Re: [hibernate-dev] "Stale" Hibernate issues

2014-04-07 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Please bear with me, it's 1:45am and someone on the internet is wrong :-). Somehow this triggered a knee-jerk reaction to an issue that is rather minor, hasn't bothered me in months (every now and then I come across the comment in our source code that references this particular hibernate issue, an

Re: [hibernate-dev] "Stale" Hibernate issues

2014-04-07 Thread Sanne Grinovero
Good points, we definitely need to make it easier to contribute, be it just a least resistance path for making a test. For what it's worth, when I started contributing more seriosly, the "tipping point" which transformed me from an average user to a fanatical contributor, was to understand how the

Re: [hibernate-dev] "Stale" Hibernate issues

2014-04-07 Thread Brett Meyer
But Martijn, you're still missing my main points. "...awaiting a response from the core team..." "...without any evidence of a core member looking at the issue..." "...your users..." You're still thinking of this community in a proprietary product sense. It's not. The core team is small and fo

Re: [hibernate-dev] "Stale" Hibernate issues

2014-04-07 Thread Brett Meyer
Hi Martijn, I'm CC'ing the mailing list -- there are a few misconceptions I'd like to clear up for everyone. First and foremost, statements like "But nobody from the Hibernate has ever taken a look" are frankly frustrating. Hibernate is an open source project, not a proprietary product with se