Re: Assembler vs. assembly vs. machine code

2025-01-01 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I learned Assembler in 1975, that's what we called it at our shop in the UK. I have a 1960's text book by staff of the Computer Usage Company. It covers the IBM 360, on close inspection, the book refers to Assembly not Assembler. On Wed, Jan 1, 2025 at 10:12 AM Clement Clarke wrote: > I cut my

Re: What can this mean?

2024-11-19 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
*Doesn't IDMS require calls for each field?* *On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:04 PM Mike Schwab <05962a42dc49-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu <05962a42dc49-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>> wrote:* > > *Doesn't IDMS require calls for each field?* I don't know the product well enough. IDMS has F

Re: What can this mean?

2024-11-19 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Fads have about a three year lifespan. I attended a Unicenter TNG course in 1997. I believe was buried around Y2K. Baffled why SQL has lasted so long. Row Level Security anyone? On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:54 AM Allan Staller < 0632b4c7ca99-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Classificati

Re: Elon Musk and DOGE will be going after some US gov legacy systems

2024-11-19 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Here we go again. Been hearing this for at least 35 years now. Design documentation is more important than the computer platform or the programming language. A COBOL programmer can be trained in a few months to be capable. Higher education have followed fads for years around programming languages

Re: AUTOCMD

2024-10-30 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I use otto on z/os 2.3. On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 9:54 PM Dave Gibney < 06fb76de82cb-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > You can do many useful automation things with System Rexx and JES auto > commands. And, there's a few good message processing exits on that CBT tape > that you can use to

Re: Help Rescue an IBM System/38

2024-09-10 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I missed out on the System/38. I worked in the old IBM General Business Group when it replaced the 34 and 36 range. In those days, DP division (Mainframe) always won out if there was a customer looking for a suitable system. Thos were the days of the antitrust case and we were told that there may

Re: ODBC from MVS to a non-MVS (say Linux or Windows)

2024-08-25 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Broadcom supply drivers for access to Datacom/DB. ODBC is a supported protocol, it has been for 30 years! JDBC came later and is supported. It requires Datacom server which is similar to IBM DB2 Connect and DRDA. I don't think there is a generic talk to everything, you have to configure for each

Re: 3270 programming

2024-08-18 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
SPF when I joined IBM in 1978 was Structured Programming Facility. Internally we were starting to embrace Jackson Structured programming and it was clear to me having already been exposed to Jackson that SPF was no such thing. It was handy for formatting in a structured / indented manner. A progra

Re: Mainframe history - 12 inch floppies?

2024-07-22 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
modem interface and Tasword 2, Colossal Adventure, Manic Miner and Small business accounts. I guess I should hang on to an old analog TV too! On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 9:59 PM David Crayford < 0595a051454b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On 17 Jul 2024, at 05:09, Wayn

Re: World’s largest computer outage!

2024-07-21 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I lost an argument when I worked at a very large discount broker in San Francisco. We had a big upgrade going in with a complex back out process. I said we should install and immediately back it out to test the backout scenario. Senior people scoffed at the idea. In went the update and boom! It w

Re: World’s largest computer outage!

2024-07-19 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Paul wrote: *Are you suggesting using physical cash because software andhardware engineers are unable to create a reliable alternative?* Absolutely yes. There are myriad reasons, in my case I have a pension paid into a UK account. Domiciled in Australia it's the best way for me to access these f

Re: World’s largest computer outage!

2024-07-19 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Some kind of false economy to make the PC the entire tool of choice for certain routine tasks. In the 1980s we had proprietary banking terminals, private/leased line point to point communications and passbooks. No way our branch network would be unable to perform front counter transactions. We ha

Re: Inquiry on Powerful Sorting and Query Tools for Linux Platform

2024-07-16 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Don't really know the answer, however, DB2 with an order by must perform some kind of sort. Or any Linux relational database. The RDB dream didn't really eventuate, we're still sorting lots of data the old way. On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 8:34 AM Jason Cai wrote: > Hi all > > DFSORT has impressed

Re: Mainframe history - 12 inch floppies?

2024-07-16 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I still have my ZX-Spectrum. When the micro drives were available, I bought two and the serial interface. The drives reduced the program load time to five seconds. The capacity was around 100 Kbytes. That little machine helped me get a well paid job. I typed out my CV and printed it on a Brother e

Re: Mainframe history - 12 inch floppies?

2024-07-12 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
43xx series had an 8 inch floppy drive for IML. I had a drive taken out of a 4341 by a mate who was an IBM CE. It was a vain hope that I might be able to use it on a Zilog based machine. That was in 1980. I tend to hang on to historical artefacts. I have 8" floppies with ancient CP/M tools in my

Re: message IEA793AJUsr wonderinfJ

2024-07-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
D DUMP command will show the dump dataset name configuration. Once you have that go to ISPF 3.4 and list all the datasets; eg: SYS1.DUMP.DS Try and delete them. You may also have some phantom dump files catalogued. Add the VOLSER to the 3.4 display. If they aren't found, uncatalog the phant

Re: About Python and REXX

2024-07-04 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
hierarchical file system. - Create an HFS data set or other UNIX file. - Set up character-special files. - Set up directories for a root file system. - Set up users and groups for z/OS UNIX access. On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 6:55 PM Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > From ISPF Option 6 -

Re: About Python and REXX

2024-07-04 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
>From ISPF Option 6 - TSO commands: Enter the command OMVS Your RACF profile will need an OMVS segment and a UID. You can also poke around using the Interactive shell. It's a menu based shell into OMVS. ISHELL command... On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 5:58 PM Thomas Berg < 0619bfe39560-dmarc-requ..

Re: About Python and REXX

2024-07-03 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
In OMVS try the python command For version 3,1, it's python3. Or just have a look around the OMVS directories. On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 8:02 AM < 0619bfe39560-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > A question: > > * How do I check if Python is installed/availible in an existing z/OS? (I > c

Re: OS/VS2 Release 2: Happy 50th Anniversary!

2024-07-03 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I was almost there! I started in 1975 as an application programmer. We'd just gone from OS/MFT to OS/VS1 and an IBM SE came and talked about this thing called "virtual storage". As a trainee, I had absolutely no idea what this meant for me. I had spent weeks poring over the IBM Orientation books.

Re: What's at a comma?

2024-07-02 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Surprised it ever worked! I would have coded *CLI 0(R7),C','* CLI embeds the hex value in the assembled source. No doubt someone will chime in with whatabout codeset. On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 8:39 AM Mike Shaw wrote: > It's zeroes on our z/OS V2R5 system (display by zXDC): > > XDC ===

Re: As a long-time Rexx programmer (SDSF)

2024-06-16 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
RGEN X is great. Most of the examples are well thought out and work well. On Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 11:52 PM Don Leahy wrote: > I am a huge fan of RGEN. It’s like a context aware version of the ISPF > MODEL command. That is some excellent work. And so is the HELP facility > in general. > > On

Re: As a long-time Rexx programmer

2024-06-16 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I got into the habit of using Q = '7D'X in my REXX prologue. I would use Q as the Quote in expressions and avoid all the internal confusion of what is a quoted double quote. Nasty but worked for me... On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 1:10 PM Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu

Re: PL/I Options question

2024-06-12 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Charles, I've only ever specified ISASIZE as a PARM override. You could try PARM='/TEST()' You need the slash delimiter, you probably know that. On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 7:47 AM Charles Mills wrote: > This is one of those things where the surrounding details are what they > are, and would

Re: VTOCs vs. catalogs

2024-05-25 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I remember a lecturer at IBM in London 1975 when I was taking a PL/I course. He asked, "Why is VSAM like a cow in a meadow". Answer : "Because they are both outstanding in their field". Our company was still using ISAM and continued well past 1978. I first encountered VSAM at IBM when I went to

Re: Mainframe performance tool replacement

2024-05-07 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
EasySMF. Andrew Rowley may chip in here. On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 7:23 AM Bob Bridges < 0587168ababf-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I think I'm about to reveal my obsolescence: Where my clients didn't use > SAS, they mostly used DYL-280II or QuikJob. Or REXX, of course. > > --- > Bob

Re: ./ ADD - which utility?

2024-04-15 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I guess when the utility was developed JCL was way simpler and test cases were limited. After Gil raised the various gotchas, I wrote myself a PUTPDS program with a user defined delimiter. Eschewing 2 bytes means I can come up with a very random string such as !@#$%^&* ADD NAME=MEMBER. Not likely

Re: ./ ADD - which utility?

2024-04-14 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
VSE JCL. First time I had to use it...Well all the DLBLS before the EXEC. Actually more logical. The O/S? We could run a production CICS region on a 1 MIP machine. That's tight. (and a Meg of main). On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 11:29 AM Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > If there are embedded ./ IEB

Re: ./ ADD - which utility?

2024-04-14 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
If there are embedded ./ IEBUPDTE in the JCL, I write a .# ADD card as the header and then use my PUTPDS REXX code. The odds of a .# ADD appearing I guesstimate as nil. Yes, it's annoying but really, who cares? On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 10:37 AM Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dm

Re: ./ ADD - which utility?

2024-04-13 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I have some REXX code that extracts all members of a PDS and writes it to a sequential file. Each member extracted is prefixed with the ./ADD card with the original member name. Handy for moving a PDS to another system. IEBUPDTE was the utility of choice when all we had was a card punch and card re

Re: Loss of data for logstream

2024-04-01 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
splexes. > > Mark Jacobs > > Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. > > GPG Public Key - > https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com > > > On Monday, April 1st, 2024 at 11:33 PM, Wayne Bickerdike < > 059234

Re: Loss of data for logstream

2024-04-01 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
SMF log stream? On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 11:41 AM Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Rename the logstream, and then define a new one. > > Dave Jousma > > Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering > > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD

Re: Ideas for less-distruptive disruptions - Netmaster:Solve and CICS

2024-03-25 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
David Spiegel... I have my presentation PDF. Send me your email address and I'll forward it to you. My email: wayn...@gmail.com On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 12:06 AM David Spiegel < 0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Hi Tom, > I logged in with SHARE Userid/Password before askin

Re: Ideas for less-distruptive disruptions - Netmaster:Solve and CICS

2024-03-25 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
David, I'll see if I have my original presentation. I can send it off list. Regards, Wayne On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 12:06 AM David Spiegel < 0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Hi Tom, > I logged in with SHARE Userid/Password before asking the question. > > Regards, > David

Re: Ideas for less-distruptive disruptions - Netmaster:Solve and CICS

2024-03-24 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Tom Longfellow. I presented a session at Share in Phoenix in 2019 on the subject of CICS transactions written in REXX. https://www.share.org/Events/Past-Events/Proceedings/Proceeding-Details/cics-and-rexx-some-useful-tips-and-tricks The capability has been around for years. Just happens that nob

Re: [EXTERNAL] Question

2024-02-20 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I use Ashampoo Office. It costs around $20. It's like an old version of MS Office. does the job without being stupidly bloated. Ashampoo sell a lot of useful products for sound editing, video editing. I have a bunch of them. I also have Libre Office. Office 365 came bundled with my latest Dell l

Re: IBM Reopens Its Frozen Pension Plan, Saving the Company Millions

2024-02-13 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Looks like they are reverting to a Defined Benefit scheme. I never received anything from IBM after my employment with them in the 70's. The 401K contribution limits are too low to ensure a comfortable retirement. On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 5:38 AM zMan < 059081901144-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.e

Re: Racf Userid

2024-01-10 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
documented here: https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.3.0?topic=records-record-type-80-racf-processing-record On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 11:21 AM Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > SMF type 80 records. > > On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 8:38 AM Chalk, Shelia wrote: > >> Hello, >> >>

Re: Racf Userid

2024-01-10 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
SMF type 80 records. On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 8:38 AM Chalk, Shelia wrote: > Hello, > > I have a userid abc that was last access in racf on 1/7/24 at 5:06 a.m. > Is there a report or something that will tell me who (batch job, script, > etc..) is using this userid? > > Thanks > Shelia Chalk > Mai

Re: allowed characters in member name

2024-01-07 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
DCB was often used in referbacks, eg DCB=(*.STEP1.MASTER), I'm sure most modernspeak prefers LIKE. Blame the Beatles. Yanno what I mean like? On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 9:15 AM Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 21:50:07 +, Gibney, Dave w

Re: Style (was: LISTDSI - ...)

2024-01-07 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I often create a function to deal with quotes. Typically I'll use an UNQUOTE function and a REQUOTE function. My use of the letter Q was by way of an example. MyDSN = UNQUOTE(MyDSN) MyDSN = REQUOTE(MyDSN) Use of the STRIP function is recommended too. This is where embedded quotes can confuse: ST

Re: Style (was: LISTDSI - ...)

2024-01-06 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Way to miss the point. On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 2:58 AM Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 14:25:09 +1100, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > > >Quoted strings always gave me grief. I started to use Q='7D'X and > &

Re: LISTDSI - hardcoded dsn vs. read in from file

2024-01-05 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Quoted strings always gave me grief. I started to use Q='7D'X and concatenate my strings this way: Str = Q||DsNAme||Q. LISTDSI(Str) PROF NOPREFIX works but can leave you that setting when you don't want it on termination. On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 8:00 AM Willy Jensen wrote: > > . . > >Unquote: r

Re: CBS's "60 Minutes": Quantum Computing

2023-12-06 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
The future as we have it now is quite technologically different from when I started in IT. Prior to that, I worked in the nuclear physics industry and back in the 60's fusion was a few years off. We still haven't cracked it. By the late 80's we were debating how fast infrared and wireless bandwid

Re: Assembler programmer wanted

2023-12-03 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
When a bank runs an EFTPOS transaction, a fee is charged, all thanks to some code. When they run a mortgage amortization program, a debit occurs on a periodic basis. The whole system of direct debits generates a transfer of funds from a customer to the code executor... I could go on On Mon,

Re: Rexx to clone users in RACF

2023-11-16 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
*Doesn't the RACF ISPF interface have the ability to close a user?* No, Consul RACF which became z/Secure has that capability. As Radowslaw says, set up a template or use an ISPF file tailoring skeleton with a set of templates and generate from a panel. On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 1:55 PM Jon Perrym

Re: PC Interference from shredder Was: Kinda fun

2023-11-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
On the subject of RF interference. Years ago we came back from living in California to Australia. We had a 110V coffee espresso machine. It worked well and we ran it from a voltage changer plugged into the socket. Early rise time, my wife would go into the kitchen and make a coffee. I'm in the hab

Re: SORT Help with JFY and SQZ

2023-11-09 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Agree, however, it took me less than 2 minutes to add the code for FIELD card. I was responding to the original, however, here's the extra code, OUT2.I = 'RPT FIELD,TABLE,'||Dbname|| VERSION SAY REC.I SAY OUT.I SAY OUT2.I D "EXECIO * DISKW OFILE(STEM OUT. FINIS " "EXECIO * DISKW OFILE(S

Re: SORT Help with JFY and SQZ

2023-11-09 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I would probably use a 26 char ALPHA string and index into that to avoid the stem variable with the hard coded A to F. or a Hex to Char based on the suffix value Been a while since I saw Datacom/DB dictionary output :) On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 1:13 PM Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > I tried t

Re: SORT Help with JFY and SQZ

2023-11-09 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I tried this in REXX, more familiar for me than DFSORT. My code: Stor = '' ALPHA.1 = 'A' ALPHA.2 = 'B' ALPHA.3 = 'C' ALPHA.4 = 'D' ALPHA.5 = 'E' ALPHA.6 = 'F' "ALLOC F(IFILE) DA('BDB204.OUTLIST(FROM)') SHR REUSE " "ALLOC F(OFILE) DA('BDB204.OUTLIST(TO)') SHR REUSE " "EXECIO * DISKR IFILE

Re: Kinda fun

2023-11-08 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I never used a 3270 in my early career (1975-78). I joined IBM in 1978 and we still used punch cards built on an 029 card punch. Customers generally got the technology before IBM internal. In a team of 20 we had a handful of Series 1 emulating a 3270 and you had to book a 30 minute session to inpu

Re: PL/X

2023-10-01 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
So many acronyms. I've Been Married I've Been Moved It's Better Manual I Broke Microcode etc.. On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 4:17 AM David Spiegel < 0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Hi Peter, > I was generalizing the problem. Allowing access to PL/ wouyld also > solve the la

Re: Utility to Read from JES2 spool

2023-09-30 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
. Needed an extra IEBGENER step but solved the problem. Hats off to Rocket. On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 9:59 AM Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > For Dinosaurs: > > OUT Jobxxx PR(FRED) HOLD KEEP > > On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 9:03 PM Kirk Wolf wrote: > >> FWIW, Co:Z SFTP has full sup

Re: Utility to Read from JES2 spool

2023-09-30 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
For Dinosaurs: OUT Jobxxx PR(FRED) HOLD KEEP On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 9:03 PM Kirk Wolf wrote: > FWIW, Co:Z SFTP has full support for JES spool files, but there are also > Co:Z shell commands for using JES2/3. > > example: > > *> todsn //intrdr < *//BR14 JOB 'KIRK',MSGCLASS=X** > **// EXEC PGM=I

Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-17 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Just quoting a survey proves nothing. Plenty of Muslims became Muslims because they married a Muslim. So I guess you can divorce your ethnicity and marry another one. On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 7:29 AM Bob T Roller < 044ef325f6c3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Johnson is correct. > > T

Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-17 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Johnson doesn't understand the difference between ethnicity and religion. How surprising. On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 4:44 AM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Ok, you’re right, as your fragile ego needs. > > As I stated, and proved, I can tell most people’s colo

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive - Dumps - Early days

2023-09-07 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I used ROSCOE in a couple of sites. Once you got used to it, it was better than TSO EDIT with the same footprint. RPF was easier to master than ISPF/PDF and it had a lot of similarities with REXX. I regressed back to a DOS/VSE shop for a while. A 4331 with 1 MB of memory. We managed to run CICS w

Re: SDSF REXX Question

2023-09-06 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Lionel, Does the storage not dropped create a problem? Or is this just a thing you want cleaned up? On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 4:02 AM Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Wed, 6 Sep 2023 13:46:25 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote: > > > >This is not meant to be sni

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-06 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
How can Bombastic Bill have worked all those years and never worked in a RACF shop? VSE shops never had RACF, however, RACF has had the Lion's share for years. On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 5:32 AM Seymour J Metz wrote: > Yes, assemblers came first, but < > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laning_and_Zier

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-06 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
My favourite use of Assembler was an E15 sort exit. I developed it to enable access to CA-Datacom database tables. It was originally written for a VSE shop and it proved to be so useful (and fast), I maintained the code when I worked in MVS shops. It was enhanced over the years to be condensed down

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-05 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
ChatGPT could have written the requirement in PL/I, compiled and produced the Assembler listing. The Assembler generated would work, albeit incredibly wordy. It does appear that the PUT macro was confused usage of a PL/I PUT statement. No conversion attempted to get from full word to a displayabl

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Is SMP/E needed for installs?

2023-08-31 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
The wheel has turned full circle. When I worked at IBM UK in 1978 we had a JOBPROC statement. It was internal code developed by one of our systems programmers. It worked but sometimes broke. On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 4:58 AM Tom Brennan wrote: > Thanks, I forgot about that. But we may have known

Re: Availability of "Orphanware"?

2023-08-30 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Tim, I worked for ICI from 1969 to 1978. Do you know which division wrote WRS? We had quite a few divisions that had mainframes. Central Management Services held sway for quite some time. I was at Fibres division and we used to time share until we installed our first 370 in 1975. There are not ma

Re: Creating an SMP install tape

2023-08-23 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I used to package a software product I maintained. It was a simple template. We built the SMPE zones, defined the FMID and APPLY / ACCEPT. Load modules and macros were in PDS form. It wasn't "difficult". Clem can email me off list if I can help. On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 6:28 AM Phil Smith III wro

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Has anyone

2023-08-15 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I use both Libre Office and Ashampoo office. The Ashampoo products are like MS-Office used to be. Not overloaded with features I don't need and each component offers compatible file formats with MS-Office. Costs about $20. I have a number of other Ashampoo products for disk backup, video editing, a

Re: The ultimate (another one!) definition of mainframe

2023-08-14 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
lish>*) 1. (slang <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#slang>) Penis <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/penis>. quotations ▼synonym ▲Synonyms: *see* Thesaurus:penis <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Thesaurus:penis> On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 6:33 AM Wayne Bic

Re: The ultimate (another one!) definition of mainframe

2023-08-14 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
-vms-rest-story > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Monday, August 14, 2023, 7:17 PM, Wayne Bickerdike > wrote: > > Windows NT came from the VAX guys, I think. > > On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 6:15 AM Wayne Bickerdike > wrote: > > > >

Re: The ultimate (another one!) definition of mainframe

2023-08-14 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Windows NT came from the VAX guys, I think. On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 6:15 AM Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > > > *The facts. According to Bill Johnson.American computer programmer Timothy > Paterson, a developer for Seattle Computer Products, wrote the original > operating syste

Re: The ultimate (another one!) definition of mainframe

2023-08-14 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
*The facts. According to Bill Johnson.American computer programmer Timothy Paterson, a developer for Seattle Computer Products, wrote the original operating system for the Intel Corporation’s 8086 microprocessor in 1980, initially calling it QDOS (Quick and Dirty Operating System), which was soon r

Re: z/OS users

2023-08-14 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Bank tellers do log on when they start work. Most of these scenarios require a unique ID and if they hand over for breaks, they log off and a relief teller will log on with a different ID. There is generally a "supervisor" override. It used to be a physical key they inserted and the teller softwar

Re: The ultimate (another one!) definition of mainframe

2023-08-14 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
IBM never showed enough interest or vision in microcomputer futures. I quit IBM in 1979 to work with some former colleagues on microcomputer software development. My IBM manager would have walked me if I had been joining a competitor. This was the rule of the day. He said to me, "I don't ever see

Re: ISPF in batch

2023-08-10 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I've used an EDIT macro in 3.4. Not sure what the OP is trying to do. I have one REXX exec called ALLMEM which prompts for a macro name and it applies a global edit to each member of a selected PDS. I've used it in batch too as a poor man's FileAid or Filemanager. On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 7:05 AM

Re: Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems

2023-08-09 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I've driven on a few continents, Asia is basically watch out, there is no "right of way". Australia has terrible lane discipline, overtaking on the near side, people braking when they see a speed camera on a freeway, limited use of turn signals. USA has better roads than Australia, people drive f

Re: Separation of Duties RACF Security Admins/Systems Programmers - Sarbanes-Oxley

2023-08-05 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
scoe or whatever better...). > > > > > > So role based using group definitions that give one authority > > > until they don't need it (or can't justify it), is what I think > > > you mean and need. > > > > > > Steve Thompson > > &

Re: Separation of Duties RACF Security Admins/Systems Programmers - Sarbanes-Oxley

2023-08-04 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
To implement this would require systems that implement application security. The idea that a systems programmer of any type would be able to perpetrate fraud is a stretch. I had access to everything mainframe (RACF, CICS, z/OS) in a top secret installation. I wouldn't be able to place a purchase o

Re: Definition of mainframe? Was: Ars Technica

2023-07-30 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
COBOL MOVE was not intuitive. Should have been PROPOGATE or COPY, COPY was already taken I guess. On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 1:55 PM Grant Taylor < 023065957af1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On 7/30/23 7:58 PM, Andrew Rowley wrote: > > They do dynamicaly expand. It's not growing that's

Re: IMS/Transaction Manager

2023-07-27 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Mike Schwab said: *One thong that helps ImMS is that everything related to a root key isstored together, where as DB2 each segment is a separate database.* Thinging the wrong thong methinks. For starters, a DB2 database can have many tables/tablespaces. From a physical POV an IMS DB can be a si

Re: How does Chinese banks runs their IT?

2023-07-27 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I believe that many Chinese banks ran mainframe but were limited to DOS/VSE not MVS due to technology embargoes. I also heard that huge numbers were running bootleg versions, including Hercules. When I worked in Indonesia, the company I worked at (A state enterprise) ran lots of unlicensed softwa

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives

2023-07-26 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
IMS/DB vs most other databases? Having worked with IMS/DB and DC and CICS with a variety of DBMS, I'd venture that CICS offers way more flexibility. For example, I've worked in CICS shops with ADABAS, DATACOM, TOTAL, DB2, not to mention that many of the 4GL products were tailored to work in a CICS

Re: Userid schemes

2023-07-13 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
When I worked at IBM it was first letter of surname plus personnel number (5 numerics). Another site used a role based ID such as SNRDBA for Senior DBA. On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 10:31 AM Bob Bridges wrote: > One place I worked used the employee number as proof of identify when the > help desk pr

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
The slash was an or symbol. Codeset anybody? On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 8:35 AM Phil Smith III wrote: > Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > *Was it Sterling Software/Platinum?* > > Heh. Different metals, different companies-but both wound up as part of CA

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
*Can anyone remember the major DB2 player was?* *On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 8:26 AM Edward Gould <04bcc43af339-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu <04bcc43af339-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>> wrote:* *Was it Sterling Software/Platinum?* ---

Re: C DLL abend CEE3350S

2023-07-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
What compiler directives were used? On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 5:18 AM Eric Erickson wrote: > I know, but the CEESTART CSECT is included in the program object. On > another DLL, which is just 1 module with multiple functions, the CEESTART > CSECT is listed in the load map as such. > > >

Re: C DLL abend CEE3350S

2023-07-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Do you have an INCLUDE for the CEESTART module? Does LE look for an eyecatcher that it recognises as CEESTART, not just an ENTRY which as Seymour says isn't the same. Take LET off the bind in case there's another hidden problem. On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 5:18 AM Eric Erickson wrote: > I know, but

Re: DB2 install clist IRX0041I

2023-07-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
All good Bill. On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 6:39 PM Bill Giannelli wrote: > thanks for your response. > I did run DSNTIJXZ, it turns out in the first panel I was pointing to the > wrong version SMPe libraries. > thanks > Bill > > On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 12:24:05 +1000, Wayn

Re: DB2 install clist IRX0041I

2023-07-10 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Bill, Did you run the DSNTEJxZ job from SDSNSAMP. This captures your existing parameter values for use later in the installation process. Which version of DB2 are you migrating? Check this chapter: https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/db2-for-zos/12?topic=jobs-running-clist-in-interactive-mode On Tue,

Re: 0C1 abend

2023-07-01 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Check any link edit for unresolved XTRN. One of a myriad of causers. On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 4:15 AM Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Sat, 1 Jul 2023 10:22:23 -0400, Steve Smith wrote: > > >The "normal cause" is that an invalid opcode came up in the CPU

Re: Datacom/Ad upgrade 15.1

2023-06-20 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
It is shipped with z/os serverpac. Depends on your installation. Perhaps CPAC prefix library contains it if it wasn't copied to your active linklist. On Wed, Jun 21, 2023, 03:24 Sathish Kumar wrote: > Hi, > > Am upgrading Datacom/AD 15.1 while running the installation job Axcus00 > it's amended

Re: z/OS Authorized Code Scanner Webcast

2023-06-07 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I should move back to Perth, it's the same time as Singapore :( On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 12:49 PM Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > From anywhere in the world, I just Google "time in someplace". Look at > your local time and work from there. Just be careful when daylight saving >

Re: z/OS Authorized Code Scanner Webcast

2023-06-07 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
>From anywhere in the world, I just Google "time in someplace". Look at your local time and work from there. Just be careful when daylight saving starts/ends. Australia has a 3 hour time diff from Singapore, except when it doesn't, such as now because we went back an hour for winter :) On Wed, Jun

Re: SMP/E JCLIN processing for job updates

2023-04-21 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
e SCLM now in ISPF. I wasnt aware of it. > Is the IBM online doc good enough for a SCLM newbie? > thanks > Bill > On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 06:48:00 -0500, Bill Giannelli < > billgianne...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >hi wayne, > >what is SCLM? > >On Fri, 21 Ap

Re: SMP/E JCLIN processing for job updates

2023-04-21 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I would use SCLM if you don't have another source management tool. On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 9:37 PM Bill Giannelli wrote: > Do many of you out there use SMP/E JCLIN processing to track and save job > updates? > Currently we do not make use of this and manually keep JCL up to date. > It seems ther

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Charles, Correct it is VENDOR.PROCLIB. USER.PROCLIB was on our old ADCD back in the old FLEX days. We implemented some automation on Dallas to clean up spool (OTTO from the CBTTAPE). We also paid for a lot of additional disk space so we could extend JES spool. On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 1:34 AM Cha

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-10 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I've used the Dallas systems. You are free to customize. IBM provide USER.PROCLIB etc. It allows you to add your custom routines which can allow such things as MSGCLASS=Z et al. On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 2:10 PM Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Mon, 10 Ap

Re: Cobol calling module with non alphanumeric no longer allowed???

2023-04-09 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I can see a point whereby you wouldn't use interactive RDO to define resources. We used a change control system to implement CICS resources via batch jobs running DFHCSDUP utility. It gives a better audit trail than using the CEDA transaction. We also used a separate CSD for 14 CICS regions and ro

Re: ssid not recognized after erly code update

2023-04-09 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Bill, Read this: https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/db2-for-zos/12?topic=delivery-updating-db2-initialization-parameters-function-level-activation On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 8:45 PM Bill Giannelli wrote: > I updated DB2 ERLY code dataset SDSNLINK, now the SSID is not recognized. > Have IPLd and refresh

Re: ssid not recognized after erly code update

2023-04-09 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Bill, Check the DSNTIJUZ member from your installation. This should show you what subsystem was created in ZPARMS. Perhaps you have dropped your custom module. On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 8:45 PM Bill Giannelli wrote: > I updated DB2 ERLY code dataset SDSNLINK, now the SSID is not recognized. > Hav

Re: Subject: Re: Currency format suggestions, please?

2023-04-02 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Growing up in the 50's people could only fantasise about billions and millions. These numbers just seemed far far from reality. A good friend of mine boasted to me that his Dad was "a thousandaire". I was impressed. On Sun, Apr 2, 2023 at 10:35 PM Rupert Reynolds wrote: > Oh yes. Only slightly

Re: Stop the ragging on COBOL please [was: RE: ASM call by value]

2023-03-29 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I also like CA-IDEAL. A little bit PL/I like with a nice SELECT statement: Example: SELECT TRANS_CODE WHEN 'A' DO ADD_RECORD_PROC WHEN 'D' DO DEL_RECORD_PROC WHEN 'P' DO PURCHASE_PROC WHEN 'R' DO RECEIPT_PROC WHEN ANY DO LOG_TRANS WHEN OTHER DO INVALID_CODE ENDSEL On Thu, Mar 30

Re: Fascinating Interview with Steve Jobs [non-mainframe]

2023-03-29 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Very interesting if one-sided interview. He gives Steve Wozniak very little credit although Woz really was the inventor and Jobs the salesman in the partnership. I read Sculley's autobiography many years ago (From Pepsi to Apple). It doesn't describe events quite the same way. Nevertheless, good

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