More z/OS and LinuxONE on IBM Cloud, Including On-Demand z/OS

2022-02-14 Thread Timothy Sipples
IBM is announcing the upcoming availability of new and improved "on-demand" IBM Z and IBM LinuxONE operating system instances. Here are the highlights as I see them IBM Wazi-as-a-Service will provide z/OS instances running on IBM Cloud. Yes, you'll be able to get your very own z/OS instance

Re: z/OS file level encryption for Nacha Requirements

2022-02-14 Thread Timothy Sipples
Jerry, to add to Lennie's comments 1. The best z/OS 2.1 was/is able to do is to tolerate z/OS Data Set Encryption, i.e. to read and write to the types of encrypted data sets that z/OS 2.2 supports. But z/OS 2.1 cannot create new encrypted data sets. That's assuming you install the appropria

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I try very hard to reserve some weekend time (when not on a necessary weekend work task) just for me, and my family understands that my "self-education time" needs to be factored in with other family priorities. Obvious family necessaries like food shopping, home repairs and normal maintenance,

Re: Definition of z/OS SYSRES volume

2022-02-14 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Matt. You said: "... contains configuration information about the system being started. ..." The PARMLIB concatenation and IODF do not have to be on the SYSRES. Your statement is therefore incorrect. Regards, David On 2022-02-14 20:12, Matt Hogstrom wrote: It depends on the background of t

Re: Definition of z/OS SYSRES volume

2022-02-14 Thread Matt Hogstrom
It depends on the background of the new Systems Programmers. I’d keep it simple and say its the volume(s) which the system is started from and contains configuration information about the system being started. I would relate terms like Initial Program Load to a process like Grub which bootst

Re: Definition of z/OS SYSRES volume

2022-02-14 Thread Mike Schwab
In Linux terms? The Kernel Boot directory. On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 11:38 PM Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw <032fff1be9b4-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > I think the sysres is the volume on the device address specified as the IPL > device. > Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw > https://rsclweb.com > 'Da

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Doug
Good point Peter, Many of ‘us’ enjoy learning new everything but keeping the wheels on the bus and day to day stuff keep us busy 50 hours per day. Learning time is very limited. Cheers . On Feb 14, 2022, at 16:17, David Crayford wrote: It depends on the team. My comments reflect my experien

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Alan Young
Other tech news has started to pick up on this.   https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/02/ibm-exec-called-older-workers-dinobabies-who-should-go-extinct-lawsuit-says/   https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/14/ibm_age_discrimination_court_documents/   -Original Message- From: IBM Mainfram

Re: Definition of z/OS SYSRES volume

2022-02-14 Thread Michael Watkins
Perhaps 'z/OS system installation and maintenance', P.9, is sufficient: "The z/OS software- as supplied by IBM- is usually installed on a series of disk volumes known as the system residence volumes (SYSRES). Much of the flexibility of z/OS is built on these SYSRES sets. They make it possible to

Re: Definition of z/OS SYSRES volume

2022-02-14 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
I think the sysres is the volume on the device address specified as the IPL device. Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw https://rsclweb.com 'Dance like no one is watching. Encrypt like everyone is.' -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of PINION, RICHARD W. Sent: 14 Februa

Re: Definition of z/OS SYSRES volume

2022-02-14 Thread Charles Mills
Pretty easy if you ask me. The volume from which the operating system was loaded. (Or at least the key part of the operating system, the nucleus and such.) SYSRES = System Residence volume, the volume on which the [operating] system resides. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainfram

Re: Definition of z/OS SYSRES volume

2022-02-14 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
I was giving a short SMP/E class to our two new sysprogs. I kept talking about the "res volume or sysres". I started to explain it. But, I decided to get a more formal definition. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Brennan Sent: Monday, February

Re: Definition of z/OS SYSRES volume

2022-02-14 Thread Tom Brennan
C drive ? / directory ? ICKDSF ? On 2/14/2022 1:19 PM, PINION, RICHARD W. wrote: I did a little online searching. But, I didn't see anything that helped. How would you define the "SYSRES volume"? I want to give a good definition to new system programmers. Confidentiality notice: This e-mail

Re: Definition of z/OS SYSRES volume

2022-02-14 Thread Rahim Azizarab
SYSRES generally refers to the IPL Volume, so it maybe fair to assume that you are asking how to create a rescue volume, or an ipl-able DASD.  There are some examples for OS390 on cbttapes.org in File 164, but I was able to only get the new volume ipl and start JES2.  I have not been able to get

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread patrickfalcone7
Go Bob go. I use to believe I would be retired by now, I'm 60+. I got to this point and I like the continuing challenges. I dont want to necessarily retire, maybe lessen the load a bit. This has been my life and I want to stay active as long as I can contribute productively. Personally, I think

Re: Definition of z/OS SYSRES volume

2022-02-14 Thread Mark Jacobs
It's the volume whose UCB address is in the load profile for the LPAR on the HMC. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com --- Original Message --- On Monday, February

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Cameron Conacher
That is inspiring. I like what I do. I hope to work as long as I want to. I sometimes wonder what I could possibly be doing, if I was not in IT. I think I would become a waiter. I would sit all day and wait….. Thanks, …….Cameron From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Crayfo

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread David Crayford
On 15/2/22 5:19 am, Matt Hogstrom wrote: there is always RetroComputing as well … they love nostalgic questions That's awesome! The perfect space :) https://stackoverflow.com/ https://superuser.com/ https://serverfault.com/

Definition of z/OS SYSRES volume

2022-02-14 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
I did a little online searching. But, I didn't see anything that helped. How would you define the "SYSRES volume"? I want to give a good definition to new system programmers. Confidentiality notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged and/or confiden

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Matt Hogstrom
there is always RetroComputing as well … they love nostalgic questions https://stackoverflow.com/ https://superuser.com/ https://serverfault.com/ https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread David Crayford
It depends on the team. My comments reflect my experience with my colleagues in locale. They readily admit they prefer the status quo so it's not a criticism. Case in point - we had to move to Git as it's company policy. A lot of other products took the leap and moved their code to the file sy

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread David Crayford
On 15/2/22 4:53 am, Richards, Robert B. (CTR) wrote: some of our guys will go on until 70 Some of us are past that! (Going on for 80!!!) 😊 You're not the only one! One of our testers is 81 and still delivering exceptional results. He has no plans to retire and we don't want him to. -O

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread David Crayford
On 15/2/22 4:31 am, Matt Hogstrom wrote: I’d suggest / welcome others to join StackOverflow, SuperUser and ServerFault. The tags you are most interested in would be [mainframe,zos,cobol,db2] Server fault also to a lesser extent. StackOverflow is more of a programming site and SuperUser is

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
> some of our guys will go on until 70 Some of us are past that! (Going on for 80!!!) 😊 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 3:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Holy Moly ... You make some good

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I have to disagree with you on this point: "While it's certainly not impossible, it's certainly very difficult to retrain a HLASM programmer to Java, Python, Javascript etc. It's not because they're not smart enough, they just don't want to." Maybe I am an exception (though I tend to doubt it)

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: Log4j hearing: 'Open source is not the problem'

2022-02-14 Thread Dave Barry
I'm old enough to remember reading the source code for VM on microfiche. Eventually, IBM got smart and went with OCO. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu wi

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Matt Hogstrom
I’d suggest / welcome others to join StackOverflow, SuperUser and ServerFault. The tags you are most interested in would be [mainframe,zos,cobol,db2] Server fault also to a lesser extent. StackOverflow is more of a programming site and SuperUser is more system administration. Server Fault

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread David Crayford
You make some good points in this post. None of us on this forum are getting any younger and IBM-MAIN doesn't seem to attract young people who prefer platforms like Stack Overflow or Slack workspaces. It may be an unpopular opinion, but it's important to concentrate on millenials now. A large p

Re: Fwd: Log4j hearing: 'Open source is not the problem'

2022-02-14 Thread David Crayford
On 15/2/22 3:48 am, Phil Smith III wrote: While clearly closed source is no more likely to be randomly secure than open source, the fact that the source is available for open source (by definition!) does perhaps change the equation a bit. The question I have ZERO data to answer is: If a hacker

Fwd: Log4j hearing: 'Open source is not the problem'

2022-02-14 Thread Phil Smith III
While clearly closed source is no more likely to be randomly secure than open source, the fact that the source is available for open source (by definition!) does perhaps change the equation a bit. The question I have ZERO data to answer is: Are more vulnerabilities found by attacking the execut

Re: Where is the DFPISMKD utility to run the DFPMKDIR EXEC?

2022-02-14 Thread Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
Barb, Just to confirm, we are talking about UJ05471, correct? Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Barbara Nitz Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 12:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Where is the DFPISMKD utility to run the DFPMKDIR EXEC?

Re: ICSF - crypto # to PCHID relationship

2022-02-14 Thread Eric D Rossman
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote on 02/11/2022 at 06:21 AM: > Every CryptoExpress engine has two identifiers: PCHID and number used in > ICSF panels. > Both identifiers can be seen in SE. > PCHID number is not available in ICSF (why???) > > However I'm wondering how the crypto numbers are assigned. > PC

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
I never saw that attributed to Mark Twain before. I have seen it attributed to both Oscar Wilde and George Bernard Shaw. Perhaps the corollary is useful too. "Youth is wasted on the young and wisdom wasted on the old.". Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw https://rsclweb.com ‘Dance like no one is watching.

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Too bad that youth is wasted on the young — Mark Twain m...@hogstrom.org +1-919-656-0564 “To achieve great things two things are needed: a plan, and not quite enough time.” - Leonard Bernstein > On Feb 14, 2022, at 6:11 AM, Joe Monk wrote: > > https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/12/business/econo

Re: z/OS file level encryption for Nacha Requirements

2022-02-14 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Jerry, You have covered the basic technical stuff. The difficult and crucial part is how you are going to manage your encryption keys. You will need to think about the level of granularity for your keys; which applications have which keys. You will need to determine if you want separate keys f

Re: VSMLIST question

2022-02-14 Thread Joseph Reichman
So the allocated storage would be whitin 51000 bytes meaning the range of storage is 7FF9C000 - 7FFED000 and the ALLOC starts at 7FFEC1D8 do I have it right ? > On Feb 14, 2022, at 10:12 AM, Harris Morgenstern wrote: > > From MVS Authorized Assembler Services Ref: > > ,SPACE=ALLOC > ,SPACE

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Matt Hogstrom
The challenge there is IBM, like Disney with regard to their classics in the vault, didn’t see the value on using that tech to expand markets, they wanted to “keep” is and lots the market. Micro-channel anyone ? It’s not just IBM, its the Innovator’s Dilemma. Matt Hogstrom m...@hogstrom.org

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Interesting … too bad I don’t subscribe to the NYT, sounds like a good read. Between the lines it sounds like the next generation of IBMers are woke and are willing to discard those that have years of value. Probably no different than in years past for many companies. Matt Hogstrom m...@hogst

VSMLIST question

2022-02-14 Thread Harris Morgenstern
>From MVS Authorized Assembler Services Ref: ,SPACE=ALLOC ,SPACE=FREE ,SPACE=UNALLOC Specifies whether allocated, allocated and free, or unallocated storage is to be reported. ALLOC indicates that the virtual addresses and lengths of blocks of storage allocated to the specific area are to be lis

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Bob Bridges
Ah, "more expensive" vs "less expensive", now that IS capitalism -- and perfectly rational, if one balances cost and benefit. I mean, if you get rid of your experienced and competent more-expensive workers and keep your less experience but incompetent ones, you may find yourself regretting the

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Bob Bridges
Yep. Although I wouldn't blame this on capitalism per se, just humans. When you read some of those emails -- that crack about "dinobabies", for example -- it isn't necessary to think this represents the view of IBM generally. All those documents prove is that youngsters wrote them. And there

Re: Where is the DFPISMKD utility to run the DFPMKDIR EXEC?

2022-02-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
Possibly the ACTION hold was last minute. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 9:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Where is the DFPISMKD utility to run the DFPMKDIR EXEC? I want to

Re: Where is the DFPISMKD utility to run the DFPMKDIR EXEC?

2022-02-14 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I want to agree with Barb, the PTF for my 2.3 system had PRE APPLY action to run the "UTILITY" Pointing to a SMPTLIB that never gets created, I did found the 'UTILITY' in SYS1.SAMPLIB, so this left me scratching my head and wondering. As I mentioned, I opted to perform the actions by hand, bu

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread René Jansen
It is not so much about capitalism as it is about respectful use of language to describe groups of people. https://features.propublica.org/ibm/ibm-age-discrimination-american-workers/ shows that the problem is not ex

Re: TADz and SMF

2022-02-14 Thread Steve Beaver
I know that the offending job is and it will not be run again until I can figure out What and why -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Andreas von Imhof Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 2:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.ED

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Bill Johnson
Then there was no need for the 1967 age discrimination law! LOL I’m not confusing anything. This article is a continuation of the age discrimination lawsuit filed by IBM employees in 2018. Most companies do it to maximize profits since profits make the stock price go up and the executives and s

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
You're confusing cash flow with profits. Unless there are external constraints, wages don't increase by themselves. The natural behavior in capitalism is to not give raises unless it would cost you more for the employee to leave.. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 _

z/OS file level encryption for Nacha Requirements

2022-02-14 Thread Edgington, Jerry
Hello all, We are looking at setting up z/OS file level encryption. We have 2 Data Centers, both running z15s, with 2 CryptoCards each, one running z/OS v2.1, with IMS v13 and the other running z/OS v2.3 with only VSAM. I am not an Encryption expert, but my question is, what the steps necessa

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Bill Johnson
Profits are maximized by getting rid of the older, higher cost (wages & health care) employees and hiring younger lower cost ones. Pretty standard capitalism. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, February 14, 2022, 8:05 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: No, capitalism is designed to maximize p

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
No, capitalism is designed to maximize profits. Out of control speculation has shifted the emphasis to cash flow, which would have appalled Adam Smith. What happens in a rational market is that employees don't give raises unless there is a labor shortage, and that employers try to keep productiv

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Kirk Wolf
I wonder if "dinobabies" is trademarked? ibm-main is pretty nondescript. ;-) On Mon, Feb 14, 2022, at 6:11 AM, Joe Monk wrote: > https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/12/business/economy/ibm-age-discrimination.html > > "Another email by a top executive, appearing to refer to older workers, > mentions

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
I didn't see any comments that looked out of line. Could you quote what you're referring to? Thanks. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Steve Horein [steve

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Bill Johnson
I didn’t say YOU pushed them out the door. The cycle of replacing higher priced workers with lower cost ones always happens. Exactly what capitalism is designed to do. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, February 14, 2022, 7:55 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: When I was young, I worked wit

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
When I was young, I worked with older employees; I did not push them out the door. Further, there are legal limits on age discrimination. What we are seeing is the triumph of cash flow over profits, and it is not what capitalism does in a rational environment, any more than the gulag is what soc

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Bill Johnson
When we were young, we helped usher out older workers & we didn’t really think or care about it. Now that it’s our turn in the ageist barrel, we are shocked & dismayed. As Steve said, not really surprising. This is exactly what capitalism does.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, Feb

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Steve Horein
Not really surprising, but I did not see much empathy for those older employees (or IBM in general) in the comments of this topic on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/srq7im/ibm_executives_called_older_workers_dinobabies/ On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 5:12 AM Joe Monk wrote: > > htt

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Colin Paice
Ahh the ignorance of youth. I remember someone enthusiastically explaining to me about VMWARE and how they could run different windows images on the same hardware at the same time. I said "that was old technology on the vm/360 systems in 1977 when I joined IBM". *"Those that fail to learn from his

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
"Every generation thinks that it invented sex." There are plenty of flexible older workers and inflexible younger workers. I wonder whether they will wind up hiring hordes of "young fogies" and be puzzled by the inevitable consequences. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread René Jansen
It’s that it is now documented and in the newspapers - but is anybody really surprised? Of course it is a disgrace that people who were using VNET and fora when current management sh*t their diapers are now accused of ’not understanding social’. It perfectly jibes with that irrational attack o

Re: Coding IF statement in BPXBATCH shell

2022-02-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
Of course, and a lot of shops understand the benefits. But at some shops procurement is a nightmare, as is getting bills paid on time. I'd be very surprised if you don't have some problem customers. That said, I've also been at shops that allow me to install free software, allow me to purchase

Re: INITSQA under VM

2022-02-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
How much of the IODF-related storage is SQA versus ESQA? Did the OP really mean SQA ie was it actually ESQA that was short? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf

Holy Moly ...

2022-02-14 Thread Joe Monk
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/12/business/economy/ibm-age-discrimination.html "Another email by a top executive, appearing to refer to older workers, mentions a plan to “accelerate change by inviting the ‘dinobabies’ (new species) to leave” and make them an “extinct species.” A third email refe

Re: AMASPZAP DUMPT and program objects

2022-02-14 Thread Mario Bezzi
Thanks Colin, that's a very wise suggestion! I used the #pragma csect pragma with METAL-C but then I forgot about it, and yes, in my specific case it makes the trick. I wonder what if you need to zap a program object provided by others though, where recompiling is not an option. Thanks to all

Re: TADz and SMF

2022-02-14 Thread Andreas von Imhof
Turning it off in SMFPRMxx is like putting your head in the sand. Turn it off in the application, just take a look at the install manual. These kind of "new" applications from IBM can burn a lot of CPU in generating those SMF records. For example we have IBM's Information Broker. Someone turned o