I have to disagree with you on this point:

"While it's certainly not impossible, it's certainly very difficult to retrain 
a HLASM programmer to Java, Python, Javascript etc. It's not because they're 
not smart enough, they just don't want to."

Maybe I am an exception (though I tend to doubt it) but I thoroughly enjoy 
learning about new technologies, and I have been in the mainframe programming 
business since 1968 (at IBM as a co-op student worker in college).

Lately I have been doing quite a lot of python and bash shell programming 
solving "challenges" on IBM's zXplore site and having a great time learning a 
bunch of new (to me) stuff.

I believe that there are a great deal more folk "out here" that would enjoy 
learning "new stuff" if only they were given the opportunity to do so.

YMMV of course, but I wanted to make the point that not ALL "old timers" are 
technophobes of the "new stuff".

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
David Crayford
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 3:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Holy Moly ...

You make some good points in this post. None of us on this forum are getting 
any younger and IBM-MAIN doesn't seem to attract young people who prefer 
platforms like Stack Overflow or Slack workspaces. It may be an unpopular 
opinion, but it's important to concentrate on millenials now. A large 
percentage of developers in my location are in their 60s and close to 
retirement. It's not easy to train young people to back-fill as our legacy 
products are written in HLASM and require deep technical knowledge of MVS 
subsystems. It's optimistic to speculate that it will take 5 years to bring 
somebody up to speed when it's probably more like 10. We hope that now we are 
all working from home that some of our guys will go on until 70. We are also 
modernizing our products and for that we need young guys. While it's certainly 
not impossible, it's certainly very difficult to retrain a HLASM programmer to 
Java, Python, Javascript etc. It's not because they're not smart enough, they 
just don't want to.
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