Re: ISF.CONNECT.*

2018-07-04 Thread Barbara Nitz
I am curious: Why is Rocket Software defending missing SDSF actions and bad documentation??? Has IBM 'outsourced' the SDSFAUX server? I am annoyed with the ISFTABL thing (which we addressed in our logon procedure), too, because that message was irritating all of us. The ISF.CONNECT thing is muc

AW: Re: Function in SDSF to list Dynamic Exits

2018-07-04 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>Many require additional SAF authorization to run even though they appear on >the user's menu. I would prefer that they not appear at all if not authorized, >but that's grist for RFE Land. Is it? I thought it was part of SDSF customization to let different groups see different sets of functio

Re: REXX as JCL replacement

2018-07-04 Thread zMan
> > >What would it take for IBM to allocate just a couple of people to make it > available as a supported product? > Having someone left in POK who knows how to code. Not sure there's anyone left... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / si

Re: REXX as JCL replacement

2018-07-04 Thread Clem Clarke
Thank you Charles. I think you will find this site has much more information. http://start.oscar-jol.com/ And indeed, it was a language written specifically to replace JCL and was used by some of the largest companies in the world for decades. The JCL problem is basically unchanged after de

Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-04 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Many years ago when CMOS machines (9672) first came on the scene, individual CPs were a lot slower--by 3x--than the bipolar CPs they were replacing. Not a big issue for transactional processes like CICS, but batch suffered because of long standing jobs that suddenly were getting S322 abends doin

Re: Function in SDSF to list Dynamic Exits

2018-07-04 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
For those who have not yet come face to face with the latest SDSF (2.3), here's the current menu of available functions. Many require additional SAF authorization to run even though they appear on the user's menu. I would prefer that they not appear at all if not authorized, but that's grist for

Primary & secondary space values in DFSORT's dynamic work space allocation.

2018-07-04 Thread Peter Hunkeler
Some background, first. I was asked to help a COBOL application calling DFSORT internally via INPUT / OUTPUT PRODECURE (E15/E35) interface. The input data size is unknown, but varying greatly. FILESZ cannot be supplied. So, DFSORT has no way to calculate the required disk work space. The appl

Re: SUSE splits from Microfocus

2018-07-04 Thread Phil Smith III
Rob Schramm wrote: >Does that include HPE mainframe consulting? I think that the old HP did >contracts for Mainframe work. Yes, EDS/HP Global Services/HPE Services/(now) DXC do mainframe outsourcing and consulting. Definitely not part of HPE any more! As an HPE software division with mai

IBM i as JCL replacement (was: Rexx as JCL replacement)

2018-07-04 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On 7/4/2018 11:00 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: JCL has numerous restrictions and inconsistencies due to antiquity, IBM i supports Cobol. Come on down :) -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.com/~jax # thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating

Function in SDSF to list Dynamic Exits

2018-07-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
I just stumbled across this a z/OS V2.1 - Just in case anyone else is having to work with z/OS Dynamic Exits In SDSF there is a new function/PanelDYNX - I found it to be very helpful Lizette Koehler statistics: A precise and logical method for stating a half-truth inaccurately ---

Re: ISF.CONNECT.*

2018-07-04 Thread Tom Conley
On 7/4/2018 12:13 PM, Rob Scott wrote: For the record, you do not need ISFTABL to be allocated for SDSF to function and, in fact, I run without ISFTABL on many of the systems that I use. If ISFTABL is not found, SDSF retrieves and stores system commands in the ISPF profile dataset and in this

Re: SUSE splits from Microfocus

2018-07-04 Thread Rob Schramm
Does that include HPE mainframe consulting? I think that the old HP did contracts for Mainframe work. Rob Schramm On Wed, Jul 4, 2018, 11:54 AM Phil Smith III wrote: > David W Noon wrote: > > > Last I heard, HPE was still running some big iron to support "legacy" > > applications. > > > > Pos

Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-04 Thread Joel C. Ewing
When total CPU time used by the address space is the issue, that can be handled using an IEFUTL exit, setting a default JOB TIME parameter by job class in JES2, and overriding that with TIME parameters on the JOB and EXEC statements as appropriate.  The IEFUTL exit can be written to either cancel t

Re: REXX as JCL replacement

2018-07-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 11:21:27 -0500, Joel C. Ewing wrote: >On 07/04/2018 02:53 AM, Ward Able, Grant wrote: >> I seldom post here, but have been intrigued by this thread. >> >> What are the problems (perceived or real) that will be resolved by replacing >> JCL with REXX? >> JCL has numerous restrict

Re: AW: Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-04 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 07/04/2018 06:46 AM, Peter Hunkeler wrote: >> But if you specify the desired time on the job statement (the OP said 30 > min?), IEFUTL would get called and could take the desired action (extend for > another 30 after generating some console message?). > > > > > I stand corrected. I had in min

Re: REXX as JCL replacement

2018-07-04 Thread Charles Mills
> or someone would produced an alternative by now Not touting it -- I know nada about it, nor am I on the front lines of dealing with production JCL -- but someone has, right? That JOL product that pops up here from time to time. https://sites.google.com/site/clarkecomputersoftware/oscar_jol_de

Re: ISF.CONNECT.*

2018-07-04 Thread Rob Scott
Tom, I think the "ISF.CONNECT.system" issue should have been a migration action and I will see if I can get the documentation updated. Rob Scott Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Conley Sent: Wednesd

Re: REXX as JCL replacement

2018-07-04 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 07/04/2018 02:53 AM, Ward Able, Grant wrote: > I seldom post here, but have been intrigued by this thread. > > What are the problems (perceived or real) that will be resolved by replacing > JCL with REXX? > > > > Regards – Grant. > > In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice

Re: ISF.CONNECT.*

2018-07-04 Thread Rob Scott
For the record, you do not need ISFTABL to be allocated for SDSF to function and, in fact, I run without ISFTABL on many of the systems that I use. If ISFTABL is not found, SDSF retrieves and stores system commands in the ISPF profile dataset and in this mode the user can store up to 50 commands

Re: ISF.CONNECT.*

2018-07-04 Thread Tom Conley
On 7/4/2018 11:23 AM, Rob Scott wrote: Tom, I think "cheated" is a bit strong. If migration actions were omitted it was not by design or with intention to deceive, it was most likely because it got missed due to human error. Rob Scott Rocket Software. Rob, When I asked why the ISFTABL mes

Re: SUSE splits from Microfocus

2018-07-04 Thread Phil Smith III
David W Noon wrote: > Last I heard, HPE was still running some big iron to support "legacy" > applications. Possibly, but I suspect those went with the ex-EDS folks. The internal stuff (not that I've seen it other than as an end-user) seems to be all Microsoft-based.

Re: ISF.CONNECT.*

2018-07-04 Thread Rob Scott
Tom, I think "cheated" is a bit strong. If migration actions were omitted it was not by design or with intention to deceive, it was most likely because it got missed due to human error. Rob Scott Rocket Software. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@L

Re: ISF.CONNECT.*

2018-07-04 Thread Tom Conley
On 7/4/2018 6:38 AM, Rob Scott wrote: Barbara, From the SDSF z/OS 2.3 Operation and Customization Guide : "As of z/OS V2R3, SDSF requires the SDSF and SDSFAUX address spaces to be active for full functionality. The SDSF address space manages connections, processes ISFPRMxx statements, handles

Re: SUSE splits from Microfocus

2018-07-04 Thread David W Noon
On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 21:02:41 -0400, Phil Smith Iii (li...@akphs.com) wrote about "Re: SUSE splits from Microfocus" (in <00a201d41332$b65763a0$23062ae0$@akphs.com>): > David W Noon wrote: [snip] >> A lot of the old EDS mainframers were made redundant because HP felt the >> mainframe was dead. The ma

Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-04 Thread Roger Lowe
On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 03:24:00 -0500, Vince Getgood wrote: >Saurabh, >How much is your management willing to spend on achieving this requirement? > >From the few posts that I've seen, I'd suggest no-one here does this now, or >has ever done it. If a company wants to monitor it's mainframe resource

AW: Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-04 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>But if you specify the desired time on the job statement (the OP said 30 min?), IEFUTL would get called and could take the desired action (extend for another 30 after generating some console message?). I stand corrected. I had in mind he wanted an alert when some address space consumes more t

Re: Spool volume conversion

2018-07-04 Thread Vinoth M
That’s fine and Thanks Liz for your comments. On Wednesday, July 4, 2018, Lizette Koehler wrote: > Depending on your windows for IPL > > My favorite way is to > >1) Add the new MOD54 and DRAIN the MOD9 >2) IPL the system so that any STC/TSU are moved to the MOD54 >3) Purge/route/O

Re: ISF.CONNECT.*

2018-07-04 Thread Rob Scott
Barbara, From the SDSF z/OS 2.3 Operation and Customization Guide : "As of z/OS V2R3, SDSF requires the SDSF and SDSFAUX address spaces to be active for full functionality. The SDSF address space manages connections, processes ISFPRMxx statements, handles operator commands, and starts and stops S

ISF.CONNECT.*

2018-07-04 Thread Barbara Nitz
Something has changed with SDSFAUX between z/OS 2.1 and z/OS 2.3. Under z/OS 2.3, each and every user gets a RACF Message when they access their part of SDSF (that's the primary RACF panel). That missing right is for ISF.CONNECT.system, which is described as access to SDSFAUX. None of those use

Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-04 Thread Vince Getgood
Saurabh, How much is your management willing to spend on achieving this requirement? From the few posts that I've seen, I'd suggest no-one here does this now, or has ever done it. If a company wants to monitor it's mainframe resource usage dynamically, it buys and impliments a product. (BMC Mai

Re: REXX as JCL replacement

2018-07-04 Thread Ward Able, Grant
I seldom post here, but have been intrigued by this thread. What are the problems (perceived or real) that will be resolved by replacing JCL with REXX? Regards – Grant. In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. There is no such thing as the Cloud.