entitlement identifier is S017297, and it can be ordered through Shop Z in most countries. As far as I know it's possible to license HCM for as little as one month in most countries, as long as you only use it within

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CTC

2019-02-18 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Finnell <000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Date: 02/18/2019 01:36 PM > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CTC > Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > ISTR it was a free standing product from New Era. Then IBM bought it > and made it an option

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CTC

2019-02-18 Thread Edward Finnell
ISTR it was a free standing product from New Era. Then IBM bought it and made it an optional feature of HCD. In a message dated 2/18/2019 2:12:52 PM Central Standard Time, mitchd...@gmail.com writes: As far as I remember, HCM has never been free,  it has always been an optional IBM product. --

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CTC

2019-02-18 Thread Dana Mitchell
On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 17:55:27 +, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote: > >I’m no longer able to find the freeeversion of HCM. Have used it a few years >ago, inputting my IOCP and was able to view everything. > >When I tried o get it last year, I learned that the msi installer is >available in a

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CTC

2019-02-18 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
, A simple drawing can do it. The more connections.. the more complicated the drawing. Personally, drawing it is always how i have really understood it YMMV Rob Schramm On Mon, Feb 18, 2019, 12:13 PM Jerry Whitteridge To be able to make sense of CTC definitions I use HCM downloaded to the PC

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CTC

2019-02-18 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
anything.. guess it’s just a client for the paid version of HCM. Where did the freebie go, I wonder... – Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure On 18-Feb-2019, at 22:42, Jerry Whitteridge wrote: To be able to make sense of CTC definitions I use HCM downloaded to the PC. Its the only graphical way to

Re: CTC

2019-02-18 Thread Rob Schramm
Depending on the number of lpars and cecs, A simple drawing can do it. The more connections.. the more complicated the drawing. Personally, drawing it is always how i have really understood it YMMV Rob Schramm On Mon, Feb 18, 2019, 12:13 PM Jerry Whitteridge To be able to make sense of CTC

Re: CTC

2019-02-18 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
To be able to make sense of CTC definitions I use HCM downloaded to the PC. Its the only graphical way to review the connections. I also use HCM to define new CTC connections. For all other HCD definitions I prefer using HCD and ISPF. Jerry Whitteridge Delivery Manager / Mainframe Architect GTS

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CTC

2019-02-18 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
I have.. there are just too many lines in the CTC report. Doesn’t make it easy to get the big picture. – Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure On 18-Feb-2019, at 20:29, Roger Lowe wrote: Do you have access to Hardware Configuration Manager (HCM)? If so, you could use that to display your CTC

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CTC

2019-02-18 Thread Roger Lowe
Do you have access to Hardware Configuration Manager (HCM)? If so, you could use that to display your CTC config ... Roger On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 14:25:15 +, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote: >Just me, to understand and map out the connections.. > >– Vignesh >Mainframe In

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CTC

2019-02-18 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Just me, to understand and map out the connections.. – Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of ITschak Mugzach Sent: 18 February 2019 14:02 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CTC For the active

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CTC

2019-02-18 Thread ITschak Mugzach
ch > Sent: 18 February 2019 13:09 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: CTC > > I don't have a specific rexx for the problem, but I can give some tips > form daily experience. I do parsing every day, many times a day, for our > IronSphere product. IOCP

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CTC

2019-02-18 Thread Dana Mitchell
On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 13:32:49 +, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote: > >And finally, what would be the best way to visualise these connections? > Console commands D XCF,PATHIN and D XCF,PATHOUTwill show which paths are actually connected to other systems, and which addresses are not curr

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CTC

2019-02-18 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
. And finally, what would be the best way to visualise these connections? – Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of ITschak Mugzach Sent: 18 February 2019 13:09 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: CTC I don't

Re: CTC

2019-02-18 Thread ITschak Mugzach
gt; I know this is a long shot but does anyone have any REXX that parses IOCP > and "makes sense" of the CTC definitions? > I'm losing my mind trying to learn what I'm seeing.. > > - Vignesh > Mainframe Infrastructure > > > MARKSANDSPENCER.COM > __

CTC

2019-02-18 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Hello All, I know this is a long shot but does anyone have any REXX that parses IOCP and "makes sense" of the CTC definitions? I'm losing my mind trying to learn what I'm seeing.. - Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure MARKSANDSPENCER.COM Unl

Re: CTC conventions

2018-10-18 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I agree with Radoslaw that an elaborate CTC naming convention might be overkill for many shops. OTOH when we introduced sysplex in the mid-90s, we went from a handful of single-purpose LPARs across four CECs to multisystem plexes. We started with no CTCs to speak of, but XCF wants CTCs as

Re: CTC conventions

2018-10-18 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
, but as noted above, adding one volume to production is actually a three-fold increase in addresses. The advantage of any CTC naming scheme over just assigning random addresses is that a CTC can be fully identified by address alone: CEC, LPAR, and usage such as XCF vs. VTAM. The stories we heard

Re: CTC conventions

2018-10-18 Thread R.S.
single CPC. The same for LPARs - do you really need more than 16 in CTC? Much more? How many bits? Of course it's also possible to define CTC with no reasonable convention at all. The only things which are really checked are CUADD number and UA for device. However all the devices

Re: CTC conventions

2018-10-17 Thread Ed Jaffe
reat for small configurations, but should be reworked for larger environments -- perhaps by combining 'w' and 'x' to a single nybble and expanding 'y' to two nybbles. CTC 4-DIGIT NAMING SCHEME: wxyz w - one nibble to distinguish gazinta from gazouta x - one nibble th

Re: CTC conventions

2018-10-17 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Jackson's idea of assigning even/odd numbers for gazinta and gazouta, or ranges like 0 - 7 and 8 - F. Eliminating 5xxx, for example, would free up 4096 addresses for DASD. OTOH we've never run out of CTC addresses or agonized over which address to use for which device on

Re: CTC conventions

2018-10-17 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 10/17/2018 4:23 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: Just to be clear, a CTC naming convention is not tied uniquely to ESCON or FICON architecture. We implemented a scheme in the mid-90s under ESCON well before the advent of FICON. It's still in effect. The scheme we adopted (at IBM's

Re: CTC conventions

2018-10-17 Thread Jackson, Rob
r had enough LPARs or independent CECs to worry about it further. First Tennessee Bank Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 7:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re

Re: CTC conventions

2018-10-17 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Just to be clear, a CTC naming convention is not tied uniquely to ESCON or FICON architecture. We implemented a scheme in the mid-90s under ESCON well before the advent of FICON. It's still in effect. The scheme we adopted (at IBM's suggestion) uses CEC, partition, direction (in or o

Re: CTC conventions

2018-10-17 Thread Allan Staller
Thanks Daniel. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Blake, Daniel J [CTR] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 1:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CTC conventions Not sure if this is it, https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url

Re: CTC conventions

2018-10-17 Thread Allan Staller
Thanks Rob, I found that book, but went right past the "ESCON CTC Device Numbering Scheme" on page 5. A virtual beer to you! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jackson, Rob Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 1:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.E

Re: CTC conventions

2018-10-17 Thread Blake, Daniel J [CTR]
1:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: CTC conventions Esteemed Listers, I am in the process of adding a new LPAR to my sysplex and need some documentation for CTC naming conventions. Many moons ago, there existed a document with a suggested naming convention such that device addresses could

Re: CTC conventions

2018-10-17 Thread Jackson, Rob
Goog this, Allan: "redbook paper ficon ctc implementation." Top of the list. First Tennessee Bank Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 1:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTS

CTC conventions

2018-10-17 Thread Allan Staller
Esteemed Listers, I am in the process of adding a new LPAR to my sysplex and need some documentation for CTC naming conventions. Many moons ago, there existed a document with a suggested naming convention such that device addresses could be associated with a particular LPAR and the direction

Re: FICON PTP CTC & GDPS

2018-02-08 Thread Vince Getgood
Thanks. It's Not my decision... I'll definitely be testing. We have two directors, and I'll be removing one at a time... I'd still like someone to confirm what I want to do is even possible... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signo

Re: FICON PTP CTC & GDPS

2018-02-07 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I can't imagine running without FICON directors--or ESCON directors before them--but your configuration may not require them if they're used *only* for CTC. Before even touching hardware, I suggest that you cook up an IODF with no directors and ACTIVATE it. If things fall apart, you c

Re: FICON PTP CTC & GDPS

2018-02-07 Thread Vince Getgood
Thanks. I'd like to turn that AFAIK to a definite yes! I'm now told all XCF traffic is on CF's. Thanks for the other info. They already use EE, and I've suggested that for cross-domain traffic, but they want to stay away from the corporate network, so I think PTP CTC m

Re: FICON PTP CTC & GDPS

2018-02-07 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
AFAIK you can use TPT CTCs. Usually SAN switches are used to connect datacenters, but basically they are also FICON connections. You can eliminate XCF CTC connections by using Signalling Paths through CFs. This applies to all applications/connections using XCF Signalling as a communication

FICON PTP CTC & GDPS

2018-02-07 Thread Vince Getgood
s, can we go to point to point (or peer to peer) CTC over dark fibre links? Every FICON diagram I've seen in the various IBM manuals all have a FICON switch or director in the mix, so it's not clear that ptp is possible, although I'm sure it must be. I know we can do VTAM CTC using

Re: Moving from NJE over ESCON CTC to IP

2017-11-01 Thread Gibney, Dave
EDU > Subject: Re: Moving from NJE over ESCON CTC to IP > > Dave, > > There must be a reason why are you using the hipersocket IP address and > not just the default TCPIP stack IP address and perhaps this is where your > problem lies. Could this just be a simple TCPIP routing i

Re: Moving from NJE over ESCON CTC to IP

2017-11-01 Thread Alan(GMAIL)Watthey
completely upon your network design and where packets might route during interface outages. Regards, Alan. -Original Message- From: Gibney, Dave [mailto:gib...@wsu.edu] Sent: 01 November 2017 10:51 pm Subject: Moving from NJE over ESCON CTC to IP I think I've done an equivalent set o

Re: Moving from NJE over ESCON CTC to IP

2017-11-01 Thread Cieri, Anthony
, Dave Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 4:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Moving from NJE over ESCON CTC to IP All ove the internal Hipersocket inside the CEC network. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On

Re: Moving from NJE over ESCON CTC to IP

2017-11-01 Thread Gibney, Dave
e: Moving from NJE over ESCON CTC to IP > > Is the new IP path traversing any Firewalls??? > > If so, Port 175 will need to be opened between the end points! > > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSE

Re: Moving from NJE over ESCON CTC to IP

2017-11-01 Thread Cieri, Anthony
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Moving from NJE over ESCON CTC to IP Using EJES, LINES -- DELENN Line Status --- Row 1 of Cmd Device Status Node Work-Selection Line-Limit Page-Limit JobName

Re: Moving from NJE over ESCON CTC to IP

2017-11-01 Thread Gibney, Dave
frame Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 1:38 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Moving from NJE over ESCON CTC to IP > > Us

Re: Moving from NJE over ESCON CTC to IP

2017-11-01 Thread Gibney, Dave
TCP > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Cieri, Anthony > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 1:15 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Moving from NJE over ESCON CTC to

Re: Moving from NJE over ESCON CTC to IP

2017-11-01 Thread Cieri, Anthony
17 3:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Moving from NJE over ESCON CTC to IP I think I've done an equivalent set of JESPARMS, but I get this $HASP568 NODE=AISDEVL - AUTOMATIC CONNECT (SOCKET=AISDEVL) IAZ0543I NETSRV4 TCP/IP connection with IP Addr: 192.168

Moving from NJE over ESCON CTC to IP

2017-11-01 Thread Gibney, Dave
I think I've done an equivalent set of JESPARMS, but I get this $HASP568 NODE=AISDEVL - AUTOMATIC CONNECT (SOCKET=AISDEVL) IAZ0543I NETSRV4 TCP/IP connection with IP Addr: 192.168.1.3 Port: 175 Initiated IAZ0543I NETSRV4 TCP/IP connection with IP Addr: 192.168.1.3 Po

Re: XCF PATHOUT CTC

2016-03-23 Thread R Hey
Hi, Q4- I've seen some sites use retry 10, others use 20. What is a good RETRY() number for 4 systems? What is a good RETRY() number for 8 systems? Q5- As I understand it, one sd use CLASSLEN(l), where l=nK-68. System will add 68 to the size so it will result in nK. For my client, D XCF,CD,CL

Re: XCF PATHOUT CTC

2016-03-22 Thread R Hey
Thanks very much Mark. Q1- for the archive: After RTM & talking to others: For local MSG, system chooses the class based on the size of MSG LOCALMSG MAXMSG(n) CLASS(c1) only adds more BUF to c1 for local MSG, it doesn't say "use c1 for local MSG" can have one LOCALMSG for each defined class

Re: XCF PATHOUT CTC

2016-03-21 Thread Mark A. Brooks
by Mark Brooks: > People spend way too much time fiddling with Transport Classes. > Put at least two paths in each class for each target system. Q21- Is this for CTC only, 1 PI 1 PO from/to each system, so each system can send/get MSG to/from other systems? or, for STR as well? Ans: An

XCF PATHOUT CTC

2016-03-10 Thread R Hey
Hi, Q1- Should one define/use LOCALMSG in COUPLE00 ? I've seen some sites do, some don't. Q2- From Share presentation by Mark Brooks: > People spend way too much time fiddling with Transport Classes. > Put at least two paths in each class for each target system. Q21-

Re: [IBMTCP-L] IP via CTC (MPCPTP) between CECs?

2015-01-22 Thread Alan Altmark
> From looking at the manuals it looks like I could set up CTC/MPCPTP connection > between the two CECs, if we have any spare FICON channels to use that is. I > need to check on that with our hardware guy. > > What I'm wanting to do is to provide an alternate way into the sand

Re: CTC CUADD

2014-12-10 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-12-10 o 06:53, ibmmain pisze: Hi all When FC CTC LCUs are defined, why CUADD is from 01 to FF? Could it be from 00 to FF like for DASD ? CUADD has to be equal MIF ID (LPAR number), which is 1-F. I don't remember how it is solved for XMP machines (multi-CSS), but defin

CTC CUADD

2014-12-09 Thread ibmmain
Hi all When FC CTC LCUs are defined, why CUADD is from 01 to FF? Could it be from 00 to FF like for DASD ? CNTLUNIT CUMUBER 4010,PATH=(80),UNITADD=(00,008),LINK=(08), CUADD=1,UNIT=FCTC In our shop,there are four base sysplexes in one physical box. There are three lpar

Re: Migrate CTC ESCON channels to CTC FICON channels

2014-12-04 Thread Neubert, Kevin
Doubtful regarding your high availability question. True, you are no longer bound to an ESCON pair of type CTC/CNC. FICON has superior features, but if I understand your configuration correctly, I am not sure how much you are gaining as your CTCs still appear to be just two channels. Are you

Re: Migrate CTC ESCON channels to CTC FICON channels

2014-12-03 Thread ibmmain
Dear We have a processor for SDM system. There are two base sysplexes in this box. There are two FICON channels defined for CTC in each sysplex. Before migrating CTC from ESCON to FICON,each sysplex used two ESCON. one ESCON was defined as SENDER,the other one was defined as receiver. In

Re: Migrate CTC ESCON channels to CTC FICON channels

2014-12-03 Thread Neubert, Kevin
migration accordingly. Maybe some commands like the following to get you started: D U,CTC,ALLOC,devnum,n D NET,LINES/D NET,ID=name Regards, Kevin -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of ibmmain Sent: Tuesday, December 02

Re: Migrate CTC ESCON channels to CTC FICON channels

2014-12-03 Thread Staller, Allan
Easy to do, however, there is maint required for z/OS 1.11(?) up to 1.13(?) to support FICON CTC. Check the PSP buckets. To migrate(after cabling): Stop one set of pathin/pathout (ESCON). Start the corresponding set of pathin/pathout (FICON). Repeat for the second set of escon/ficon pairings

Migrate CTC ESCON channels to CTC FICON channels

2014-12-02 Thread ibmmain
Hi all We are migrating CTC ESCON channels to CTC FICON channels. We want to use HCD Option 2.10 to build I/O configurations ,then we change some parameters to migrate CTC from ESCON to FICON. Could you share your any experience to do it ? Thanks a lot! Best Regards, Jason Cai

Re: Is there any other way to implement base sysplex excepting CTC

2014-11-26 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Cai Jin Song wrote: >This system is a base sysplex,so we need to define CTCs between LPARs. WAD >We don't like to define CTCs. Why? >Is there any other way to implement base sysplex excepting CTC. AFAIK, no. Groete / Greetings Elard

Re: Is there any other way to implement base sysplex excepting CTC

2014-11-26 Thread John McKown
o define CTCs. Is there any other way to implement base > sysplex excepting CTC. > ​No. You must have a CTC and/or Coupling Facility in order to have the systems communicate. Ref: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2f1b0/1.1 - Signaling paths between

Is there any other way to implement base sysplex excepting CTC

2014-11-26 Thread ibmmain
Hi all There are three LPARs in our SDM system in the same machine. We don't have any CF for this system This system is a base sysplex,so we need to define CTCs between LPARs. We don't like to define CTCs. Is there any other way to implement base sysplex excepting CTC. Th

Re: CTC connection based zos plex guest failed with IXC402D

2012-09-13 Thread Matthew Stitt
A simple approach to figuring out what's going on would be to 'spool' the guests' VM consoles so that all console activity is captured. That would certainly show whether or not the guest was entering some weird state. And also to monitor the main VM operator console for any relevant messages. -

Re: CTC connection based zos plex guest failed with IXC402D

2012-09-13 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
"Mark Brooks" wrote in message news:... > Hi, > > I would also like to warn you that having automation reply to the IXC402D > message without also ensuring that the subject system has been reset > creates a data integrity exposure. It appears to me that you have this > exposure. The IXC2

Re: CTC connection based zos plex guest failed with IXC402D

2012-09-13 Thread Mark Brooks
Hi, The IXC402D message indicates that the subject system (XT1K), as observed by the other system in your 2-plex, has neither updated its status in the sysplex couple data set nor sent any signals since the indicated time (last operative). In other words, the system appears to be dead. The

Re: CTC connection based zos plex guest failed with IXC402D

2012-09-12 Thread ??????
Hi,Lizette This is a zos guest under VM. Absolutely we use default value for OPNOTIFY,I am going to try change this parameter and see what happen. -- Original -- From: "Lizette Koehler"; Date: Wed, Sep 12, 2012 06:55 PM To: "IBM-MAIN";

Re: CTC connection based zos plex guest failed with IXC402D

2012-09-12 Thread ??????
Hi,Alan Actually, there are no workload on both lpar.And interest thing is ,the fail one always is XP1K. -- Original -- From: "Staller, Allan"; Date: Wed, Sep 12, 2012 09:10 PM To: "IBM-MAIN"; Subject: Re: CTC connection based zos pl

Re: CTC connection based zos plex guest failed with IXC402D

2012-09-12 Thread Staller, Allan
within z/OS itself (see IEAOPT00 parameter ERV) which has do due with low priority tasks holding resources needed by higher priority tasks. HTH, I established a base plex beyond VM.It consists of two zos guests connected with each other by ESCON CTC. But...one of them fails every half day...what&#

Re: CTC connection based zos plex guest failed with IXC402D

2012-09-12 Thread Lizette Koehler
If you do internet searches on IXC402d there are several entries that might explain the IXC402D >From the MVS Init and Tuning Guide for COUPLxx member you can find OPNOTIFY(seconds) Specifies the amount of elapsed time (in seconds) at which XCF on another system is to notify the operator (by

Re: CTC connection based zos plex guest failed with IXC402D

2012-09-12 Thread 张老亮
I cann't find any clue what cause IXC402D. tring to ask some nice guys from VM list. -- Original -- From: "Vernooij, CP - SPLXM"; Date: Wed, Sep 12, 2012 05:11 PM To: "IBM-MAIN"; Subject: Re: CTC connection based zos plex guest f

Re: CTC connection based zos plex guest failed with IXC402D

2012-09-12 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
StandAlone dump and look for the latest syslog messages in the dump. Kees. ""???"" wrote in message news:... > I setup up this enviroment for testing vm implemention for baseplex via CTC > connection . > All of dasd are copy from somewhere,i don't know why sa po

Re: CTC connection based zos plex guest failed with IXC402D

2012-09-12 Thread 张老亮
I setup up this enviroment for testing vm implemention for baseplex via CTC connection . All of dasd are copy from somewhere,i don't know why sa policy designed like this . Besides reply a down it didn't do anything else. -- Original -- From: &qu

Re: CTC connection based zos plex guest failed with IXC402D

2012-09-12 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
hat make > IXC420D happen? > > > > > -- Original -- > From: "Vernooij, CP - SPLXM"; > Date: Wed, Sep 12, 2012 04:27 PM > To: "IBM-MAIN"; > > Subject: Re: CTC connection based zos plex guest failed w

Re: CTC connection based zos plex guest failed with IXC402D

2012-09-12 Thread ??????
Yes,I have check IXC420D. In these two zos,SA will automatically reply IXC420D with down.but what make IXC420D happen? -- Original -- From: "Vernooij, CP - SPLXM"; Date: Wed, Sep 12, 2012 04:27 PM To: "IBM-MAIN"; Subject: Re: CTC conne

Re: CTC connection based zos plex guest failed with IXC402D

2012-09-12 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
""??à?áá"" wrote in message news:... > Hi lists, > > > I established a base plex beyond VM.It consists of two zos guests connected > with each other by ESCON CTC. > But...one of them fails every half day...what's a poor implemention! > Every

CTC connection based zos plex guest failed with IXC402D

2012-09-11 Thread ??????
Hi lists, I established a base plex beyond VM.It consists of two zos guests connected with each other by ESCON CTC. But...one of them fails every half day...what's a poor implemention! Every time it give a message like that when it died: IXC402D XT1K LAST OPERATIVE AT 22:23:06. REPLY

Re: CTC FICON DIRECTOR

2012-07-18 Thread Arye Shemer
s on the same CEC > > using FICON CTC ? > > It depends. > 1. You can use two FICON ports - as in ESCON CTC (note both ports are > defined as FC, there is no CNC-CTC pair). > 2. You can use *ONE* FICON port, connected to a switch > > > Please refer to documentation on

Re: CTC FICON DIRECTOR

2012-07-18 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-07-17 17:03, Arye Shemer pisze: > Hello Forumers, > > I try to clarify for myself the following issue: > > Do I need FICON Director in order to connect two LPARs on the same CEC > using FICON CTC ? It depends. 1. You can use two FICON ports - as in ESCON CTC (n

Re: CTC FICON DIRECTOR

2012-07-17 Thread Neubert, Kevin
Saves a channel, offers greater flexibility... Though probably not as much as an issue as switches and channels are not the expense they used to be. Take a look at FCTC Topology Options in FICON CTC Implementation (REDP-0158) or at least the following paragraph: A single FICON channel

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